I'll throw in my bit
I've played with Stone Cold for awhile now, or at least, I used to. Before the temporary servers, Stone was a decent player who would play the game as it was meant to be. Afterwards though, I've noticed that Stone Cold constantly has low karma and therefore is constantly karma farming. I know this both from joining at random times and actually being called over by players who were complaining about it.
Now with the obvious aside, I want to point this out. Stone is a good guy at heart, don't get me wrong there, but he's constantly blaming others, or idiots as he calls them, for his low karma and he uses that as an excuse to karma farm. However, I've noticed that it can sometimes be his own fault that these "idiots" are calling him out. A perfect example:
This was probably my second round of playing because I was called over for a hacker. As I'm playing, I ran into one of the tunnels in Clue hoping to avoid unwanted situations. As I'm walking around these tunnels, I see Stone Cold
blatantly pass an Unid'd body. I mean, there is no way that anyone could miss that. these are tunnels where only one man can walk through, it was obvious Stone Cold was the traitor. So I spent the rest of my time blasting Stone in the face with whatever gun I had. achieving nothing because I had low karma, fully convinced that Stone was the traitor. Come to find out though, he wasn't. He was an innocent and I was honestly surprised.
What I'm trying to say is yes, I have noticed Stone become more of a problem player ever since these temp servers. I'm also trying to get the idea out there that it's possible that Stone Cold could be attacking these "idiots" (me being one of them) because of his own actions. There will always be those rdmers who purposefully try to make Stone Cold lose karma no doubt, but at least for myself, I'm convinced that at least half of these so called idiots who attack Stone have a legit reason. I know I did.
Now, I'm going to back track a bit here onto the karma farming situation. You can't say that Stone doesn't deserve some sort of an extended ban rather than just a kick or a days ban. He does deserve something a little bit longer. He has constantly,
constantly, been warned and kicked, and even banned for karma farming, yet Stone Cold still continues. What else is that besides defiance and a "fuck you" to the Admin's, VIP's, and even Regular players? Granted, that may not be the message Stone is meaning to give, but that's how I personally feel like it's being received. I'm not going to give Stone any slack though for what he's doing. It's a different story when it's the first few times. But consistently? I mean, even I realized that karma farming was a big deal because I started getting kicked for it and banned once or twice. Compared, I don't know how similar or different me and Stone Cold are in terms of karma farming, but I am sure Stone should have realized by now that karma farming isn't allowed, and if he is unwilling to abide by those rules, then I understand the two month ban.
Personally, after this long discussion, I'm hoping Stone Cold is getting the message if he hasn't already. Looking back at how Stone used to play, I would say give him maybe a two weeks ban, and afterwards see how he's acting. If he continues to repeat everything that's wrong and it's things that we've pointed out, then I say just give him the permanent ban for the temporary servers. It's obvious he isn't going to change anything. If he actually starts to play the game though and follows the rules, then it's all cool in my opinion.
Think about Stone. Think about what he does, the way he talks, the way he acts, and even the way he things. Think of all the good and bad times you've had with him and ask yourself "Is he really worth the trouble?" There's a clear reason why I'm fighting so hard to convince you he's not. If you're able to understand my position, fully and not just using small bits and fragments of information from my posts, AND you're able to give me an honest, educated, rational answer, then we'll see what happens from there. I know you probably think I'm the worst person in the world right now, who can't do anything right, but remember that I'm still willing to try and resolve the issue with you.
I get what you're saying Snivy, and truth be told, I agree with you. The only reason I'm arguing for a lesser ban on Stone's part is because I've played with Stone Cold for a long time. I feel like it's an obligation to help him out in his time of need. Now, I'm not saying that the ban you gave him was unneeded and completely out of line, because it wasn't. It's just, I personally feel Stone Cold should get at least one more chance before he is completely removed from the temp servers. If this whole discussion doesn't scream to Stone Cold telling him that what he is doing is wrong, then I'm all for the ban.
@Everyone saying that karma farming shouldn't be such a long ban,
This isn't really true in my opinion. There is no rulebook saying "Karma farming ban's cannot exceed x amount of days". Bans are there to help make the game more fun for everyone else who is following them. If someone is constantly breaking the same rule, even if it's a minor one, and they still continue to break the rules after constant warnings, kicks, and even bans, then it's obvious they don't care for the rules. Besides, if VIP's and Admin's are going to constantly kick and ban Stone Cold every single day, then doesn't it seem reasonable to just get Stone Cold out of the way so that we can worry about other problems?
