I just want to discuss something

[○ Μαρία ○]

Because what 5 people might find funny might not be to the other 13 people.

I can agree with this,
What 4 or 5 people find funny, might not be funny to the rest of the population.
Complaining about something that you do yourself doesn't back up what you are saying.

[Sabb]

um
now im confused lol
Aas far as I know, people are complaining about certain people's behaviors around others, as well as some of the Ruben TTT shit I guess. Marie, what are you talking about? Or are you just generally supporting what he said?

[○ Μαρία ○]

um
now im confused lol
Aas far as I know, people are complaining about certain people's behaviors around others, as well as some of the Ruben TTT shit I guess. Marie, what are you talking about? Or are you just generally supporting what he said?

In a more cryptic/sarcastic way I said that he (and other people as well) goes and says dumb jokes that are continuously repeated daily, but when someone else does something like that in TTT, "wownopesomadgtfo" I just don't get it. How can you be annoyed/angered by something you also do yourself? In simpilar terms I am calling him a hypocrite.

[Tiger Guy]

I can agree with this,
What 4 or 5 people find funny, might not be funny to the rest of the population.
Complaining about something that you do yourself doesn't back up what you are saying.

In that case, the other 12 people don't really know what the fuck is going on or don't really care. It's only the 3 that don't think it's funny.

[Sabb]

In a more cryptic/sarcastic way I said that he (and other people as well) goes and says dumb jokes that are continuously repeated daily, but when someone else does something like that in TTT, "wownopesomadgtfo" I just don't get it. How can you be annoyed/angered by something you also do yourself? In simpilar terms I am calling him a hypocrite.

uuuuuuh
I was more aware of people not liking the way you act with others/others act around you lol. (not my opinion)

[○ Μαρία ○]

uuuuuuh
I was more aware of people not liking the way you act with others/others act around you lol. (not my opinion)

Well if that's how they feel so be it, I just act normally, and how other people act is not really something I can control. I just stated my opinion on the matter. Some might not agree, but that's just how I see things.

[Deacon]

Is this really about to get twisted into a shit slinging thread?

We've had these discussions before. The jokes get old, the people grow apart, old interests abandoned for new. People are becoming bitter because they are no longer having fun, so they try to point their fingers at something/someone. Add into that a new player base we are not accustomed to, and lack of control on the server(s), and it's easy to feel were losing control.

People just need to understand that things, people, change. You do too, no reason to hate for that.

[Deathie]

People just need to understand that things, people, change.

Yeah.

I've noticed a lot of members go through a sort of "phase" about a year after being here where they feel that everything has changed too much and it's not the same as what made them join in the first place.

At that point, they either leave and are forgotten, or stay and try to put up with it.

There's no real way to get over that. Most people I've seen just take a break from the community. Leave for a few months, then come back.

Others do their best to keep things the way they remember it, but just because of how the world works, their efforts are futile.

ITT: Community mid-life crisis all around.

[Deacon]

Absolutely, that.

[Seb]

We barely even play on our own servers anymore.

We've been reduced to playing the occasional game together, and even then we do it in separate groups. We've officially reached the point where there's too many people for the people that are here to be able to get along with each other when there's ten other people to hang out with. In short, we've made like a high school and made cliques. The community has also gone on long enough for each of us to have our own history here, and plenty of us have had more than one negative experience with each other, poisoning our opinions.

There are a few things that could legitimately fix this, but it'll need cooperation. Something like a large number of us playing ZS or TTT. The problem is none of us WANTS to play any of the servers we have up ATM because they're horrendous. New ZS is easily cool, but it would be so much better if it had some of the things that made old ZS great in it. And don't get me started on TTT.

There's one thing that could help fix the solution, and that's fixing the karma system. I will play our servers 5ever if we had a better karma system.

[ٶȻhriʂ]

Is this really about to get twisted into a shit slinging thread?
We've had these discussions before. The jokes get old, the people grow apart, old interests abandoned for new. People are becoming bitter because they are no longer having fun, so they try to point their fingers at something/someone. Add into that a new player base we are not accustomed to, and lack of control on the server(s), and it's easy to feel were losing control.

People just need to understand that things, people, change. You do too, no reason to hate for that.

i couldn't have said that better in any way possible.
                                                                              BEWARE TL;DR TOUCHY TOUCHY STORY INCOMING
the first time i joined the rNd servers somewhere in mid 2010 with a diff steam acc,
the only server i played then was flood.
now i didin't even know there were other servers back then but my first experiences in flood were not quite that pleasant...
there were allways mingebags/douchebags you name it,
correct me if im wrong but somewhere at that time i think votekick was broken for respected members or something
so people just cept minging and being complete dicks.

Then abit later on i had discovered ZS,
There i rarely saw someone being a complete prick or minging

then i left gmod for awhile and started playing CSS,CA and shit like that.

when i came back with a new steam acc(i had forgotten my pass) somewhere in early-mid 2011,things were much different,
people were friendly to eachother(with the occasional asshole in the server)they were joking around,if an arguement they got over it quickly
then came the day i had offended some russians and got banned which then i discovered the Forums,
i was amazingly interrested in everyones behavior on the forums,sure there was an arguement now and then but everyone got over it,
i've had alot of laughs while in the forums,when i realized that i started to love this community

sometime after i became (Reg) people got more and more aggresive
there was allways the guys that ware calling out the russians and insulting them (i had learned to respect the russians)
there was too many people accused for hacking,hackers came often,people that i don't even know that hated the community

(that shit above happened before too but not that much)

even i was starting to get too cocky,
i started insulting people,got into arguement's,allmost everything others did(except minging and hacking)

then came the day i became too much of an asshole and everyone kind of lost respect for me

so i left for like 5-7 mounths to think everything over.

well now that im back even you guys seem abit off

*fucking typos

[Cable]

tl;dr'd.

When I join the ttt serer, I fuck around. If people don't like it...
I
Don't
Care?

Pretty much.

And also, I haven't been on ttt much recently so I have like no idea what is going on ehehehe...

[[TTPN] ShadowMoon]

tl;dr'd.

When I join the ttt serer, I fuck around. If people don't like it...
I
Don't
Care?

Pretty much.

And also, I haven't been on ttt much recently so I have like no idea what is going on ehehehe...

>:O

[Prox]

It should get better when the regular servers start again along with the sourcebans. Hopefully this will encourage VIPs/Admins to get on more.
   As for right now, I think that players are getting tired of constant rule breaking, so they are getting much less tolerant towards the "joking around" stuff.

[Sabb]

lol
It's not about the servers though, that's the thing. The most of the drama/issues is simply people exaggerating tiny problems to make huge issues out of it and constantly bringing it up when ever they can, including on the servers, rather than just ignoring the person and not purposely trying to start more issues. People like drama, so I really don't see that changing.