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Re: I don't know what to think?
« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2011, 04:46:17 PM »
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All people thought was going to happen was like traffic lights and shit like that would fuck up since the switch over to 00 on the computer clocks since no programmer ever added 4 digits for a clock... which some did so ya... Theres a big difference, and i love how you say "do you remember y2k?" I know i do but i doubt you do. Since you were like what? 3/4 at the time? it wasn't that big of a deal...
Bro he was being sarcastic.

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Re: I don't know what to think?
« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2011, 06:00:53 PM »
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Y2K, 06/06/06... Nothing really happened.. Srsly, the world ain't ending. And if it does, well shit, I'm gon' be real pissed that my mom moved me back to fucking China. I fucking hate this place so damn much, and I'm not spending my last years here with no friends.

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Re: I don't know what to think?
« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2011, 02:40:53 AM »
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Do you remember Y2K? Boy that was a major disaster that destroyed the earth.

No joke.

I have a "Y2K readiness checklist" magnet on my fridge.
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Re: I don't know what to think?
« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2011, 02:51:47 AM »
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meh, I duno if I believe or not I'll see when the time comes, the other thing was that there was meant to be an invasion of UFO on October 31st 2010, never happened

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Re: I don't know what to think?
« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2011, 06:11:57 AM »
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This is just like any other "Classic" conspiracy video that you will find off the internet. This one just happens to be made by an Indian guy.

First of all.

NASA doesn't keep secrets. Their entire structure is designed to be open to the public. Everything they do is shown to the general public, with the exception of a few ITAR (international treaty against arms proliferation) controlled items.


Next are his quotes. He quotes Nostradamus as saying " A BIG OBJECT WILL COME HIT US", way to quote someone there buddy, but no crap something will hit us eventually. That's like saying ITS POSSIBLE THE EARTH WILL ROTATE. Objects have been hitting the earth for billions of years.

The next "Quote" Is from Einstein about pole shifting.

-A large planetary body passing by wouldn't cause the poles to shift. I hope he is referring to the Magnetic North and South pole's which are currently in the process of Swapping polarities. This is determined by magma flow in the earths mantle, and if a passing body did manage to affect the magnetic poles. It wouldn't really matter to use because it would have torn the crust of the earth off or something to that effect.

- Even if a "Pole shift" did take place (which one is taking place at the moment) all that will happen is navigation by compass will become unreliable.

- If hes saying the earth will "start tumbling through space" he needs to  :gtfo: Since the only event with enough kinetic energy would be a direct impact with a massive body, and if that happened Who the Fk' cares if the earth is tumbling, we are all dead anyway.


McMurdo bay would make an absolutely terrible place for an optical observatory. As:
 A: It's covered by clouds and blizzards for most of the year.
 B: A town of 5000 civilian scientists doesn't exactly make a good place for a secret observatory.



So scientists 27 years ago detected a rouge planet traveling the interstellar wastes. And that it returns every 3600 years...

In order for this to be possible it would need to be in a long-period orbit of our sun. Which I suppose theoretically is possible.

Objects in these kinds of orbits tend to travel ~1/6000 the speed of light.

or ~ 50 km/s there are 3,100,000 seconds in a year, so in one year that planet will travel 155,000,000 kilometers. So 27 years ago it was 4,185,000,000 km away, or about 30 AU away (30 times the distance from the earth to the sun.)

Otherwise 27 years ago that planet would be somewhere between Neptune and Pluto. And today the planet would currently be about 3 AU away (Buddy buddy with Jupiter). AKA in both cases we could see it with our naked eye.




To sum up, No the whole Niribu thing is a whole load of bull shit. Using like many other conspiracy theories, Claims that to most people sound good, but to anyone who has any idea of the actual mechanics involved is completely ludicrous.


Here are two very good quote from Wikipedia on the matter.
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Many believers in the imminent approach of Planet X/Nibiru accuse NASA of deliberately covering up visual evidence of its existence.[34] One such accusation involves the IRAS infrared space observatory, launched in 1983. The satellite briefly made headlines due to an "unknown object" that was at first described as "possibly as large as the giant planet Jupiter and possibly so close to Earth that it would be part of this Solar System".[35] This newspaper article has been cited by proponents of the collision idea, beginning with Lieder herself, as evidence for the existence of Nibiru.[36] However, further analysis revealed that of several unidentified objects, nine were distant galaxies and the tenth was "intergalactic cirrus"; none were found to be Solar System bodies.[37]

Another accusation frequently made by websites predicting the collision is that the US government built the South Pole Telescope to track Nibiru's trajectory, and that the object has been imaged optically.[38] However, the SPT (which is not funded by NASA) is a radio telescope, and cannot take optical images. Its South Pole location was chosen due to the low-humidity environment, and there is no way an approaching object could be seen only from the South Pole.[39] The "picture" of Nibiru posted on YouTube was revealed to in fact be a Hubble image of the expanding gas shell around the star V838 Mon.[38]

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The impact of the public fear of the Nibiru collision has been especially felt by professional astronomers. Mike Brown now says that Nibiru is the most common pseudoscientific topic he is asked about.[31]

David Morrison, director of SETI, CSI Fellow and Senior Scientist at NASA's Astrobiology Institute at Ames Research Center, says he receives 20–25 emails a week about the impending arrival of Nibiru; some frightened, others angry and naming him as part of the conspiracy to keep the truth of the impending apocalypse from the public, and still others asking whether or not they should kill themselves, their children or their pets.[34][40] Half of these emails are from outside the US.[12] "Planetary scientists are being driven to distraction by Nibiru," notes science writer Govert Schilling, "And it is not surprising; you devote so much time, energy and creativity to fascinating scientific research, and find yourself on the tracks of the most amazing and interesting things, and all the public at large is concerned about is some crackpot theory about clay tablets, god-astronauts and a planet that doesn't exist."[1] Morrison states that he hopes that the non-arrival of Nibiru could serve as a teaching moment for the public, instructing them on 'rational thought and baloney detection', but doubts that will happen.[34]

Morrison noted in a lecture recorded on FORA.tv that there was a huge disconnect between the massive number of people on the internet who believed in Nibiru's arrival in 2012 and the majority of scientists who have never heard of it. To date he is the only major NASA scientist to speak out regularly against the Nibiru phenomenon.[40]

A viral marketing campaign for Sony Pictures' 2009 film 2012, directed by Roland Emmerich, which depicts the end of the world in that year, featured a supposed warning from the "Institute for Human Continuity" that listed the arrival of Planet X as one of its doomsday scenarios.[41] Mike Brown attributes a spike in concerned emails and phone calls he received from the public to this site.[26]

My personal favorite part of that movie is where it says the earth will stop rotating for 4 days.

The earth has a rotation inertia of 2.14×10^29 J. or 214,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 J a Megaton explosion has 4,184,000,000,000,000 J

So to instantly stop the earth from rotating, it would require a perfectly placed instantaneous transfer of energy into the earth equivalent to a 51,147,227,533,460 Megaton Explosion  :D To give you perspective, the largest atomic bomb ever Tsar Bomb was 50 Megatons.

The explosion that killed the dinosaurs was 100,000,000 Megatons.


All of the "preceeding events" leading up to the impact outlined by the film would have killed the planet a billion times over.
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Re: I don't know what to think?
« Reply #20 on: February 04, 2011, 06:40:39 AM »
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This is just like any other "Classic" conspiracy video that you will find off the internet. This one just happens to be made by an Indian guy.

First of all.

NASA doesn't keep secrets. Their entire structure is designed to be open to the public. Everything they do is shown to the general public, with the exception of a few ITAR (international treaty against arms proliferation) controlled items.


Next are his quotes. He quotes Nostradamus as saying " A BIG OBJECT WILL COME HIT US", way to quote someone there buddy, but no crap something will hit us eventually. That's like saying ITS POSSIBLE THE EARTH WILL ROTATE. Objects have been hitting the earth for billions of years.

The next "Quote" Is from Einstein about pole shifting.

-A large planetary body passing by wouldn't cause the poles to shift. I hope he is referring to the Magnetic North and South pole's which are currently in the process of Swapping polarities. This is determined by magma flow in the earths mantle, and if a passing body did manage to affect the magnetic poles. It wouldn't really matter to use because it would have torn the crust of the earth off or something to that effect.

- Even if a "Pole shift" did take place (which one is taking place at the moment) all that will happen is navigation by compass will become unreliable.

- If hes saying the earth will "start tumbling through space" he needs to  :gtfo: Since the only event with enough kinetic energy would be a direct impact with a massive body, and if that happened Who the Fk' cares if the earth is tumbling, we are all dead anyway.


McMurdo bay would make an absolutely terrible place for an optical observatory. As:
 A: It's covered by clouds and blizzards for most of the year.
 B: A town of 5000 civilian scientists doesn't exactly make a good place for a secret observatory.



So scientists 27 years ago detected a rouge planet traveling the interstellar wastes. And that it returns every 3600 years...

In order for this to be possible it would need to be in a long-period orbit of our sun. Which I suppose theoretically is possible.

Objects in these kinds of orbits tend to travel ~1/6000 the speed of light.

or ~ 50 km/s there are 3,100,000 seconds in a year, so in one year that planet will travel 155,000,000 kilometers. So 27 years ago it was 4,185,000,000 km away, or about 30 AU away (30 times the distance from the earth to the sun.)

Otherwise 27 years ago that planet would be somewhere between Neptune and Pluto. And today the planet would currently be about 3 AU away (Buddy buddy with Jupiter). AKA in both cases we could see it with our naked eye.




To sum up, No the whole Niribu thing is a whole load of bull shit. Using like many other conspiracy theories, Claims that to most people sound good, but to anyone who has any idea of the actual mechanics involved is completely ludicrous.


Here are two very good quote from Wikipedia on the matter.
and

My personal favorite part of that movie is where it says the earth will stop rotating for 4 days.

The earth has a rotation inertia of 2.14×10^29 J. or 214,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 J a Megaton explosion has 4,184,000,000,000,000 J

So to instantly stop the earth from rotating, it would require a perfectly placed instantaneous transfer of energy into the earth equivalent to a 51,147,227,533,460 Megaton Explosion  :D To give you perspective, the largest atomic bomb ever Tsar Bomb was 50 Megatons.

The explosion that killed the dinosaurs was 100,000,000 Megatons.


All of the "preceeding events" leading up to the impact outlined by the film would have killed the planet a billion times over.

How the fuck are you failing in school

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Re: I don't know what to think?
« Reply #21 on: February 04, 2011, 06:44:06 AM »
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How the fuck are you failing in school
I spend all my time calculating crap like this.  :-[
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Re: I don't know what to think?
« Reply #22 on: February 04, 2011, 06:49:26 AM »
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I spend all my time calculating crap like this.  :-[

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Re: I don't know what to think?
« Reply #23 on: February 04, 2011, 08:52:04 AM »
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This is just like any other "Classic" conspiracy video that you will find off the internet. This one just happens to be made by an Indian guy.

First of all.

NASA doesn't keep secrets. Their entire structure is designed to be open to the public. Everything they do is shown to the general public, with the exception of a few ITAR (international treaty against arms proliferation) controlled items.


Next are his quotes. He quotes Nostradamus as saying " A BIG OBJECT WILL COME HIT US", way to quote someone there buddy, but no crap something will hit us eventually. That's like saying ITS POSSIBLE THE EARTH WILL ROTATE. Objects have been hitting the earth for billions of years.

The next "Quote" Is from Einstein about pole shifting.

-A large planetary body passing by wouldn't cause the poles to shift. I hope he is referring to the Magnetic North and South pole's which are currently in the process of Swapping polarities. This is determined by magma flow in the earths mantle, and if a passing body did manage to affect the magnetic poles. It wouldn't really matter to use because it would have torn the crust of the earth off or something to that effect.

- Even if a "Pole shift" did take place (which one is taking place at the moment) all that will happen is navigation by compass will become unreliable.

- If hes saying the earth will "start tumbling through space" he needs to  :gtfo: Since the only event with enough kinetic energy would be a direct impact with a massive body, and if that happened Who the Fk' cares if the earth is tumbling, we are all dead anyway.


McMurdo bay would make an absolutely terrible place for an optical observatory. As:
 A: It's covered by clouds and blizzards for most of the year.
 B: A town of 5000 civilian scientists doesn't exactly make a good place for a secret observatory.



So scientists 27 years ago detected a rouge planet traveling the interstellar wastes. And that it returns every 3600 years...

In order for this to be possible it would need to be in a long-period orbit of our sun. Which I suppose theoretically is possible.

Objects in these kinds of orbits tend to travel ~1/6000 the speed of light.

or ~ 50 km/s there are 3,100,000 seconds in a year, so in one year that planet will travel 155,000,000 kilometers. So 27 years ago it was 4,185,000,000 km away, or about 30 AU away (30 times the distance from the earth to the sun.)

Otherwise 27 years ago that planet would be somewhere between Neptune and Pluto. And today the planet would currently be about 3 AU away (Buddy buddy with Jupiter). AKA in both cases we could see it with our naked eye.




To sum up, No the whole Niribu thing is a whole load of bull shit. Using like many other conspiracy theories, Claims that to most people sound good, but to anyone who has any idea of the actual mechanics involved is completely ludicrous.


Here are two very good quote from Wikipedia on the matter.
and

My personal favorite part of that movie is where it says the earth will stop rotating for 4 days.

The earth has a rotation inertia of 2.14×10^29 J. or 214,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 J a Megaton explosion has 4,184,000,000,000,000 J

So to instantly stop the earth from rotating, it would require a perfectly placed instantaneous transfer of energy into the earth equivalent to a 51,147,227,533,460 Megaton Explosion  :D To give you perspective, the largest atomic bomb ever Tsar Bomb was 50 Megatons.

The explosion that killed the dinosaurs was 100,000,000 Megatons.


All of the "preceeding events" leading up to the impact outlined by the film would have killed the planet a billion times over.

Very nice explanation bro, I see truth now :D

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Re: I don't know what to think?
« Reply #24 on: February 04, 2011, 09:27:07 AM »
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damn xrain you got that shit like perfectly correct! :D Im in love with astronomy so I can definately concur with everything you have said. That video was such as load. A plante coming in between the sun and us causing us to "reform." I feel bad for smaller planets that are in the path like mercury.

Ohh and btw people lived 3600 yrs ago unless all of science and archeology are incorrect....... Sooooo did 2/3 of them die?

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Re: I don't know what to think?
« Reply #25 on: February 04, 2011, 10:08:31 AM »
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damn xrain you got that shit like perfectly correct! :D Im in love with astronomy so I can definately concur with everything you have said. That video was such as load. A plante coming in between the sun and us causing us to "reform." I feel bad for smaller planets that are in the path like mercury.

Ohh and btw people lived 3600 yrs ago unless all of science and archeology are incorrect....... Sooooo did 2/3 of them die?

Would explain the current population...

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Re: I don't know what to think?
« Reply #26 on: February 04, 2011, 10:16:49 AM »
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I understand the world will poof at some point in life.


But ... I hope it doesn't in our lifetime :(( It may not be 2012 or 2013 or 2015 or anytime soon - I just hope it won't be 2050 or anytime I'm still alive roaming this earth..
Let's just say I hope it's not in our generation - for fucks sake.


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Re: I don't know what to think?
« Reply #27 on: February 04, 2011, 10:25:28 AM »
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I understand the world will poof at some point in life.


But ... I hope it doesn't in our lifetime :(( It may not be 2012 or 2013 or 2015 or anytime soon - I just hope it won't be 2050 or anytime I'm still alive roaming this earth..
Let's just say I hope it's not in our generation - for fucks sake.

The Earth will still be inhabitable for the next (I think it's 2.3 billion) years. By then, we won't even be humans. We most likely would evolve into something else. Maybe in the next few hundred years, we can even start the colonization of other planets. All you need is a renewable oxygen and water source, and a method to go to and from.


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Re: I don't know what to think?
« Reply #28 on: February 04, 2011, 10:35:51 AM »
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The Earth will still be inhabitable for the next (I think it's 2.3 billion) years. By then, we won't even be humans. We most likely would evolve into something else. Maybe in the next few hundred years, we can even start the colonization of other planets. All you need is a renewable oxygen and water source, and a method to go to and from.

in 2.3 billion years and we still don't have a moon/mars base we might aswell just kill ourselfs!

In fact we could make a moon base now... but i don't see that happening anytime soon...

renewable oxygen wouldn't be hard to get since you could always plant wildlife in the base. for oxygen and since the moon is close enough you can send up shipments of water and for mars theres suppose to be water under the surface so that problem is solved right there Lol

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Re: I don't know what to think?
« Reply #29 on: February 04, 2011, 10:39:43 AM »
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in 2.3 billion years and we still don't have a moon/mars base we might aswell just kill ourselfs!

In fact we could make a moon base now... but i don't see that happening anytime soon...

renewable oxygen wouldn't be hard to get since you could always plant wildlife in the base. for oxygen and since the moon is close enough you can send up shipments of water and for mars theres suppose to be water under the surface so that problem is solved right there Lol

In 2.3 billion years, humans won't be humans and would have evolved into something else :c

But the point is to have a self-sustaining ecosystem. Having to ship water to-and-from would be too much.


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