Serious Discussion: Should California secede from the United States?

[Goat]

What.

California won't be seceding to keep slavery, this is completely different. There will be no Civil War if California Secedes.

oh ya i totly said slavery in my post
the south made lots of money in the 1800s, they made so much they decided to break off, look what happened
there are some simularities when you look at

[Cheesicle]

oh ya i totly said slavery in my post
the south made lots of money in the 1800s, they made so much they decided to break off, look what happened
there are some simularities when you look at

WHAT ERA DO YOU THINK WE LIVE IN?

The US isn't going to go to war with Cali if it declares independence...

[Sabb]

[Deacon]

the only reason the south made so much money
is
because
OF
SLAVERY.

they broke off...because of slavery.

[Cheesicle]

the only reason the south made so much money
is
because
OF
SLAVERY.

they broke off...because of slavery.

THIS IS THE NEED FOR EDUCATION I AM TELLING YOU ABOUT.

THE SOUTH DID NOT SECEDE BECAUSE OF MONEY.

IT WAS BECAUSE OF SLAVERY.

[Deacon]

THIS IS THE NEED FOR EDUCATION I AM TELLING YOU ABOUT.

THE SOUTH DID NOT SECEDE BECAUSE OF MONEY.

IT WAS BECAUSE OF SLAVERY.

Now now, its both.
They made soooo much money as slavery profiteers.
When the north said "hey stop" they said "are you kidding me? go screw yourselves"
also politics happened, then some magic...
i'm fucking tired.

[Cheesicle]

 

Now now, its both.
They made soooo much money as slavery profiteers.
When the north said "hey stop" they said "are you kidding me? go screw yourselves"
also politics happened, then some magic...
i'm fucking tired.

But think realistically.

Do you think the US will go to war with Cali if it seceded?

[Deathie]

> Referring to the "The whole world should be one" thing

Wouldn't it be better to let each nation keep it's own nationality, heritage, customs, all that shit that makes it its own separate country, but also have one global power that controls most of the decisions made?

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What I mean is, wouldn't giving the UN more power be a better move to global peace?

This thread might branch off in two different directions.

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As to the OP, what are the exact numbers?

I mean, Population, state-wide income, ect?

[Deacon]

But think realistically.

Do you think the US will go to war with Cali if it seceded?

I would be more willing to bet that CA will go to war with us first.

[Deathie]

I would be more willing to bet that CA will go to war with us first.

Fuck me. In every RTS, I avoid war by promoting as much economic exchange between states/countries as much as I can ._.

No clue how this works irl. I'm not a politician. I just prefer to find ways both parties can benefit, and try to be a friend instead of a foe.

[ursus]

Fuck me. In every RTS, I avoid war by promoting as much economic exchange between states/countries as much as I can ._.

No clue how this works irl. I'm not a politician. I just prefer to find ways both parties can benefit, and try to be a friend instead of a foe.

I've never heard of an RTS that has economic exchange as a main feature

you sure its not turn based?