Official Server rules discussion thread

[Travelsonic]

. It's when theres a clusterfuck of humans all at their spawn, that they can't even get out when I start telling people to stop.

EXACTLY what I was talking about - this specific circumstance, that is - and as I mentioned before, not just infected hospital, but a slew of maps including but not limited to castle age, abandoned facility, to a much lesser extend checkpoint, and of course our favorite troll map it seems, trainterminal. 

I lately have been playing ZS when you, and others I regularly encounter, are NOT online, and without people like you, whom are serious about, people don't listen - and because of that, the aforementioned circumstance does not cease when asked.  Ugh.

[Deathie]

I lately have been playing ZS when you, and others I regularly encounter, are NOT online

It also has to be accounted for the fact I'm a VIP, and a lot of people shape up when theres one around.

One person in particular causes a lot of trouble when I'm not online, but when I'm playing with him, he kisses ass. Giving me his tier x weapons, letting me get HP when he obviously needs it more,

then I see valid reports on him for arbitrary things that I'd normally kick/ban for.

Although I'm not saying any names, most of the regular zs players might know who I'm talking about.

[Prox]

Nid add standing on ammo boxes to prevent others from getting ammo.

Happens quite a bit.

People just spam their use keys on them so it isn't matter whether someone is standing or not, besides you can easily push them off and I have never though that this blocking thing is that much of a problem that I would ever need to kick for it.

@Prox/Travelsonic

I have been warning for spawn camping on specific maps like infected hospital. By spawn camping, I mean theres only one exit for zombies, and theres a large distance (such as a hallway) between the humans and the zombies.

If one or two humans run up to zomb spawn, then thats their problem. It's when theres a clusterfuck of humans all at their spawn, that they can't even get out when I start telling people to stop.

Thankfully, people listen. I've never had to kick for it.

Just to clarify, infected hospital has 2 zombie spawn exits...

... and my point on the spawn camp still remains the same.

[Deathie]

Just to clarify, infected hospital has 2 zombie spawn exits...

Can normal zombies get out from the other exit?
Can posion zombies get out from the other exit?
Can chem zombies get out from the other exit?

Headcrabs can't even lunge out of there, only fasties.

[Prox]

Headcrabs can't even lunge out of there, only fasties.

I'm pretty sure that fast headcrabs can.

[Deathie]

I'm pretty sure that fast headcrabs can.

You're deflecting the issue at hand.

[Prox]

I was just pointing it out.
Also I don't see why do I have to repeat what I have already said in my previous posts before.

[Deathie]

Also I don't see why do I have to repeat what I have already said in my previous posts before.

I don't either.

All I know is that the servers are all about fun,
and it's not fun for anybody if people continually spawn camp the way they do.

[Prox]

I don't either.

All I know is that the servers are all about fun,
and it's not fun for anybody if people continually spawn camp the way they do.

It's not fun for most of the people when they become a zombie, that annoys people just as much as spawn camp in my opinion, well in most cases.
 
Also I only agree with that one when the map is infected_hospital, that's the only map that I recall where spawn camp might get really annoying however zombies still win most of the time, well maybe its 50/50 but they still have quite a lot of chances if they dont just rage quit after the first two waves in that map and it's getting picked very rarely anyways since it's not on the vote list every time.

[Travelsonic]

It's not fun for most of the people when they become a zombie, that annoys people just as much as spawn camp in my opinion, well in most cases.
 
Also I only agree with that one when the map is infected_hospital, that's the only map that I recall where spawn camp might get really annoying however zombies still win most of the time, well maybe its 50/50 but they still have quite a lot of chances if they dont just rage quit after the first two waves in that map and it's getting picked very rarely anyways since it's not on the vote list every time.

But, as I mentioned before, infected_hospital is NOT the only map with this issue... and even so, who cares really that zombies win *in the end* if it is so bad at the beginning that people are easily disuaded?

[Prox]

But, as I mentioned before, infected_hospital is NOT the only map with this issue... and even so, who cares really that zombies win *in the end* if it is so bad at the beginning that people are easily disuaded?

...
I have already said that spawn camp happens pretty much on every map. It only gets that bad at infected_hospital...
Also I do not believe that spawn camp get's that bad on any other map unless it's an extraordinary situation or I'm just forgetting some maps.

who cares really that zombies win *in the end*

I don't think that I have said that.

[memo3300]

wait are you guys trying to stop spawn camping?

lol better code something that hurts you when you shot zombies in their spawn or something like that because i don't belive a VIP could handle a situation were 27 guys are all over the spawn killing zombies 1 second after they spawn *and everyone refuses to stop it since they think it is fair or something like that.


maybe it wont happen, but if it does, a VIP couldn't handle it.

[Hotgreensoldier]

Last I checked, this is how spawning for zombies works:

Zombies spawn, they have invulnerability and 2x speed for 3 seconds. Humans maul regular zombies while fast zombies manage to get a few hits on them. Fast zombies coordinate attacks and gang bang people 1 at a time, humans start to A. Retreat B. Stay but start losing a lot of people.

Zombies have invincibility for first 3 seconds after spawning except when it's the start of a new wave...Fast zombies can deal a bit of damage in that little time span using the invul/2x speed....

But if it's cading the spawn or "cock blocking" then that's not allowed.

[YomoFox]

Sorry for bump but we should add

・ Don't push otehr zombie with zombie

[memo3300]

1. Holding up the round when there are 3 or more players dead: Not allowed.


what.

13/16 players alive... everyone have to suicide? the rule should be 3/4 of dead players.