Have a suggestion for the rules? Maybe a modificaiton?

[coolzeldad]

Thanks to prox for the original thread, I am opening a new one with the new launch to give it a fresh start.. quoting original post (can be found here http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,7835.0.html )

The official server rules can be found here.
Do not forget that in certain cases the rules may differ and this list should be used along with common sense.




The rules listed below may not be implemented or valid yet.

Global rules that apply on all servers

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1. Racism is not allowed

2. Any kind of hacks or name changers are not allowed

3. Sprays that are offensive or pornographic are not allowed

4. Acting heavily disrespectful towards others will not be tolerated

5. Chat spam is not allowed

6. Giving away personal information (such as location, IP adress etc) is not allowed

7. Impersonating someone is not allowed

8.Using anti-AFK methods(i.e. +forward, +left) to avoid the AFK kicker is not allowed

Rules of ZS.

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1. Team killing in any way, no matter whether human or infected, is not allowed

2. Purposely breaking cades is not allowed unless it is with a very good reason.

3. Trapping people with props or a cade kit is not allowed

4. Using unbreakable props to cade is not allowed

5. Teleport blocking in any way will not be tolerated

6. Nailing down important parts needed to progress in the map (ie blue cores) is frowned upon and may be punished

7. Putting explosive barrels in front of people with the intent of killing them is not allowed

8. Glitching the cade kit so that the chems could not ignite/damage is not allowed

9. Using a jeep as a zombie on deathgarage map to kill humans is allowed

10. Helping to the opposite team (ie a zombie helping out humans) is dependant on the situation, but generally frowned upon. Up to each VIP/admin's personal judgement

11. Getting behind the fence on anchor is not allowed

12. Getting on top of the map checkpoint is not allowed

13. Making a cade with indestructible props even when zombies can get through it is not allowed

14. Any glitches or ways of getting outside the map will not be tolerated

15. Spawn killing on maps with only one small exit or where it's possible to camp the spawn from a spot unreachable for zombies (best example: infected hospital) is not allowed

16. Making sky cades aka tree houses that are high enough that zombies aren't able to damage it from below is allowed
A few examples of a sky cade:

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Rules of TTT.

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1. Target RDM, revenge RDM or mass RDM is not allowed

2. Pre-round prop kill is frowned upon, but not kickable unless committed multiple times

3. Traitors must get first blood. Killing as an innocent before any body is found is bad and is not allowed

4. Killing a detective as innocent unprovoked is kickable

5. Intentionally killing or giving away the identity of a fellow traitor will be punished harshly

6. Map glitching (ie going somewhere textures are missing or nobody can possibly get to you) is not allowed

7. Killing more than 4 innocents as an innocent or detective, OR, killing a single traitor as a traitor is kickable.

8. As a Traitor giving your knife/other traitor weaponry to an Innocent on purpose is not allowed

9. Carrying explosive barrels around people when Innocent or Detective and intentionally trying to get them killed by them is up to personal opinion of VIP/admin

10. Prop pushing is not allowed

11. Killing with the bridge on crummycradle is frowned upon, but allowed

12. Killing a person if he refuses to go into a traitor tester is allowed, but will simply count as regular RDM

13. Using map traps(ie the electric trap in ttt_whitehouse) to kill others is allowed, but using them to kill a fellow traitor or a detective when you're innocent is not allowed

14. Killing other players in any way that does not effect your karma unless it is a map trap is not allowed

15. Holding up the round on purpose is not allowed

16. Baiting other innocents into shooting you with an intent to make they karma go down is not allowed

17. Karma farming (ie going AFK in spectator mode to gain karma) is not allowed

18. Claiming rooms, territory, etc. is not allowed

Rules of WS.

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1. Holding up the round on purpose is not allowed

2. Killing people when the round starts WITHOUT A GOOD REASON is not allowed

Rules of Wire build.

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1. Prop spamming is not allowed

2. Abusing the e2 for bad purposes such as killing other players or blinding them is not allowed

3. Prop blocking will not be tolerated

4. Ruining other people contraptions is not allowed

5. Prop pushing is not allowed

Rules of Fretta

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1. Holding up the round in any gamemode is not allowed

2. Abusing any glitches within the gamemode or map is not allowed

3. Killing yourself in deathrun when you're death is not allowed

4. Giving free runs in deathrun is not allowed

Rules of Stronghold

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1. Spawn camping is allowed

2. Blocking map spawns is not allowed

3. Blocking portable spawns is allowed

4. Glitching yourself through a prop and being able to shoot when only your head is sticking out AKA crouch glitch AKA prop exploit is not allowed

5. Using props to get into high places such as buildings or when raiding other bases is allowed

6. Money farming(when your friend let's you to kill him so you could gain money or the opposite) is not allowed

I might add more later.
If you think I forgot something just let me know and then I'll might update the list.
And don't hesitate to edit my posts, admins, if you found something wrong with the rules that I have listed.

[Lavenchie]

12. Killing a person if he refuses to go into a traitor tester is allowed, but will simply count as regular RDM

I actually consider this T-baiting because you would assume only a traitor would attempt to opt. out of a t-testing.

[Pilgrim]

Not really.
I for one never get tested on maps like crummy cradle or borders, as it is so easy to be killed in them.

[Lavenchie]

Not really.
I for one never get tested on maps like crummy cradle or borders, as it is so easy to be killed in them.

Well in one case you got an Innocent killing you because you refuse to prove your innocence
In the other case, you get in the T-Tester with people monitoring the button and would KOS anyone who would press it.

[» Magic «]

wirebuild: no tool spamming

[Sabb]

i have some modificaitons

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2. Pre-round prop kill is frowned upon, but not kickable unless committed multiple times

I don't generally allow pre-round prop killing and as far as I was aware no admin has really ever been okay with it. It disables players from preparing for the round, getting weapons, etc. Shouldn't be allowed period imo.


6. Map glitching (ie going somewhere textures are missing or nobody can possibly get to you) is not allowed

Map glitching is usually dealt with differently than that. As long as the player has not gained any advantage over other players to potentially uneven the fairness of the game, then I allow it as most other admins just so people can have a little fun. So I suggest somewhere saying that no rules are complete concrete and that players must listen to the admin in-game but may post complaints or suggestions if they disagree with what the admin is enforcing.


7. Killing more than 4 innocents as an innocent or detective, OR, killing a single traitor as a traitor is kickable.

I usually ban after three in one round, as do most other admins as far as I'm aware. Still depends on the situation however. They're only banned if they're blatantly running around gunning down every person they can.


9. Carrying explosive barrels around people when Innocent or Detective and intentionally trying to get them killed by them is up to personal opinion of VIP/admin

I think this should simply be allowed as it's really just a part of the game. If the map implements things such as this that can be legitimately taken advantage of by players, then I don't see any problem with it. The only situation I don't allow this is when they whack the barrel against a dead body or something so that it blows up and results in no karma loss. Or prop pushing/trapping.


11. Killing with the bridge on crummycradle is frowned upon, but allowed

I think this should just be modified to say "Killing with props as a spectator is frowned upon, but allowed in all circumstances


14. Killing other players in any way that does not effect your karma unless it is a map trap is not allowed

"unless it is a map trap or a spectator controlled prop"


16. Baiting other innocents into shooting you with an intent to make they karma go down is not allowed

Baiting has always been allowed to a degree. Running up and shooting someone in the toe to get them to kill you however, is not allowed. Shooting around players is, however. Though if it becomes a huge annoyance to players and is constantly done, then I usually tell them not to and may eventually give a short ban. I think that line should be adjusted to support that view more.

[Travelsonic]

On the killing w/ traps thing:  no, just no - if it doesn't affect karma, it shouldn't matter if it is a map trap or not, otherwise you just invite massive amounts of RDMing and minging that ruins game play.

[Seb]

i have some modificaitons

11. Killing with the bridge on crummycradle is funny as fuck and allowed

ftfy

13. Making a cade with indestructible props even when zombies can get through it is not allowed

Why? Zombies can get through, it's just a matter of hitting enough to get rid of the nails.

[Sabb]

On the killing w/ traps thing:  no, just no - if it doesn't affect karma, it shouldn't matter if it is a map trap or not, otherwise you just invite massive amounts of RDMing and minging that ruins game play.

Actually, I think this should be discussed. I personally think that killing with a map trap should in any situation be fine as long as you don't lose karma for it and it's not a detective or traitor buddy that you're killing. Keep in mind, it's not like we have any maps that can kill a large amount of people on the server without it really being to their fault without losing karma.
And it does sound silly, but basically I don't consider it RDM if the trap doesn't affect karma. If it does, obviously it is RDM. Basically people can always really quite easily avoid being killed by any non-karmable map trap, and it's simply part of the map anyways. If that's there and a problem, the map simply should be removed. But anyways, non-karmable map traps can actually be an easy way to get rid of foolish/reckless players more or less. Can eliminate people you might suspect and stuff in a way that I personally think is fairly legitimate, as again, there's not really any map trap that's non-karmable which you can not simply avoid.

[Shockah]

18. Claiming rooms, territory, etc. is not allowed
I really think this should be expanded upon. Many a time I've said I'd shoot someone for entering a space I was in but not until it gets down to about 3 or less players and I'm really not certain of the T. I would never "claim" with any more than 5 players I'm just curious as to what your definition of claiming is. When the game gets low on players killing those coming into your space tends to be a really smart move, most players wouldn't rush someone threatening to kill them if they get any closer without the intention of killing said person which would typically imply they're a T and I find killing them to be a pretty logical decision.

12. Killing a person if he refuses to go into a traitor tester is allowed, but will simply count as regular RDM
RDM by definition is Random Death Match meaning no reason whatsoever but typically taken as no reason to suggest the person's T so there's kind of a flaw there. A) It's not random it's for a reason B) It's a pretty good reason to kill someone even though there are those out there, like myself, who refuse to be tested.

3. Traitors must get first blood. Killing as an innocent before any body is found is bad and is not allowed
Please changes this to something along the lines of "Traitors must take first action, a kill made upon a traitor before anything incriminating has been committed will count as First Blood RDM and is punishable." because as is even though common sense tells most of us otherwise, killing a traitor if he pulls a knife on you in the first 30 seconds of the round isn't allowed, killing a traitor because you watched him plant c4 when no one was dead also not allowed, etc.

[Deacon]

18. Claiming rooms, territory, etc. is not allowed
I really think this should be expanded upon. Many a time I've said I'd shoot someone for entering a space I was in but not until it gets down to about 3 or less players and I'm really not certain of the T. I would never "claim" with any more than 5 players I'm just curious as to what your definition of claiming is. When the game gets low on players killing those coming into your space tends to be a really smart move, most players wouldn't rush someone threatening to kill them if they get any closer without the intention of killing said person which would typically imply they're a T and I find killing them to be a pretty logical decision.

12. Killing a person if he refuses to go into a traitor tester is allowed, but will simply count as regular RDM
RDM by definition is Random Death Match meaning no reason whatsoever but typically taken as no reason to suggest the person's T so there's kind of a flaw there. A) It's not random it's for a reason B) It's a pretty good reason to kill someone even though there are those out there, like myself, who refuse to be tested.

3. Traitors must get first blood. Killing as an innocent before any body is found is bad and is not allowed
Please changes this to something along the lines of "Traitors must take first action, a kill made upon a traitor before anything incriminating has been committed will count as First Blood RDM and is punishable." because as is even though common sense tells most of us otherwise, killing a traitor if he pulls a knife on you in the first 30 seconds of the round isn't allowed, killing a traitor because you watched him plant c4 when no one was dead also not allowed, etc.

Your overly literal interpretation of the rules is undue.

[ursus]

because as is even though common sense tells most of us otherwise, killing a traitor if he pulls a knife on you in the first 30 seconds of the round isn't allowed, killing a traitor because you watched him plant c4 when no one was dead also not allowed, etc.

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Please, please be joking.

[Shockah]

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Please, please be joking.

Believe me I know most of you haven't exactly been overly active on ttt in a while, that's the shit I had to deal with 24/7 on temp. Though yes, I was exaggerating to an extreme, that being said that's literally how some people take the rules is how they're written. I'd rather simply have the wording changed which takes little to no effort then have to sift through every complaint of "RMD!". I'm not asking for a change of the rules just wording so that it actually fits what is and isn't punishable .-.

[semy32]

3. Traitors must get first blood. Killing as an innocent before any body is found is bad and is not allowed
Please changes this to something along the lines of "Traitors must take first action, a kill made upon a traitor before anything incriminating has been committed will count as First Blood RDM and is punishable." because as is even though common sense tells most of us otherwise, killing a traitor if he pulls a knife on you in the first 30 seconds of the round isn't allowed, killing a traitor because you watched him plant c4 when no one was dead also not allowed, etc.

That is just very stupid.

So you are saying that we should just let them do anything until they kill someone with a knife in their hands? Really?

[Prox]

2. Pre-round prop kill is frowned upon, but not kickable unless committed multiple times

I don't generally allow pre-round prop killing and as far as I was aware no admin has really ever been okay with it. It disables players from preparing for the round, getting weapons, etc. Shouldn't be allowed period imo.
Right now the only way to prop kill is to hit another prop with the prop you're holding, unless prop pushing which is not allowed in all cases.



6. Map glitching (ie going somewhere textures are missing or nobody can possibly get to you) is not allowed

Map glitching is usually dealt with differently than that. As long as the player has not gained any advantage over other players to potentially uneven the fairness of the game, then I allow it as most other admins just so people can have a little fun. So I suggest somewhere saying that no rules are complete concrete and that players must listen to the admin in-game but may post complaints or suggestions if they disagree with what the admin is enforcing.
It was like this the whole time, people were just too lazy to update it.


7. Killing more than 4 innocents as an innocent or detective, OR, killing a single traitor as a traitor is kickable.

I usually ban after three in one round, as do most other admins as far as I'm aware. Still depends on the situation however. They're only banned if they're blatantly running around gunning down every person they can.
If they do that this it means that they would kill the whole server if they could so obviously it's a mass rdm even if he managed to kill 3. Killing 4 innocents or fellow T should also be allowed if it was self defense.

9. Carrying explosive barrels around people when Innocent or Detective and intentionally trying to get them killed by them is up to personal opinion of VIP/admin

I think this should simply be allowed as it's really just a part of the game. If the map implements things such as this that can be legitimately taken advantage of by players, then I don't see any problem with it. The only situation I don't allow this is when they whack the barrel against a dead body or something so that it blows up and results in no karma loss. Or prop pushing/trapping.
I guess as long as someone has to shoot the barrel it could be fine.


11. Killing with the bridge on crummycradle is frowned upon, but allowed

I think this should just be modified to say "Killing with props as a spectator is frowned upon, but allowed in all circumstances
Obviously it should and it has always been like this.


14. Killing other players in any way that does not effect your karma unless it is a map trap is not allowed

"unless it is a map trap or a spectator controlled prop"
Your modified 11th rule already includes prop killing as spectator.


16. Baiting other innocents into shooting you with an intent to make they karma go down is not allowed

Baiting has always been allowed to a degree. Running up and shooting someone in the toe to get them to kill you however, is not allowed. Shooting around players is, however. Though if it becomes a huge annoyance to players and is constantly done, then I usually tell them not to and may eventually give a short ban. I think that line should be adjusted to support that view more.
If someone is shooting around a group of players it isn't that bad but when that player shoots at someone once they are alone is retarded as fuck and I give warnings on that, if the player repeats it, I kick him.

Why? Zombies can get through, it's just a matter of hitting enough to get rid of the nails.

Indestructible props = indestructible nails. 



3. Traitors must get first blood. Killing as an innocent before any body is found is bad and is not allowed

should be more like

3. Traitors must do something(ie pull out a knife, plant c4, shoot or kill someone) before they can be suspected and killed.