Why all the hate on gays? [SERIOUS FUCKING THREAD]

[Frank]

I think some people have confused feminists with what I like to call... hembrist. You see, "macho" and "hembra" are the equivalente of man and woman in the animal kingdom, so if machists are those who think men are better/deserve better, hembrists should be the opposite.

[Sabb]

Sure it can be, even if they are "born" gay, they still choose whether or not to act out on their homosexuality or, "coming out of the closet"

It can be but from what I know the majority of people that are actually gay are simply wired that way and that's all there is to it. As in, a psychological aspect that a person doesn't really have control over. So you saying that they choose to act on their sexuality is kind of... illogical in my opinion. That's like saying that straight people make the choice to act on their sexuality. I mean sure they act on their sexuality by having intercourse or some sort of intimate relationship or w.e of course but there's obviously nothing wrong with that, and they're still not making the conscious decision on their sexuality either just the same as I don't think some homosexuals do. I really don't think it's fair to say that they shouldn't express their sexuality because what are they supposed to do then? Sit around on their own, not dare to think of any intimate relationship because their sexuality isn't "normal?" Though, I'm not talking about every gay person actually. I do think a lot of people just go through a phase or something and that can be for many reasons so those obviously aren't the people I'm talking about. I'm also not sure exactly what you mean by you disagreeing with it. Not sure if you mean their choice or just certain people or homosexuality in general but if you're saying that you disagree with them acting on their sexuality then why shouldn't they? If you're going to say that, then I think it's fair to say that no one should despite what their sexuality might be whether that's a choice made by them or not.

I can agree with what you're saying about certain gay people though. Those are the ones that I usually don't think of as a true homosexual though. That's the person I think that is only a "homosexual" for a phase for attention usually, and that's most likely a choice for them which they will eventually venture away from. At least that's how I see it. But no offence, I don't see how it's anyone's right to judge homosexuality in a sweeping generalization as "right" or "wrong." Nor is it necessary. It simply exists and I think it's best to keep it that way and not openly judge and criticise something that we really know nothing about.

I don't mean to sound aggressive or to accusatory of you or anyone btw. I just like these kind of discussions/debates when they're actually done right. It's very interesting to see what people think of this kind of stuff and how they deal with it. The only reason I'm even posting this is because there's clearly at least someone showing interest in discussing the topic appropriately so it might spark some decent discussion or ideas or something. Though I definitely didn't plan to after seeing the title and some of the posts lol.

[Prox]

I can agree with what you're saying about certain gay people though. Those are the ones that I usually don't think of as a true homosexual though. That's the person I think that is only a "homosexual" for a phase for attention usually, and that's most likely a choice for them which they will eventually venture away from. At least that's how I see it. But no offence, I don't see how it's anyone's right to judge homosexuality in a sweeping generalization as "right" or "wrong." Nor is it necessary. It simply exists and I think it's best to keep it that way and not openly judge and criticise something that we really know nothing about.

I think that saying that homosexuality is right or wrong is everyone's personal choice and opinion, but it is still considered as being different and being different does have some restrictions in our world, for example expressing their sexuality in public, people would definitely react different to homosexuals then straight people. Now whether it is allowed or not to express it is up to the laws that apply in the country.

[Cariad†]

One of my best friends is a homosexual transgender.

People who don't like homosexuality are the ones are either Bible bangers, Homo phobics or just general dicks.
Hell my best friend is bisexual.

[Prox]

One of my best friends is a homosexual transgender.

People who don't like homosexuality are the ones are either Bible bangers, Homo phobics or just general dicks.
Hell my best friend is bisexual.

I don't like homosexuality but I don't think I would have any problems tolerating a homosexual if he wouldn't act like a complete idiot.

[Frank]

When people say "I'm okay with X as long as they don't Y", do they ever think that of people like them?
Or is it okay for those to have the things that bother you from the others?

I'm saying this because
>I don't like homosexuality but I don't think I would have any problems tolerating a homosexual if he wouldn't act like a complete idiot.
leads me to believe that he wouldn't tolerate a homosexual person if they were idiots, but if they were straight it'd be no problem.

Don't take this as an attack, this is just my interpretation and I like truly understanding people.

[Prox]

When people say "I'm okay with X as long as they don't Y", do they ever think that of people like them?
Or is it okay for those to have the things that bother you from the others?

I'm saying this because
>I don't like homosexuality but I don't think I would have any problems tolerating a homosexual if he wouldn't act like a complete idiot.
leads me to believe that he wouldn't tolerate a homosexual person if they were idiots, but if they were straight it'd be no problem.

Don't take this as an attack, this is just my interpretation and I like truly understanding people.

Yeah, I should have been more clear on that lol, I wouldn't tolerate idiots regardless of what sexuality they are.

[CodeKyuubi]

One of my best friends is a homosexual transgender.

People who don't like homosexuality are the ones are either Bible bangers, Homo phobics or just general dicks.
Hell my best friend is bisexual.

As I mentioned before, this statement is outrageously false because actual "Bible bangers" are supposed to know that they're not supposed to hate anyone, they're supposed to hate the sin and love the sinner. "Christians" who, despite this mandate, go out and try to hate homosexuals are going against the very teachings that are written in the Bible.

I understand that there are many ignorant "Christians" out there (Who don't actually read the bible, much less go to church), but it still grates on me when people make completely false statements regarding the religion itself based on the actions of its so-called adherents. From my experience, there are a little over two mentions of homosexuality in the Bible, and though the Bible condemns homosexuality as an act of depravity and as a sin, so are many other things in life.

That's why I believe it's wrong for people, much less Christians to hate homosexuality, as it is "just another sin," and as with other sins, we need to make an effort to accept homosexuals, teach them why we believe it's wrong, and help them repress those sinful urges, should they choose to accept the religion (Seeing as it also says in the Bible not to force your views and beliefs on other people, but to prove by example).

I've been acquainted with several homosexuals myself, and they were pretty cool people (I actually didn't even know they were homosexual until I was told so).

[YomoFox]

i think same thingy ( i mean hateing ) happen to furrys

[Frank]

i think same thingy ( i mean hateing ) happen to furrys

Well, everything diffirent usually is hated at first. But furries are VERY different.

[HideoKojima]

Well, everything diffirent usually is hated at first. But furries are VERY different.

I agree. The furry thing is a very different thing. It follows more of "wanting to be unique" thing and fetish(although a lot will say it isn't a fetish)

The furry thing is something I will never understand... I just don't get it.

[Frank]

I agree. The furry thing is a very different thing. It follows more of "wanting to be unique" thing and fetish(although a lot will say it isn't a fetish)

The furry thing is something I will never understand... I just don't get it.

For somes, such as me, it's just a fetish. For others, it's a lifestyle. It's exactly the same with BDSM culture.

[HideoKojima]

For somes, such as me, it's just a fetish. For others, it's a lifestyle. It's exactly the same with BDSM culture.

I can understand the fetish thing kinda. (Like porn or whatever) but the real life thing is just weird to me. "I'm going to dress up every day for the rest of my life as an animal because I need to." I just don't understand.

I am fascinated by it in some way though (Because its so weird/creepy) I want to know how it started. (I imagine like most things, it started by the internet.) It'd be hilarious of the origin of furry suits were just to fuck with people.

I think you misunderstood what I said before I was thinking about furry suits not furry porn.

[Tiger Guy]

As I mentioned before, this statement is outrageously false because actual "Bible bangers" are supposed to know that they're not supposed to hate anyone, they're supposed to hate the sin and love the sinner.

What kind of bible fuckers have you met?

Most that I've met think most liberal ideas (gay marriage, abortion, mary jane) should be abolished since it is immoral because of the bible. They rather raze the sinner than forgive it.

They want the bible to be the rule of law, and Jesus to be the judge.

[Seb]

What kind of bible fuckers have you met?

Most that I've met think most liberal ideas (gay marriage, abortion, mary jane) should be abolished since it is immoral because of the bible. They rather raze the sinner than forgive it.

They want the bible to be the rule of law, and Jesus to be the judge.

"Kill them all, let God sort them out!"