I don't know what to think?

[Shawn]

In 2.3 billion years, humans won't be humans and would have evolved into something else :c

But the point is to have a self-sustaining ecosystem. Having to ship water to-and-from would be too much.

I was just saying it would be a temp fix until we figured out how to make a water system... unless we were to bring lots of cacti i can't think of another way to renew water without shipments Lol

[» Magic «]

I was just saying it would be a temp fix until we figured out how to make a water system... unless we were to bring lots of cacti i can't think of another way to renew water without shipments Lol

I don't get how this water shenanigan is going on like this

It's basically an infinite loop

You drink water, you piss it out, it gets cleansed, it gets released again, can be used again

It evaporates, goes into the clouds then rains it down again

You drink pepsi, which has water in it, piss it out, same as before

Infinite water, that's just how I've always seen it, I understand rivers running dry etc, but the water levels would stay the same, that water will have moved elsewhere in the world, such as seas or mountains again, then it starts a different river

Unless anybody can tell me why this theory is incorrect, I would like to see opinions

[Dasadan2]

I don't get how this water shenanigan is going on like this

It's basically an infinite loop

You drink water, you piss it out, it gets cleansed, it gets released again, can be used again

It evaporates, goes into the clouds then rains it down again

You drink pepsi, which has water in it, piss it out, same as before

Infinite water, that's just how I've always seen it, I understand rivers running dry etc, but the water levels would stay the same, that water will have moved elsewhere in the world, such as seas or mountains again, then it starts a different river

Unless anybody can tell me why this theory is incorrect, I would like to see opinions

You make a good point, but I think that people are more worried about the reduce in fresh water and rising salt water.

It's more about the speed of how the salt water can be 'Cleansed' into drinkable fresh water that has people worried.

[Xrain]

I don't get how this water shenanigan is going on like this

It's basically an infinite loop

You drink water, you piss it out, it gets cleansed, it gets released again, can be used again

It evaporates, goes into the clouds then rains it down again

You drink pepsi, which has water in it, piss it out, same as before

Infinite water, that's just how I've always seen it, I understand rivers running dry etc, but the water levels would stay the same, that water will have moved elsewhere in the world, such as seas or mountains again, then it starts a different river

Unless anybody can tell me why this theory is incorrect, I would like to see opinions

Indeed that is true, but cleansing water takes energy. This is provided by the sun and gravity on earth. The sun evaporates the water removing the contaminants lifting it up to the clouds adding a lot of potential energy to the water as well.
The potential energy is stored in the form of the distance from the surface of the earth as when it falls it gravity adds energy to the process. Once it hits the earth it seeps through soils and bedrock to further purify the water.


With enough energy anything is possible. We could even make water from scratch by fusing enough particles together to create oxygen, and then reacting it with hydrogen. This of course is not a very efficient process as to get a cup of water would take an astronomical amount of energy in our terms. But in theory anything is possible.


However your infinite water recirculation idea isn't quite 100% true, as we do lose i microscopic amount of water when its blown off along with a small amount of the atmosphere, as well as whenever we create rocket fuels, in some cases the hydrogen and oxygen is created by splitting up water (electrolyzing).

But rocket fuel is mostly made from natural gas Steam cracking to get hydrogen, and the oxygen is condensed out of the atmosphere 

[» Magic «]

Indeed that is true, but cleansing water takes energy. This is provided by the sun and gravity on earth. The sun evaporates the water removing the contaminants lifting it up to the clouds adding a lot of potential energy to the water as well.
The potential energy is stored in the form of the distance from the surface of the earth as when it falls it gravity adds energy to the process. Once it hits the earth it seeps through soils and bedrock to further purify the water.


With enough energy anything is possible. We could even make water from scratch by fusing enough particles together to create oxygen, and then reacting it with hydrogen. This of course is not a very efficient process as to get a cup of water would take an astronomical amount of energy in our terms. But in theory anything is possible.


However your infinite water recirculation idea isn't quite 100% true, as we do lose i microscopic amount of water when its blown off along with a small amount of the atmosphere, as well as whenever we create rocket fuels, in some cases the hydrogen and oxygen is created by splitting up water (electrolyzing).

But rocket fuel is mostly made from natural gas Steam cracking to get hydrogen, and the oxygen is condensed out of the atmosphere 

Everytime you post I learn something from you lol

Yus I know about electrolyzing, Didn't think about the energy bit though

[Osme]

I don't get how this water shenanigan is going on like this

It's basically an infinite loop

You drink water, you piss it out, it gets cleansed, it gets released again, can be used again

It evaporates, goes into the clouds then rains it down again

You drink pepsi, which has water in it, piss it out, same as before

Infinite water, that's just how I've always seen it, I understand rivers running dry etc, but the water levels would stay the same, that water will have moved elsewhere in the world, such as seas or mountains again, then it starts a different river

Unless anybody can tell me why this theory is incorrect, I would like to see opinions

a tiny % will always break free of atmosphere

[Supertoaster]

If I was going to die I would probably choose the Apocalypse because then I would have the most interesting story to tell in Heaven.

"Yo dude how did you die?"

"Got hit by a bus, man."

"How about you?"

"Heart Attack, how about you?"

"I DIED IN THE MOTHERF***ING APOCALYPSE!"

[Xrain]

If I was going to die I would probably choose the Apocalypse because then I would have the most interesting story to tell in Heaven.

"Yo dude how did you die?"

"Got hit by a bus, man."

"How about you?"

"Heart Attack, how about you?"

"I DIED IN THE MOTHERF***ING APOCALYPSE!"

I take your apocalypse, and raise you a:

Flaming monster-truck off a cliff, running into a low-flying F22 while blasting "Highway to Hell"


Cause there will be 6 Billion + other people who get to claim the Apocalypse death.

[Cheesicle]

If I was going to die I would probably choose the Apocalypse because then I would have the most interesting story to tell in Heaven.

"Yo dude how did you die?"

"Got hit by a bus, man."

"How about you?"

"Heart Attack, how about you?"

"I DIED IN THE MOTHERF***ING APOCALYPSE!"

Better one would be like: "I was the last survivor from Shanghai to make it out alive. I witnessed the city crumbling as I flew off. My plane crash landed in Buckingham Palace where I accidentally killed the Queen. Since London was already in chaos, I didn't face any resistance as I jacked another plane and flew to DC. I made it to the Capital and begged the President to spare my family. Turns out the Government didn't prepare shit and we're all doomed. I died in the same room as Barack Obama, when the statue of Abraham Lincoln from his memorial was washed out and crashed into the Oval Office, smashing me and the President. Then another huge wave came and destroyed the White House."

What a story to tell.

[Xrain]

Better one would be like: "I was the last survivor from Shanghai to make it out alive. I witnessed the city crumbling as I flew off. My plane crash landed in Buckingham Palace where I accidentally killed the Queen. Since London was already in chaos, I didn't face any resistance as I jacked another plane and flew to DC. I made it to the Capital and begged the President to spare my family. Turns out the Government didn't prepare shit and we're all doomed. I died in the same room as Barack Obama, when the statue of Abraham Lincoln from his memorial was washed out and crashed into the Oval Office, smashing me and the President. Then another huge wave came and destroyed the White House."

What a story to tell.

Well, if what nibiru's going to do is anything to go by, it will be more along the line of...

While I was running to my plane, I seen a bright flash on the horizon, my skin melted off, and I sank into the newly molten ground.

[» Magic «]

I take your apocalypse, and raise you a:

Flaming monster-truck off a cliff, running into a low-flying F22 while blasting "Highway to Hell"


Cause there will be 6 Billion + other people who get to claim the Apocalypse death.

Fucking lol

[Bear]

eventually Earth will be destroyed, its just not certain when its gonna happen…
and as there have been said, if there was anything about this big-ass-planet, you dont think it would be public, secrets or no secrets…
theres no data's wich confirms the theory…

even if it should happen, we got a hole shit fuck of nukes which i believe can blow this planet into a shitfuck of pieces…
just to minor the damage that Nibiru might cause…

For now, i'll just say its a spoof… mayans is trolling us

[Xrain]

even if it should happen, we got a hole shit fuck of nukes which i believe can blow this planet into a shitfuck of pieces…
just to minor the damage that Nibiru might cause…

Contrary to popular beleif, nukes dont actually do much to defend against incoming objects.

Considering Nibiru is allegedly a planet, it would pretty much nothing at all to the planet.

Remember this?

So to instantly stop the earth from rotating, it would require a perfectly placed instantaneous transfer of energy into the earth equivalent to a 51,147,227,533,460 Megaton Explosion  To give you perspective, the largest atomic bomb ever Tsar Bomb was 50 Megatons.

That means it would take a 51,147,27,533,460 Megaton explosion just to stop the earth from rotating, and you want to try to move something similarly large?

It would actually be worse, if you were to blow up an incoming asteroid, since it increases the area in which it causes devastation.
Although in the case of Nibiru if something that big hit us it really wouldn't matter if it was in pieces or in whole, we would be toast all the same.


Scientists estimate that the solar system's habitable zone will leave the area around earth in ~1 billion years. So in about a billion years earth will resemble mercury or Venus.

[Supertoaster]

Contrary to popular beleif, nukes dont actually do much to defend against incoming objects.

Considering Nibiru is allegedly a planet, it would pretty much nothing at all to the planet.

Remember this?
That means it would take a 51,147,27,533,460 Megaton explosion just to stop the earth from rotating, and you want to try to move something similarly large?

It would actually be worse, if you were to blow up an incoming asteroid, since it increases the area in which it causes devastation.
Although in the case of Nibiru if something that big hit us it really wouldn't matter if it was in pieces or in whole, we would be toast all the same.


Scientists estimate that the solar system's habitable zone will leave the area around earth in ~1 billion years. So in about a billion years earth will resemble mercury or Venus.

ice on mars melts > water > profit?

[Xrain]

Try more like pluto, or some moons of the gas giants.