I just want to discuss something

[Purple]

When I join the ttt serer, I fuck around. If people don't like it...
I
Don't
Care?

This.
Seriously you guys, you're telling those people not to care when you should be the ones not caring about the people who bother you. If you really wanted this to stop I suggest you ignore those who get annoyed easily and eventually they will just get used to it, or at least a majority of them will.

lol
It's not about the servers though, that's the thing. The most of the drama/issues is simply people exaggerating tiny problems to make huge issues out of it and constantly bringing it up when ever they can, including on the servers, rather than just ignoring the person and not purposely trying to start more issues. People like drama, so I really don't see that changing.

Sort of this too, how are the servers a problem? It's the people, even myself sometimes, like when I got annoyed at you guys spamming all over the chat, I kind of snapped and told you guys to shut up, but it's not because I wanted drama, it's just annoying and sometimes hard to ignore.. but I'm not saying to say shit back to me, just mute/ignore me, or go in your own channel and talk there, whatever.

[semy32]

People act like this beacuse of the "electronic impulses" from space.

[Sabb]

This.
Seriously you guys, you're telling those people not to care when you should be the ones not caring about the people who bother you. If you really wanted this to stop I suggest you ignore those who get annoyed easily and eventually they will just get used to it, or at least a majority of them will. Sort of this too, how are the servers a problem? It's the people, even myself sometimes, like when I got annoyed at you guys spamming all over the chat, I kind of snapped and told you guys to shut up, but it's not because I wanted drama, it's just annoying and sometimes hard to ignore.. but I'm not saying to say shit back to me, just mute/ignore me, or go in your own channel and talk there, whatever.

Just... rage to yourself... ._.
When people are directly bitching at you, and insulting you, you're not just going to ignore them...
So please, just keep these stupid minor complaints to yourself... it's really not even a problem, but complaining about it and then making fun of people makes it into a problem. Simply don't do that.

[Deathie]

People act like this because of the "electronic impulses" from space.

I love you.

[Shockah]

So I suppose I'm the only one who thinks that we shouldn't even be having this discussion? Hotgreen is basing this assumption off of his one journey into TTT in forever in which he and Ruben had newton fight whilst not T's and in spectator. I understand it's fun for the two of you but it's a bit hard to ignore the two of you flying around the map with newtons and knives whilst the rest of the players are actually trying to play the game. A good portion of people join TTT to have fun not by fucking around but by playing the game, when you interfere with the game you're ruining their fun and they get mad it's pretty simple.

[aerobro]

So I suppose I'm the only one who thinks that we shouldn't even be having this discussion? Hotgreen is basing this assumption off of his one journey into TTT in forever in which he and Ruben had newton fight whilst not T's and in spectator. I understand it's fun for the two of you but it's a bit hard to ignore the two of you flying around the map with newtons and knives whilst the rest of the players are actually trying to play the game. A good portion of people join TTT to have fun not by fucking around but by playing the game, when you interfere with the game you're ruining their fun and they get mad it's pretty simple.

I support this so hard it hurts.

[Tezuni]

So I suppose I'm the only one who thinks that we shouldn't even be having this discussion? Hotgreen is basing this assumption off of his one journey into TTT in forever in which he and Ruben had newton fight whilst not T's and in spectator. I understand it's fun for the two of you but it's a bit hard to ignore the two of you flying around the map with newtons and knives whilst the rest of the players are actually trying to play the game. A good portion of people join TTT to have fun not by fucking around but by playing the game, when you interfere with the game you're ruining their fun and they get mad it's pretty simple.

Yep.  Nothing good ever comes out of these types of threads, also this discussion is just common sense.

[Hotgreensoldier]

So I suppose I'm the only one who thinks that we shouldn't even be having this discussion? Hotgreen is basing this assumption off of his one journey into TTT in forever in which he and Ruben had newton fight whilst not T's and in spectator. I understand it's fun for the two of you but it's a bit hard to ignore the two of you flying around the map with newtons and knives whilst the rest of the players are actually trying to play the game. A good portion of people join TTT to have fun not by fucking around but by playing the game, when you interfere with the game you're ruining their fun and they get mad it's pretty simple.

I'm not basing it simply off of that. I'm not talking about ONLY us. You haven't noticed the drama with the other admins TRYING to piss each other off and undermine each other? It's even caused one of them to become completely inactive and just not want to deal with it anymore. We do that once in a while after a LONG time, like every few months or so (fooling around in TTT). We try not to bother people too much and if they ARE bothered, we stop. I'm not basing this assumption off of something that happened in TTT, of course not. It's just the fact that the community has been fighting a LOT and it just seems like most of it is over things which can easily be fixed, or are not even that big.

We barely even play on our own servers anymore.

We've been reduced to playing the occasional game together, and even then we do it in separate groups. We've officially reached the point where there's too many people for the people that are here to be able to get along with each other when there's ten other people to hang out with. In short, we've made like a high school and made cliques. The community has also gone on long enough for each of us to have our own history here, and plenty of us have had more than one negative experience with each other, poisoning our opinions.

There are a few things that could legitimately fix this, but it'll need cooperation. Something like a large number of us playing ZS or TTT. The problem is none of us WANTS to play any of the servers we have up ATM because they're horrendous. New ZS is easily cool, but it would be so much better if it had some of the things that made old ZS great in it. And don't get me started on TTT.

There's one thing that could help fix the solution, and that's fixing the karma system. I will play our servers 5ever if we had a better karma system.

Maybe when the servers are back we can just have a big celebration and have everyone in a game of ZS or something. TTT is much too...Unstable, even back then.

[Seb]

I'm not basing it simply off of that. I'm not talking about ONLY us. You haven't noticed the drama with the other admins TRYING to piss each other off and undermine each other? It's even caused one of them to become completely inactive and just not want to deal with it anymore. We do that once in a while after a LONG time, like every few months or so (fooling around in TTT). We try not to bother people too much and if they ARE bothered, we stop. I'm not basing this assumption off of something that happened in TTT, of course not. It's just the fact that the community has been fighting a LOT and it just seems like most of it is over things which can easily be fixed, or are not even that big.


Maybe when the servers are back we can just have a big celebration and have everyone in a game of ZS or something. TTT is much too...Unstable, even back then.

I'd LIKE to play ZS, but something that's a mix of old and new.

[Fenix]

This might just be me, but I feel that when coolz had to stop hosting and other people took over, losing some of the other servers made them lose their purpose for playing and they reluctantly switched over to the other rNd servers that they did not enjoy very much for various reasons (i.e. trolls, TTT traitor bait leading to major karma loss, etc.) and they have started to try and tolerate it; when they do, however, they lose their patience and start to get pissed off because they are not used to the type of stuff like other server specific regulars. One example might be me on TTT not losin' karma to a traitor bait, like a proven inno suddenly pulling a knife, unlike a person who might have just started.

TL;DR-Losing certain servers made them switch over reluctantly to the other available (mostly TTT) and they try to put up with it, can't, and get pissy.

[blαh2355]

Well I think the reason is that people want to play the game as it was intended. This usually happens with large groups though (full server) although if there are a few cool people in the server (like around 8 regular people) then you could have something fun going on. We were playing C4 roulette for the lols.

[Tezuni]

I suggest talking to individuals to make amends. Public discussion is not going to fix anything, it makes it worse.

I wish people would stop making these topics.

[Fenix]

I suggest talking to individuals to make amends.

Every time something actually FUN is attempted to be brought into the TTT server I've seen it get shut down or reported. People no longer joke around and just try to get pissed off at each other at every chance they get, they try to undermine everyone they can and just generally act like assholes. I'm not calling names because it's been a majority of people. It's like at this point everyone is just trying to find all the bad things about someone and just completely throw them out there as much as possible.

[Tezuni]

Public discussion is not going to fix anything, it makes it worse.

[Samo]

Some players in the TTT server need to get back into line. Some of new players and trolls are screwing around more than ever. Shockah kicked 3 or 4 players within one damn round. And these trolls just keep piling up.

Now, for players within the entire community, come together and play some games. Left 4 Dead, CS. whatever. Just get to know each other better, sort yourselves out if you think something's wrong. I myself am going to do a lot more mapping, and hopefully make something enjoyable. But anyway, things like these will take time getting used to.