Quote from: Banana Hat on October 11, 2009, 07:49:45 AM

Quote from: Sanders on October 11, 2009, 12:56:28 AM

In all senses, I like how it is now. Admins can still move people teams, so they still have some power. I mean, stuff can be abused still but its not a big deal. Stuff is cool now. The worst an admin can do is move everyone but one person to human on a vendetta. Even then, thats not something that would ruin your day, just give you lulz  .

Here is something I don't get:
Your saying that making everyone switch teams to human to harass with one zombie is okay? But giving out weapons to humans and boosting health for zombies is wrong?

Seriously sanders What The Fuck?

Well, I have had this happen to me, and its like "Damn wtf" but its not the kind of thing that made me ragequit.

Where as giving your best buddy a super special awesome deagle shotgun kinda makes all the zombies sadface and ragequit.

The difference is that one is just unfair, and one is the kind of thing that ruins the balance of the game. ZS in general isnt fair (ie. getting picked as a zombie ), but it is balanced.

That wasnt really the point of my post anyways. The point was, if coolz sits down and says, "this is how it is, and how it is going to stay", then stuff will simmer down, but until then you will have discontent on one side or another.

Actually, im just going to post once in this topic, and let you guys decide whatever.  DELETOR

 lol okay sanders i have to let you know, the only reason i god-ed myself and killed you and insurance guy was because you insulted me again, publicly, in the server, when coolz said to not bring up this shit again. obviously you haven't "walked away" yet, as you said you would. the only reason i gave the ultimate weapon to cozmicforces was cause cozmic has a name hack and can see who's who, i had him spawn kill just you and insurance guy. sure he killed the fast zombies chasing him and had to to keep himself alive, but hey you got some good "evidence" on me. that was the second reason. the reasoning for that I'm not gonna say cause I've said it several times and I'm not gonna repeat myself anymore.

I do agree the server rules should be stated so there won't be any confusion... Sorry man

lol i rarely play on flood, and wasnt aware of this rule... and if you remember i stopped... unless this is the time when i stopped and everyone else continued so i joined in again? lol we killed all the props that time but if its not idk what happened to your props...

welcome to our community

sanders, you don't get it. i am suffering the same consequences as any other admin would... and Ruben does change settings in zs, he only does it when I'm in so i can take the blame.. he does things worse than me... I.E. no gravity or w.e he did... but wheres the post on that sanders?! you especially should have posted on that cause you weren't involved or even there... you're right you are pissing me and my "fans" off, im taking all the criticism you are giving, but i am not going to change my ways... how can you say im not taking criticism if im replying in debates with you? i am taking it im just not gonna conform. sanders you are still blowing this waaaaay out of proportion. grow up! move on! and how dare you even imply that i degrade this community. i have done more for this community than you have, i have made 3 maps, just finished an assmod plugin with ruben to redeem and zombify players, respected players, i have helped this community grow in ways i cant even count, i have been with it ever since it started.... what have yoU done for this comunity besides report me?

SANDERS, YOU ARE SPEAKING ALONE! WHERES YOUR POSSE? untill i see your fans on here giving constructive criticism, i am not gonna believe you when you say you're not alone.
and do you know the real reason why i banned sev? cause he kept cussing at everyone and when i told him to stop he attacked me, cussing is fine, like fuck you for killing me is fine and all but when you dont calm down and you attack other players and then attack the admin thats trying to keep order.. i didn't tolerate him so i banned him. he is more than welcome to come on here and post a ban appeal, i would tell him why he was banned and have just an "ok" from him and i would gladly unban him. but he is obviously self-righteous and stubborn to do it. pass the word on to him. i would even be willing to have him add me and we could do it on steam chat.

also, dont spread lies like you did today, im an not gonna put up with you anymore. especially if you're gonna turn my words around and try to use them against me, and spread rumors and lies about me.  I.E.
[Wire Build].:RND`=- Sanders:  wow, i hear sleeper banned everyone on ZSP
[Wire Build].:RND`=- Sanders:  is that true admin sleeper?
[Prop Hunt]housed:  did sleeper got demoted?
[Flood].:RND`=- Boat Sinker:  did he die?
[Wire Build].:RND`=- Power:  cool....
[Zombie Survival].:RND`=-cozmicforces-=:  lol sanders no need for lies
[Wire Build].:RND`=- Sanders:  why dont you ask sleeper, or better yet ask sev

sev never had a ZsP tag when i banned him....
this is your last warning... and i mean last. you've made your point more than once, there's no need for you to continue, drop this now.

First off why would you vote kick someone for no reason at all, just cause he, himself, is dying. and since vote kicking isn't taken seriously anymore people just automatically push yes just to get rid of the screen, you saying that all but two voted yes is not really a credible vote. also when you see someone dying FASTER THAN THEY CAN RE-SPAWN, wouldn't you think that its an admin killing him? or at least that someone is prop spawn killing? besides who would use a hack on themself to kill themselves several times, and just cause that bugs you cause you have a low tolerance, doesn't give you the right to start a vote kick, just cause its an "INCONVENIENCE"... how about if you dies twice in 1 min and i have no tolerance for that, its okay for me to kick you? and don't you say that I'm blowing things out of proportion cause I'm not. besides asking an admin to leave the server is like asking the president to leave the white house... it just doesn't happen...

and as far as "talking to coolz" goes, its not a threat, we know coolz thats how we became admins, i swear all this started when me and cooz decided to start an admin application post, the power has gone to the players heads... players are now setting the rules for admins, telling us how to admin, how to play, and when to leave... does anyone else see something wrong here?  and getting in an argument with the admins will not help you at all in getting admin in RND. you all can talk to coolz but i know he doesn't want to get involved in anything like this, and i don't blame him. think about this, do you really believe that he magically skips ALL the posts about admin abuse? like he doesn't see it at all... PEOPLE!!! its not his job to get involved in all this. its his job to make sure the servers are running fine, to make tweaks and bug fixes, and keep people updated on the forums. ALSO! if you guys didn't know, coolz hasn't told us anything on how to admin, so its left up to our best judgment. that makes us the Supreme court! We make the decisions! you players make us feel that its our job, the admins, to to baby sit you guys. and yes i did say babysit, cause you guys have obviously shown no capacity to deal with situations fairly or correctly. so as banana said its not a democracy, and i agree with him, its a day care center for you "players".
-sleepersoft