Official Server rules discussion thread

[Prox]

Basically coolz just said what I have been saying.

There is no difference in killing high and low karma people.

It's both RDM.

After all, RDM still means random death match.

I still think it's really stupid to include a rule for it.

He said that killing players with low karma if they're suspects is allowed but killing players with low karma just because of their karma is a different thing. That is just like target RDM in my opinion.
   Or think about it in this way, Player A with a good karma is going to kill Player B who has low karma. They are both innocent. After Player A attacks, Player B shoots him back. Then Player B gets killed.
 At the end of the round Player A loses small amount of karma while Player's B already low karma gets even lower.

[Frank]

He said that killing players with low karma if they're suspects is allowed but killing players with low karma just because of their karma is a different thing. That is just like target RDM in my opinion.
   Or think about it in this way, Player A with a good karma is going to kill Player B who has low karma. They are both innocent. After Player A attacks, Player B shoots him back. Then Player B gets killed.
 At the end of the round Player A loses small amount of karma while Player's B already low karma gets even lower.

The point is the reason. If you kill someone for no real reason, as in suspicion, it's RDM. If you kill someone because of their karma, it's RDM. If you kill someone because they're faggots, it's RDM.

[Shawn]

The point is!

It doesn't matter what someones Karma is you can only kill someone for a good reason not because of karma.

[Deacon]

Basically coolz just said what I have been saying.

There is no difference in killing high and low karma people.

It's both RDM.

After all, RDM still means random death match.

I still think it's really stupid to include a rule for it.

[Prox]

Okay, let's just vote whether killing people with low karma should be considered something like target RDM. Just type Yes or No. You can also add a reason why are you voting Yes/No if you want.

   My vote is a yes.

[Dale Feles]

Killing people with low karma WITHOUT REASON is rdm.

If you kill them with a REASON it is not rdm.

I vote YES

[memo3300]

Can we make it like, 1 or 2 warnings before a kick/ban for killing low karma guys?


I mean, you can allways think "oh is this guy" and then go like "ohh shit".

I think that if the kill doesn't got a good argument, the player should be warned, and if he kills again someone with low karma without a good argument, action should be taken.

[Prox]

Killing people with low karma WITHOUT REASON is rdm.

If you kill them with a REASON it is not rdm.

I vote YES

I hope you do know that this vote is about whether killing players with low karma just because of it being low should be considered as TARGET RDM.

Can we make it like, 1 or 2 warnings before a kick/ban for killing low karma guys?


I mean, you can allways think "oh is this guy" and then go like "ohh shit".

I think that if the kill doesn't got a good argument, the player should be warned, and if he kills again someone with low karma without a good argument, action should be taken.

I think that it would be better to make it either as target RDM or a regular RDM.



Also making skycades in ZS is now allowed

[Frank]

Why are we still discussing this? If you kill someone without suspicion, it's RDM.

Doesn't matter if they're low karma'd.


And targetting RDM means killing certain people in special, doesn't matter what reasons.

[Dale Feles]

Why are we still discussing this? If you kill someone without suspicion, it's RDM.

Doesn't matter if they're low karma'd.


And targetting RDM means killing certain people in special, doesn't matter what reasons.

Pretty much this.

[[TTPN] ShadowMoon]

13. Using map traps(ie the electric trap in ttt_whitehouse) to kill others is allowed, but using them to kill a fellow traitor or a detective when you're innocent is not allowed

16. Killing someone because they have low karma is not allowed

For rule 13 in TTT, I strongly disagree about using electric trap in ttt_whitehouse to kills others is allowed. It suppose to be allowed only to Traitor. I once played in that map and encounter a minge who killed more than 4 players (2 Traitor 2 Inno), that's allowed?

For rule 16 in TTT, I strongly disagree that it is not allowed. There are some idiots/minge who keep RDMing (even his karma drops till 10). We should give him/her a punishment like KOS until he felt sorry for what he had done to us.

[Pilgrim]

For rule 16 in TTT, I strongly disagree that it is not allowed. There are some idiots/minge who keep RDMing (even his karma drops till 10). We should give him/her a punishment like KOS until he felt sorry for what he had done to us.

I think you may have misinterpreted wht was meant. They said you cant kill a low karma player just because he has low karma. If someone is RDM'ing then you have a reason to kill them. You just cant hunt them down at the start of the round (target rdm). But then again if he has like 10 karma the damage will be so low by the time he attempts to kill you, you can kill him before your health even goes below 90.

[Prox]

For rule 13 in TTT, I strongly disagree about using electric trap in ttt_whitehouse to kills others is allowed. It suppose to be allowed only to Traitor. I once played in that map and encounter a minge who killed more than 4 players (2 Traitor 2 Inno), that's allowed?

If people don't want to get killed by that trap then they shouldn't go near it.

[Travelsonic]

If people don't want to get killed by that trap then they shouldn't go near it.

Or, as *SEEMINGLY* intended, keep it traitors only?

[Pilgrim]

Or, as *SEEMINGLY* intended, keep it traitors only?

This would use some problems. All maps with these types of traps would have to be modified by a mapper. For the majority of maps (probably) we would need the original creators permission to edit said maps