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Re: hey, let's have an intellectual discussion yeah?
« Reply #30 on: October 17, 2011, 03:56:55 PM »
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Not trying to derail this, but now I have a question.
What do you guys think would've happened if the Allies had lost WWI?

I personally think WWII would've happened anyways, but it would be Britain or France starting it, and the ideologies and reasons for fighting would be completely different.

But hey, at least the Holocaust probably wouldn't have happened.
The Germans almost won too if it wasn't for those bloody Americans and their damn dog.
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Re: hey, let's have an intellectual discussion yeah?
« Reply #31 on: October 17, 2011, 04:04:45 PM »
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The Germans almost won too if it wasn't for those bloody Americans and their damn dog.
The Japanese would almost win too if it wasn't for those meddling Americans and their damn atomic bombs.

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« Reply #32 on: October 17, 2011, 04:09:18 PM »
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We would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids!
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Re: hey, let's have an intellectual discussion yeah?
« Reply #33 on: October 17, 2011, 04:27:42 PM »
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The Japanese would almost win too if it wasn't for those meddling Americans and their damn atomic bombs.
That was WWII...
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Re: hey, let's have an intellectual discussion yeah?
« Reply #34 on: October 17, 2011, 04:40:48 PM »
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The Germans almost won too if it wasn't for those bloody Americans and their damn dog.
The Japanese would almost win too if it wasn't for those meddling Americans and their damn atomic bombs.

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Re: hey, let's have an intellectual discussion yeah?
« Reply #35 on: October 17, 2011, 04:41:40 PM »
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This and the movie "Fatherland" are good representations.

Again though WWII.
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Re: hey, let's have an intellectual discussion yeah?
« Reply #36 on: October 17, 2011, 04:42:43 PM »
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That was WWII...

Yea, that's why I was quoting your post.

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Re: hey, let's have an intellectual discussion yeah?
« Reply #37 on: October 17, 2011, 05:30:18 PM »
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A lot of you are talking as if if the South won, they would take over the whole country. But actually no, the South was not fighting to take over the US. They were fighting for their independence FROM the US, just like the US fought from the British. If the South won, the would become their own country, the CSA (Confederate States of America), just south of the USA.

But if the South had won and gained their independence, I'm fairly certain that the following things will happen:

- There will be no KKK.
- There will be MUCH more Blacks in the North, including Canada.
- Abraham Lincoln would not have been assassinated.
- The underground railroad would be in use for much longer, if not still in use.
- The CSA could/might be an ally of the Axis powers in WWII, as they share very similar ideals to those of the Nazis.

Not trying to derail this, but now I have a question.
What do you guys think would've happened if the Allies had lost WWI?

I personally think WWII would've happened anyways, but it would be Britain or France starting it, and the ideologies and reasons for fighting would be completely different.

But hey, at least the Holocaust probably wouldn't have happened.

As for this, I disagree. The main reason why Germany entered WWII was because they felt like they had been fucked over by the Allies in WWI. If they won WWI, not only would they receive money, they would not be given harsh punishments for the war. Thus, having no need for Hitler to "save" the Germans.

However, Japan would still start a war with China and America, as Japan was not hit hard by the Great Depression anyway. But because America does not need to send troops to Europe, the war with Japan will end much more quicker, and most likely no Atom Bomb will be used.
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Re: hey, let's have an intellectual discussion yeah?
« Reply #38 on: October 17, 2011, 05:39:17 PM »
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A lot of you are talking as if if the South won, they would take over the whole country. But actually no, the South was not fighting to take over the US. They were fighting for their independence FROM the US, just like the US fought from the British. If the South won, the would become their own country, the CSA (Confederate States of America), just south of the USA.

But if the South had won and gained their independence, I'm fairly certain that the following things will happen:

- There will be no KKK.
- There will be MUCH more Blacks in the North, including Canada.
- Abraham Lincoln would not have assassinated.
- The underground railroad would be in use for much longer, if not still in use.
- The CSA could/might be an ally of the Axis powers in WWII, as they share very similar ideals to those of the Nazis.

so... where would WE be ?? (azns)
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Re: hey, let's have an intellectual discussion yeah?
« Reply #39 on: October 17, 2011, 05:41:06 PM »
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so... where would WE be ?? (azns)
we haz slave too?! OH NO :O

Depends where your ancestors came from and how your family ended up in the South. Most likely, you would have ended up in California instead of the South, as California is still part of the USA, and it is closer to Asia than the other states.

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Re: hey, let's have an intellectual discussion yeah?
« Reply #40 on: October 17, 2011, 05:41:37 PM »
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so... where would WE be ?? (azns)
we haz slave too?! OH NO :O
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Re: hey, let's have an intellectual discussion yeah?
« Reply #41 on: October 17, 2011, 05:47:58 PM »
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Milwaukee would still be the most segregated city in the USA



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Re: hey, let's have an intellectual discussion yeah?
« Reply #42 on: October 17, 2011, 05:57:53 PM »
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If I was a Southern slave owner I would've been a bro to my slaves. I'd have educated them, maybe given some help with the chores, treat them as family, they'd basically be like maids nowadays.
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Re: hey, let's have an intellectual discussion yeah?
« Reply #43 on: October 17, 2011, 06:01:03 PM »
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If I was a Southern slave owner I would've been a bro to my slaves. I'd have educated them, maybe given some help with the chores, treat them as family, they'd basically be like maids nowadays.

I would to, except that they wouldn't really be "slaves" anymore

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Re: hey, let's have an intellectual discussion yeah?
« Reply #44 on: October 17, 2011, 06:11:31 PM »
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believe it or not, there were rich families who were like that.
Treated them equally and respected them. Mainly because when they were kids, they were raised by them and grew up to be loving towards them even though their parents werent. They basically got attached when they were young.

Gave them a house and whatever they wanted as long as they stayed with them.

It's pretty nice to know that there were some who were like that.