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.:`=-~rANdOm~`-=:. Game Servers (Read Only) => Discussion => Topic started by: Cheesicle on July 30, 2011, 03:21:48 PM
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My brother and I was at IHop this morning and we were discussing this topic. It really got me thinking. Should California secede from the United States and become its own country?
I think it should. My reasoning is as follows:
California gives more money to the United States than it receives. Because of this, California has hardly enough to fund programs the people really need such as education. Hell, the freeway outside Baldwin Park has been under renovation for the past 2 years. If California were to secede from the United States, it would have the necessary funds to benefit the people. According to many sources, California would have one of the top economies in the world, if it secedes, of course. On top of that, California is one of the largest producers of agriculture and entertainment. It has the largest population of any State and already has a stable military.
However, I think California would still be involved in the Afghan war alongside America, since a majority of 9/11 victims were Los Angelenos and San Fransiscoians (LOL MY CUSTOM NAMES).
So anyway, what do you think? Should California become it's own country?
If you do not give a shit, please refrain from posting. Kthx.
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I don't think they should...
Why: I have no clue; I just feel CA is good to where it is now...Plus; if CA secedes, mini battles might erupt.
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I don't think they should...
Why: I have no clue; I just feel CA is good to where it is now...Plus; if CA secedes, mini battles might erupt.
Mini battles?
You mean you think California will go to war with the US?
I don't think so
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Hmmm... I guess they could secede from the U.S. since they have enough resources. One thing I question is that will the U.S. put tariffs on the things California exports? Also, the economy of the U.S. might weaken even more if California does give a big portion to them. On top of that, is most/all of the Californians will be willing to secede from the U.S.?
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The state should split, north/south California.
Then, the south starts shit
and the north ends that shit
thus entering the era of
The United State of California, United States of America
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no
its not necessary at all
we don't need to start more shit than we're already in
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The US government is sucking all of California's money.
We're one of the most uneducated states in the US.
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The US government is sucking all of California's money.
We're one of the most uneducated states in the US.
you rely on the federal government for that?
set your own standards
stop lowering them so that you can say "we graduated 1000 students"
at a certain point it comes down to the teachers.
but when the state says "YOU MUST TEACH ________, ___________, ____________, ___________, and ___________ because its on the test", theres not a whole lot of improvement to be made.
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you rely on the federal government for that?
set your own standards
stop lowering them so that you can say "we graduated 1000 students"
at a certain point it comes down to the teachers.
but when the state says "YOU MUST TEACH ________, ___________, ____________, ___________, and ___________ because its on the test", theres not a whole lot of improvement to be made.
Our public schools are some of the shittiest in the world.
The Teachers in public schools are horrible.
Half my friends don't know what countries are in Europe.
WE NEED HELP.
Students are failing left and right, mostly due to a lack of care towards education.
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Sorry man, but from what you are saying, the United States gets a lot of money from California, if they were to stop, the already shitty economy we have right now would be devastated.
There would be more bad effects than good effects.
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IMO the whole world should be one, rather than keep separating.
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IMO the whole world should be one, rather than keep separating.
YES. But sadly, some people don't want to give up power.
And there will forever be oppressive or stupid leaders that cause people to want Independence.
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You know the idea of the whole world as one would requite a mega leader.
A leader of any corruption is the end.
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if they secede then its a civil war all over again, this is the same situation that happened in the 1800s
the south makes tons of money, doesnt get shit from the goverment, they secede and boom, civil war. it will happen again
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if they secede then its a civil war all over again, this is the same situation that happened in the 1800s
the south makes tons of money, doesnt get shit from the goverment, they secede and boom, civil war. it will happen again
What.
California won't be seceding to keep slavery, this is completely different. There will be no Civil War if California Secedes.
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What.
California won't be seceding to keep slavery, this is completely different. There will be no Civil War if California Secedes.
oh ya i totly said slavery in my post
the south made lots of money in the 1800s, they made so much they decided to break off, look what happened
there are some simularities when you look at
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oh ya i totly said slavery in my post
the south made lots of money in the 1800s, they made so much they decided to break off, look what happened
there are some simularities when you look at
WHAT ERA DO YOU THINK WE LIVE IN?
The US isn't going to go to war with Cali if it declares independence...
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the only reason the south made so much money
is
because
OF
SLAVERY.
they broke off...because of slavery.
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the only reason the south made so much money
is
because
OF
SLAVERY.
they broke off...because of slavery.
THIS IS THE NEED FOR EDUCATION I AM TELLING YOU ABOUT.
THE SOUTH DID NOT SECEDE BECAUSE OF MONEY.
IT WAS BECAUSE OF SLAVERY.
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THIS IS THE NEED FOR EDUCATION I AM TELLING YOU ABOUT.
THE SOUTH DID NOT SECEDE BECAUSE OF MONEY.
IT WAS BECAUSE OF SLAVERY.
Now now, its both.
They made soooo much money as slavery profiteers.
When the north said "hey stop" they said "are you kidding me? go screw yourselves"
also politics happened, then some magic...
i'm fucking tired.
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:temperedsword:
Now now, its both.
They made soooo much money as slavery profiteers.
When the north said "hey stop" they said "are you kidding me? go screw yourselves"
also politics happened, then some magic...
i'm fucking tired.
But think realistically.
Do you think the US will go to war with Cali if it seceded?
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> Referring to the "The whole world should be one" thing
Wouldn't it be better to let each nation keep it's own nationality, heritage, customs, all that shit that makes it its own separate country, but also have one global power that controls most of the decisions made?
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What I mean is, wouldn't giving the UN more power be a better move to global peace?
This thread might branch off in two different directions.
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As to the OP, what are the exact numbers?
I mean, Population, state-wide income, ect?
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:temperedsword:
But think realistically.
Do you think the US will go to war with Cali if it seceded?
I would be more willing to bet that CA will go to war with us first.
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I would be more willing to bet that CA will go to war with us first.
Fuck me. In every RTS, I avoid war by promoting as much economic exchange between states/countries as much as I can ._.
No clue how this works irl. I'm not a politician. I just prefer to find ways both parties can benefit, and try to be a friend instead of a foe.
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Fuck me. In every RTS, I avoid war by promoting as much economic exchange between states/countries as much as I can ._.
No clue how this works irl. I'm not a politician. I just prefer to find ways both parties can benefit, and try to be a friend instead of a foe.
I've never heard of an RTS that has economic exchange as a main feature
you sure its not turn based?