About # of Admins Needed for VIP Approval (READ ENTIRE POST BEFORE COMMENTING)

[Sabb]

the VIP apps are being looked at - we have other shit to do and we can't constantly "Let you know that we're looking at your app" because we are - we're up to date with the apps and we know whos applying and who deserves it or not.

But bottom line is: WE ARE LOOKING AT THEM. we don't have to let you know if we're looking at it - just fucking PM us and ask if we've seen it and most of the time we'll say yes we have.

I don't doubt that would be the case in your TS group, the thread's more directed to the younger admins.

[ursus]

All you guys are taking this too seriously. Let me color code it so you can understand:

+1: They want you to be VIP and have a valid reason why.

-1: They think you shouldn't have VIP for whatever reason.

They didn't post: They didn't care.

[Moo]

for once i agree with gamefreak, its that simple

LEAVE AT THAT and for the ones who want mroe admins to post AGREED and im gonna do my part and post

[Sabb]

It just seems like my argument is being ignored now, and the thread has gone too far.
Just lock it.

[Deathie]

The Prosecution withdrawls your honor.

[Carp]

This thread = stupid
the arguments = stupid

I bet if I applied for vip today I wouldn't even get it.

[Moo]

actually I would +1 you carp lol and im sure like a good 6 other people would

[Sabb]

Look, the last person to get VIP was iPounce, he was approved December 26, 2010.
He was approved with 4 +1's.
The minimum is now 6 +1's.
There has not been another VIP since iPounce...

Maybe my suggestion isn't the greatest, maybe it won't ACTUALLY solve anything, but you can't just say the system is fine as it is now...

[Carp]

meh, i think there are a few people who should be vip who aren't.

Don't know if that's due to admins overlooking them or something i don't know lol.

[Moo]

How To: VIP

What is VIP?
VIP is a privilege and is not something to be abused
It is not something you can demand or something you deserve
Please do not BITCH or CRY or WHINE for VIP

How to get VIP
      * Members must PM an admin with their application
      * If application is decent, an admin will post the application
      * Admins will reply
      * 2/3 ACTIVE Admins approve based on personal bias
      * One week until applicant is judged for 2/3's
      * NOTE: 2/3 is a fraction, not 2 admins..
      ** 2/3 MEANS ADMINS ONLY, VIPS CAN ONLY HELP SO MUCH
      *** If the time is expired, and the app is undecided or vacant of votes - The application should be deleted and resubmitted.
      **** If the applicant is beyond fail, the application is to be locked and not resubmitted.

Abilities
      - Can start votekick & voteban
      - Time between votes to 30s for votekick & voteban

Organize application however you feel necessary, remember having a better application will give you more of a chance to become VIP
If you have any questions, please feel free to send me a PM or send Coolzeldad a PM


ADMINS PLEASE READ
PLEASE DO NOT POST AN APPLICATION THAT IS A PIECE OF SHIT OR OF A PLAYER THAT DOES NOT QUALIFY
DO NOT GIVE THIS OUT LIKE RESPECTED, I WILL BE WATCHING AND SEEING WHO IS BEING PROMOTED AND GOOD REASONS WHY
PLEASE POST A DATE IN YOUR TITLE

If you ingame name does not match your VIP application name and u are seen ingame and admin is confused, they have permission to demote you without question

YOU MUST PROVIDE YOUR STEAM ID
ALL SUBMISSIONS WITHOUT A STEAM ID WILL BE DELETED OR UNAPPROVED WITHOUT NOTICE!

DO NOT DISTURB ADMINS WITH YOUR VIP APPLICATIONS, SEND IT ONCE NOT OVER 9000 TIMES, IF ANY ADMIN DOES NOT POST IT... CHANCES ARE YOUR APPLICATION IS NO GOOD, DO NOT RESEND UNLESS YOU CAN MATCH UP TO OTHER VIPS

IT IS STILL A 2/3 ADMIN VOTE, VIPS MAY ONLY HELP SWAY YOUR APPLICATION BY A LITTLE

nothings changed, ratios still the same its just most people who apply fkin blow balls or have acted stupid towards certain admins

[Sabb]

nothings changed, ratios still the same its just most people who apply fkin blow balls or have acted stupid towards certain admins

Sure, the ratio is still the same...
It IS an issue though you can't ignore that... It has gotten much harder to receive VIP, which before, was a good thing, but it has gotten way too hard.
One way or another, clearly something should be done differently, otherwise there would have been SOME more approved applications.
I bet the system for VIP was updated to 6/9 +1's after iPounce was approved too. If not, he shouldn't be VIP with 4 +1's.

[Moo]

no it gets updated when admins who dont post, post

and they stay there because its not fair to not count them in

also i dont believe its that much more difficult than before, i believe that there are no worthy players anymore

[Deathie]

also i dont believe its that much more difficult than before, i believe that there are no worthy players anymore

Well that left a sizable flesh would.

[Sabb]

no it gets updated when admins who dont post, post

and they stay there because its not fair to not count them in

also i dont believe its that much more difficult than before, i believe that there are no worthy players anymore

Never has there ever been 6 +1's on any VIP application.
The most EVER has been 5 on Devie and Sheeps_Aholy's applications.
There was one app that got approved with one +1 even...
But none have ever had +6.
(I counted through all of them)
I do understand that there are more admins now, and so there will be more +1's, but still...

[coolzeldad]

One way or another, clearly something should be done differently, otherwise there would have been SOME more approved applications.

There is nothing that says a certain amount of VIP applications should be approved over an arbitrary amount of time.

If 2/3 admins agree or not that an applicant should have VIP privileges then that's all there is to it.