A Way To Get People To Stop Bitching...

[Jman]

... about the New Karma System would be making it so you gain karma for killing innocents as Traitor.

I already made a thread abouth this in suggestions and decided it is time to go in requests.
http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,1715.0.html

In that thread examples were given, one of which I scored 10 kills as a Traitor and still only got the normal karma boost.

This can be something as small as 5 additional karma per innocent kill and 10 additional karma per detective or something like that.

tl;dr: It would make everyone's life easier if Traitors got karma for killing innocents.

[Frank]

Each kill = 40-150 karma

[Rocket50]

You could've just bumped the other thread instead of  making a new one to link to the other one

[Jman]

Each kill = 40-150 karma

I mean AS traitor KILLING innocents

You could've just bumped the other thread instead of  making a new one to link to the other one

well I believe it belongs in requests at this point.

[Frank]

I mean AS traitor KILLING innocents
well I believe it belongs in requests at this point.

Oh fucking really.
That's exactly what I'm saying. I'm just saying the numbers.

[Jman]

Oh fucking really.
That's exactly what I'm saying. I'm just saying the numbers.

why would you gain 30-150 that would make it completely imbalenced.

I don't see how +5 for inno and +10 for det would hurt 

[Frank]

why would you gain 30-150 that would make it completely imbalenced.

I don't see how +5 for inno and +10 for det would hurt 

OH GREAT YOU'RE A MOTHERFUCKING AWESOME TRAITOR AND MURDER EVERYONE.


EEEEVERYONE.

11 PEOPLE.

And you get 100 karma.

[ItchyDani3l]

Listen up, bitches.

The reason that killing innocents as traitor does not make your karma go up is because people who RDM all of the time will just replenish their karma when they're traitor.

The system is fine the way it is. You just have to be more careful now. Instead of killing anyone you want, you just have to be more careful now.

Unless you want more RDMers on RND, I highly suggest you guys just accept the new karma system.

[Don]

Listen up, bitches.

The reason that killing innocents as traitor does not make your karma go up is because people who RDM all of the time will just replenish their karma when they're traitor.

The system is fine the way it is. You just have to be more careful now. Instead of killing anyone you want, you just have to be more careful now.

Unless you want more RDMers on RND, I highly suggest you guys just accept the new karma system.

Couldn't say it any better.

[Deathie]

Listen up, bitches.

The reason that killing innocents as traitor does not make your karma go up is because people who RDM all of the time will just replenish their karma when they're traitor.

The system is fine the way it is. You just have to be more careful now. Instead of killing anyone you want, you just have to be more careful now.

Unless you want more RDMers on RND, I highly suggest you guys just accept the new karma system.

Thing is, if you're a RDMer, chances are, your karma's too low to even kill anyone. Most likely, you'll just get a single knife kill.
The point of gaining karma for kills as T, is if you have a perfect 1000, and you accidentally shoot at someone, or make a single mistake, which brings it down to 600, not those fags who run around with 10 karma.

[Jman]

Thing is, if you're a RDMer, chances are, your karma's too low to even kill anyone. Most likely, you'll just get a single knife kill.
The point of gaining karma for kills as T, is if you have a perfect 1000, and you accidentally shoot at someone, or make a single mistake, which brings it down to 600, not those fags who run around with 10 karma.

couldn't have said it ANY better myself. When i killed those 10 innocents i had 715 karma. i gained the normal amount and was so pissed lol.

Listen up, bitches.

The reason that killing innocents as traitor does not make your karma go up is because people who RDM all of the time will just replenish their karma when they're traitor.

The system is fine the way it is. You just have to be more careful now. Instead of killing anyone you want, you just have to be more careful now.

Unless you want more RDMers on RND, I highly suggest you guys just accept the new karma system.

Even with what deathward said, why is it SUCH a problem to let people gain 5-10 karma per kill. I mean for fucks sakes just because you are a goodie two shoes and don't shoot anybody ever even if they shoot you first doesn't mean people don't accidentally lose karma.

There ARE multiple ways to lose karma without rdming. Examples are an inno walking in front when shooting a T, an inno shooting you first, and seeing an innocent kill another inno then killing him.

TL;DR: Gaining 5-10 karma per kill as a T is beneficial and has no downsides and there ARE ways to lose karma without "going and killing everyone you see".

[Sabb]

I say Jman has a good suggestion, 10 karma for each kill as a traitor would be great.
So, Daniel, your logic is horribly flawed.
If you're an rdmer, you're going to have low karma... and you'll only be able to kill one MAYBE two innocents from using a knife. Then they would only gain 40 karma that round instead of 30. Still not much of a help for rdmers.

[ItchyDani3l]

You guys don't get it.

Okay, theorhetical situation, guise.

There are 5 players, faggot A, faggot B, faggot C, faggot D, and faggot E

Round 1:

All 5 faggots start with 1000 karma.
faggot A kills everyone (INCLUDING ONE TRAITOR) and is knocked down to 200 karma (or whatever)
INNOCENTS WIN! :3

Round 2:

faggot A is detective this time.
faggots B, C, D, and E are all pissed off.
faggot C is traitor, and he is plotting to kill faggot A.
faggot A starts killing people, and noone shoots back... except faggot C.
faggot A kills faggots B and C, after faggots D and E escaped.
INNOCENTS WIN

Round 3:

faggot A is a traitor this time, but he starts with only 150 karma.
At this point, everyone is pissed, including Console
faggot A manages to knife faggot D.
faggots B, C, and E rape faggot A and then teabag him.
Because faggot A didn't team kill anyone, he gains 50 karma. Also, since he killed an innocent, he manages to gain another 100 karma.
faggot A has 300 karma.
INNOCENTS WIN

Round 4:
faggot A only finds a pistol.
faggot A gets butteraped by faggot B, who loses 250 karma because he was innocent xD.
faggot D was traitor, and he buttrapes everyone by claiming that faggot B is a traitor.
TRAITORS WIN.
Oh yeah, and faggot A gets 50 more karma.

Round 5:
faggot A gets lucky!
faggot A accidentally kills the traitor (with his 350 karma, 75% reduced damage combined with 2 sniper headshots).
faggots B, D, and E are pissed off.
INNOCENTS WIN!


TL;DR?
RDMers will gain karma very fast using this system.
They will basically kill at least one traitor if they randomly RDM people with high enough karma.
They will not be attacked while detective unless it's by a traitor... who they'll kill anyway.
They will gain karma for each innocent they kill??? I don't think they should.

--> Basically, if we do this, it will help RDMers kill MORE innocents (and possibly traitors) when they are innocent <--

[Jman]

--> Basically, if we do this, it will help RDMers kill MORE innocents (and possibly traitors) when they are innocent <--

i still don't see where you are getting this and how that is relevant in any means possible.

[Sabb]

Noep...
You're basing that off of what Frank suggested, but me and Jman only want up to 10 karma for each innocent kill as a traitor.
Also, you only gain 30 karma per round if you don't harm anyone.
In your example, the rdmer would have still had shit karma if you gained 10 karma per innocent kill as a traitor.