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[Intelligent Discussion] Zimmerman Trial
« on: July 14, 2013, 12:52:27 PM »
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Kay guise. So, what are your opinions on this matter?

I think justice has been served, the media had no business blowing up this case, and the ignorant black communities had to find out that they can't always blame "hate crimes" and win.

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Re: [Intelligent Discussion] Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2013, 01:07:59 PM »
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I personally think this whole thing like you said was wayyyyy blown up. But I kinda do think that he should have been Punished. yah know he did kill him. and yeah it was a mistake but he still killed him and was found not guilty.


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Re: [Intelligent Discussion] Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2013, 01:27:53 PM »
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I don't know a lot about this but it's hard to think what a 17 year old can do (assuming he was alone and unarmed) to get shot by the police, of course accidents might happen and he shouldn't have attacked a police officer in the first place. I can't say if he should or shouldn't be punished but I definitely agree with you on the "hate crimes" thing. Again, I don't know much about this, I would look it up but my pc is under repair and mobile internet is just too slow.


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Re: [Intelligent Discussion] Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2013, 01:29:54 PM »
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Even though it was self-defense and Trayvon was found to be under drugs, Zimmerman should've not approached him as the dispatcher suggested to.

I'm not sure how they determine sentences so I won't.



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Re: [Intelligent Discussion] Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2013, 02:18:51 PM »
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When I first heard of a 17 year old unarmed boy being shot by a neighborhood watchman, I was on Trayvon's side wanting Zimmerman to be punished. But after the case I was leaning over the fact that it was self-defense. It didn't really matter if it was self-defense for me, but I think if Trayvon attacked Zimmerman first, he probably had a right to. It's been reported that Zimmerman has been keeping an eye on Trayvon/Following him. I don't blame him for finally standing up and attacking Zimmerman, but I think things could've gone a different way whereas Trayvon could've lived.

I'm also not sure about how sentences are given, but I think Zimmerman should've at least been penalized, I mean he killed a minor.

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Re: [Intelligent Discussion] Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2013, 07:33:17 PM »
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I basically have the same opinion as most of you all. I feel like this is none of our business, and it really shouldn't have gotten blown up as much as it did because of "race" I guarantee if the verdict was the same and it was a white guy who was killed, people would just go on about their day. Still though, as said, he did still kill someone. His lack of remorse towards the situation is a bit unnerving, whether self defense or not, he did kill someone unarmed, and he doesn't seem very moved by it. I think he should have gotten something, even if it's not getting locked up. The whole thing is just so iffy, the only people I think who will ever truly know the truth, are the people who were there.


Also is it just me, or did the court session seem really unprofessional?
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Re: [Intelligent Discussion] Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2013, 07:56:04 PM »
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So many people on Facebook with terrible grammar are crying about it and saying that Zimmerman should be killed.

It's hilarious.


But I kinda do think that he should have been Punished. yah know he did kill him

I think Zimmerman should've at least been penalized, I mean he killed a minor.

Still though, as said, he did still kill someone. His lack of remorse towards the situation is a bit unnerving, whether self defense or not, he did kill someone unarmed, and he doesn't seem very moved by it. I think he should have gotten something, even if it's not getting locked up.

He's already being punished with death threats, just imagine yourself being threaten by thousands of people. Zimmerman will probably have to be in hiding for the rest of his life because of this.
« Last Edit: July 14, 2013, 08:05:31 PM by No Sperm »
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Re: [Intelligent Discussion] Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2013, 12:13:22 AM »
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So many people on Facebook with terrible grammar are crying about it and saying that Zimmerman should be killed.

It's hilarious.


He's already being punished with death threats, just imagine yourself being threaten by thousands of people. Zimmerman will probably have to be in hiding for the rest of his life because of this.
In the end, Zimmerman got screwed over anyway because he's up in America's shitlist with Casey Anthony and the Westboro church family.

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Re: [Intelligent Discussion] Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2013, 03:25:28 AM »
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I see Zimmerman as the next OJ.  There are some facts that paint his guilt without a doubt.

He followed Trayvon, and initiated a confrontation despite the 911 operator's order to not do so.

A struggle ensued as a result of Zimmerman's actions.  Zimmerman killed him.  He should have been found guilty of manslaughter at the least.



With Zimmerman off the hook, this tells people they can use the Stand Your Ground law to kill anyone they want in states with that law. 

Just make sure you kill your target, and somewhere with no witnesses.

Just say you felt threatened after you stalked them down in their own neighborhood and shot them in a struggle which your feared for your life.

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Re: [Intelligent Discussion] Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2013, 08:32:13 AM »
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For the love of TL;DR (concise and to the point instead of several spoilers, as well as the sake of clarity):

I don't like the way authority and responsibilities are being handled, and I don't like that while Zimmerman isn't being hung in Times Square (I'm grateful we're not doing that asdf anymore) he's still able to go around proclaiming that he's killed a man 'out of self defense' without being slapped on the wrist (I can believe it was an accident perpetuated by adrenaline or some lack of thought/heroism ho!)...

And through all that, the man is fucking smiling while in court. In court, where they will read to you, directly, what you've been accused of, and being that Zimmerman was there- nay, he was in fact the reason a bullet entered a random individual, he gets to sit there and relive that moment, to know that he was the reason someone is dead regardless of if they were a 'good' or 'bad' guy. To possibly mull over the fact that, regardless of if Treyvon was trying to deter Zimmerman from following him, such actions were met with lethal action (maybe Treyvon was trying to strangle Zimmerman, I wasn't there. But I'm more than certain Zimmerman could have easily trumped Martin physically than resort to the be-all-end-all).

He's in court, wherein you are being tried for a crime, and people are watching you. With what few witnesses are there, who may occasionally make eye contact with you. Zimmerman was there to follow Treyvon, shoot him, and stick around while he died (I can believe that maybe Zimmerman was like "What did I just do?", or have shut down after shooting Treyvon resulting in no EMS call... I would). To deny that would be akin to saying that Zimmerman never followed or encountered Martin (in excess of) self defense, nor did he have a gun on him. Nor is he king of neighborhood watch, nor is any of this real.

Yet, he's smiling. Even if Zimmerman was another race as well as Treyvon.... he's... smiling. Only, now he can go do what he pleases. There isn't any trace of blood on his hands, and that other person never existed.

Santa who?

What's that, you've run over an old lady? That's alright, she was getting old, and you're an important brain surgeon who needed to take a shortcut through a residential sidewalk to save someone's life.

Anders Behring Breivik broke down into tears. Media induced? Who knows. I just still see a man smiling after taking authority into his own hands, and willfully instigating something that he was encouraged not to (by someone who's job, and the lives of others, depend on their decision making skills), and not having ensured that it could have ended better/had even started at all, resulting in the death of another fellow human being (but is it ever humanly possible to ensure everything is perfect?).

I just hope that's not a genuine smile indicating pleasure or satisfaction. I would very much like you to not kick my child in the head because it pleases you, please.
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Re: [Intelligent Discussion] Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2013, 08:34:23 AM »
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So many people on Facebook with terrible grammar are crying about it and saying that Zimmerman should be killed.

It's hilarious.


He's already being punished with death threats, just imagine yourself being threaten by thousands of people. Zimmerman will probably have to be in hiding for the rest of his life because of this.

"1 LIEK= 1 PUNCH TO THE FACE"
"HOW MUCH LIKES CAN THIS LITTLE ANGEL GET?"

But I agree with the majority of the people in this thread

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Re: [Intelligent Discussion] Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2013, 09:07:27 AM »
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Pretty much... what unit said...
As for the dispatch bit where he was told not to do anything, I find this disgusting. If there were say, a rapid or otherwise dangerous animal in your back yard, you call the police, and you're told specifically to do nothing unless it poses an immediate threat and attacks. So being the smug ass you are, you instead put on a gleeful smile, grab a gun and decide to go out and shoot the animal.

Well you'll be arrested for that. Depending on the animal, it could be something as minor as 'hunting' illegally, or if its a pet, you'd better prepare your ass for the inbound lawsuits.
This guy shot and killed an unarmed kid, and got away without any punishment.
A kid makes a joke online and get 8 years in prison.
A kid is harassed online, and faces up to 10 years in jail.
I sneeze too close to someone wealthy (and a raging asshole) and they get sick, and I could be arrested for assault.
And I repeat. This guy got away with nothing for not just killing a kid, but enjoying it and being proud of the fact.
What. The. Fuck.
Regardless of the situation beforehand, the fault is almost purely on Zimmerman due to his actions, to my knowledge.
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Re: [Intelligent Discussion] Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2013, 08:09:59 PM »
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If there were say, a rapid or otherwise dangerous animal in your back yard, you call the police, and you're told specifically to do nothing unless it poses an immediate threat and attacks. So being the smug ass you are, you instead put on a gleeful smile, grab a gun and decide to go out and shoot the animal.
Off point: Is it bad that I actually would do that?

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Re: [Intelligent Discussion] Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2013, 08:53:35 PM »
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Off point: Is it bad that I actually would do that?
Depends on what animal it is.
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Re: [Intelligent Discussion] Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2013, 11:03:56 PM »
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I haven't followed this case very well. Can someone give me a rundown of what happened?