TTT Bug fix/Dev thread

[coolzeldad]

Shop menu is G for now, or you can bind "impulse 201" to a key... might have better options later

[Deathie]

Apparently, reds weren't spawning naturally.

RNG calcs now take into account "0" values that were the red stats, and the weighting has been adjusted to suit.

You should start seeing Red attributes on guns, albeit pretty rarely.

I want to re-do the attachment system, any suggestions? People seem to not be fond of them being RNG controlled and not being able to remove/change them.

[HideoKojima]

Apparently, reds weren't spawning naturally.

RNG calcs now take into account "0" values that were the red stats, and the weighting has been adjusted to suit.

You should start seeing Red attributes on guns, albeit pretty rarely.

I want to re-do the attachment system, any suggestions? People seem to not be fond of them being RNG controlled and not being able to remove/change them.

"Apparently, reds weren't spawning naturally."
I knew it!

"I want to re-do the attachment system, any suggestions? People seem to not be fond of them being RNG controlled and not being able to remove/change them."
I kinda like the randomness, this is random after all.

[ursus]

Apparently, reds weren't spawning naturally.

RNG calcs now take into account "0" values that were the red stats, and the weighting has been adjusted to suit.

You should start seeing Red attributes on guns, albeit pretty rarely.

I want to re-do the attachment system, any suggestions? People seem to not be fond of them being RNG controlled and not being able to remove/change them.

attachment store for innocents pls

or yomocoin attachment shop even though i have no idea how those things work or how you get them

my vague ideas in order of how bad they are from worst to worst:

1. kill traitor > get point > go to point store > buy silencer/scope/some kind of weapon upgrade
2. be in top ~33% or so of scoring players > get all scopes unlocked for all weapons; be top scoring player > get silencers unlocked for all guns
3. kill traitor > get point > go to point store > buy guaranteed higher quality drop of your current weapon (maybe 1 tier per credit, so with 3 credits you could upgrade blue > purp > orange > red etc)

also let traitors buy more silenced weapons, I noticed that we're still using the default ttt swep with the usp skin

[HideoKojima]

The speed boost doesn't work. RIP coins.

[blαh2355]

I want to re-do the attachment system, any suggestions? People seem to not be fond of them being RNG controlled and not being able to remove/change them.

Keep the RNG but make it so that the attachments are detachable. Wish the models on the ground accurately represented the attachments the gun would have.

attachment store for innocents pls

or yomocoin attachment shop even though i have no idea how those things work or how you get them

This would be nice. Maybe even have the attachments go to a player's inventory that's saved on the server and you can attach/detach any compatible ones? Also if you use an attachment from your inventory/shop it's considered consumed at the end of the round?

[Deathie]

Keep the RNG but make it so that the attachments are detachable. Wish the models on the ground accurately represented the attachments the gun would have.

At some point I plan to go through and re-assign CSS models to more accurately represent the weapons. The pump shotgun for instance uses the XM1014 gun model.

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It's actually totally possible to have the world models have the attachments. The attachments are seperate models that just become parented to the view models when you equip them.

It's not a hard thing to do, it'd just be tedious to set up the positioning for EVERY guns world model, and just be a little time consuming.

The real issue comes from the fact that there's no low LOD versions of the attachments, and it could impact peoples framerates pretty dramatically if they have to render a bunch of attachments on a bunch of guns.

This would be nice. Maybe even have the attachments go to a player's inventory that's saved on the server and you can attach/detach any compatible ones? Also if you use an attachment from your inventory/shop it's considered consumed at the end of the round?

That kind of stuff is also possible, I just don't have access to the points shop and can't really add any additional functionality to it.

[[Valor]iPounce]

Weapons glowing at the same time drops fps.

[Deathie]

Weapons glowing at the same time drops fps.

You can disable weapon glows in the F1 menu.

[Monorail Cat]

1) The mechanic where it's possible to shoot through walls is kinda irritating sometimes. For example, when there's a traitor in a traitor room, the innocents can fire away and maybe kill him.  There are other instances where it can be annoying, like when the traitor is trying to get away and closed a door to a hallway, but someone sprays through the door and gets him.  I suggest either strongly nerf the damage guns do through walls, or completely remove the mechanic.

2) The M24 sniper rifle (I think that's what it is) was very awful for me today.  I was standing still, and shot at someone's head, and it missed.  I made several more shots while standing completely still, and not a single one hit.  I don't know if it was a latency issue, but those were definitely shots that should have been hits.

[ursus]

2) The M24 sniper rifle (I think that's what it is) was very awful for me today.  I was standing still, and shot at someone's head, and it missed.  I made several more shots while standing completely still, and not a single one hit.  I don't know if it was a latency issue, but those were definitely shots that should have been hits.

i think this is just ping + tickrate + old hitboxes combined

also:

1) The mechanic where it's possible to shoot through walls is kinda irritating sometimes. For example, when there's a traitor in a traitor room, the innocents can fire away and maybe kill him.  There are other instances where it can be annoying, like when the traitor is trying to get away and closed a door to a hallway, but someone sprays through the door and gets him.  I suggest either strongly nerf the damage guns do through walls, or completely remove the mechanic.

when there's a traitor in a traitor room, the traitor can also shoot through one-sided windows and actually be able to aim while innocents just see bullets flying out of the wall

it goes both ways, if someone can shoot you through a wall you can also shoot them back; considering that traitor rooms are the only places in ttt maps with one-sided windows the mechanic is inherently biased in favor of traitors

you dont see people posting in csgo forums like "yeah bullet penetration is really OP i closed a door behind me and they were still able to shoot me through the door which is kind of stupid"

so, it sounds to me like you lost a traitor round because you got shot through walls and you don't want to admit that you could have done better so it's the game's fault

that being said i actually think that penetrating bullets do too much damage after having been killed through a wall in 2 hits with an m21 (the weakest of the snipers) but it seems like you're just a little tiny bit mad

[๖Ϝцzsioᴎ]

i think this is just ping + tickrate + old hitboxes combined

also:

when there's a traitor in a traitor room, the traitor can also shoot through one-sided windows and actually be able to aim while innocents just see bullets flying out of the wall

it goes both ways, if someone can shoot you through a wall you can also shoot them back; considering that traitor rooms are the only places in ttt maps with one-sided windows the mechanic is inherently biased in favor of traitors

you dont see people posting in csgo forums like "yeah bullet penetration is really OP i closed a door behind me and they were still able to shoot me through the door which is kind of stupid"

so, it sounds to me like you lost a traitor round because you got shot through walls and you don't want to admit that you could have done better so it's the game's fault

that being said i actually think that penetrating bullets do too much damage after having been killed through a wall in 2 hits with an m21 (the weakest of the snipers) but it seems like you're just a little tiny bit mad

One way windows are extremely op though, T can see innos while innos cant see shit and have to pray, it's stupid.

[ursus]

One way windows are extremely op though, T can see innos while innos cant see shit and have to pray, it's stupid.

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[Monorail Cat]

i think this is just ping + tickrate + old hitboxes combined

I had a pretty low ping, and like I said, we were both still, so it definitely should have hit (assuming the sniper rifles have high accuracy when stationary)

when there's a traitor in a traitor room, the traitor can also shoot through one-sided windows and actually be able to aim while innocents just see bullets flying out of the wall

it goes both ways, if someone can shoot you through a wall you can also shoot them back; considering that traitor rooms are the only places in ttt maps with one-sided windows the mechanic is inherently biased in favor of traitors

As I said, there are other instances where this is a problem.  On crummycradle tonight, there was a rather large problem with the one-way glass window room, because whoever is in there could easily shoot anyone he saw.  Now yes, the innos can see the tracers and shoot back, but it's very difficult.  The person could strafe unpredictably, so each time the inno shoots back, the person is already moved away.  Think of it like strafing and spraying through smoke in CS:GO.  If you could see through the smoke but the others couldn't, it would be an ENORMOUS advantage for you, because there's no way they can predict where you'll be just by seeing a tracer.  Another case is that if the person in the 1-way glass room had a high-damage sniper rifle, he wouldn't be constantly shooting; he could move, shoot, move, shoot, etc. until the person outside was dead.  There's no way for the person outside to guess where he is. 

I stand firmly by my request that the penetration damage on all guns is either SIGNIFICANTLY nerfed, or better yet, completely removed. 

[Cable]

I had a pretty low ping, and like I said, we were both still, so it definitely should have hit (assuming the sniper rifles have high accuracy when stationary)


As I said, there are other instances where this is a problem.  On crummycradle tonight, there was a rather large problem with the one-way glass window room, because whoever is in there could easily shoot anyone he saw.  Now yes, the innos can see the tracers and shoot back, but it's very difficult.  The person could strafe unpredictably, so each time the inno shoots back, the person is already moved away.  Think of it like strafing and spraying through smoke in CS:GO.  If you could see through the smoke but the others couldn't, it would be an ENORMOUS advantage for you, because there's no way they can predict where you'll be just by seeing a tracer.  Another case is that if the person in the 1-way glass room had a high-damage sniper rifle, he wouldn't be constantly shooting; he could move, shoot, move, shoot, etc. until the person outside was dead.  There's no way for the person outside to guess where he is. 

I stand firmly by my request that the penetration damage on all guns is either SIGNIFICANTLY nerfed, or better yet, completely removed.

I like the penetration and don't think it should be changed only because a few maps have one-way windows. If a traitor is shooting you through one, i'd recommend avoiding the area entirely.

Also I'd like to mention that if there was an aimbotter on the server, we have no first person spectate option available. Without that, it's tough to really be sure someone is using aim assistance unless they're blatantly doing 180 snap headshots or w/e.