Regular/VIP

[Deathie]

And to add to that, it's hard for them to do duties when some are never on. Yes, I know people have lives, school. and work and such. But if they can never be on shouldn't they be just a regular if they are too busy to be able to handle the responsibility of being a VIP?

It's not that, it's just pointless to demote them since they can be repromoted at any time they like.

It's just unnecessary to demote for any reason other than abuse.

[HideoKojima]

It's not that, it's just pointless to demote them since they can be repromoted at any time they like.

It's just unnecessary to demote for any reason other than abuse.

..so in a sense VIP really is just a title/stroke a person's e-peen? And in some cases could just be considered a goal?

[Prox]

..so in a sense VIP really is just a title/stroke a person's e-peen? And in some cases could just be considered a goal?

Please explain to me how exactly does demoting a VIP for inactivity contribute to the servers in any way.

[Deathie]

..so in a sense VIP really is just a title/stroke a person's e-peen? And in some cases could just be considered a goal?

I really don't think you could be any more wrong.

[HideoKojima]

Please explain to me how exactly does demoting a VIP for inactivity contribute to the servers in any way.

Maybe it'd make them more active if they had to be at least semi-active? Wouldn't you agree?

I really don't think you could be any more wrong.

Well some people might get VIP and just stop playing. I've actually seen this a few times. It's kinda like "Well, I met my goal, time to stop playing"

I remember someone saying maybe VIPs stop playing because it takes so long to get VIP, that when they finally do get it, they get bored/start losing interest of the game. But at that point why bother getting VIP? lol


I don't know, just what I think.

[Deacon]

Gonna have to disagree with you on that, most but not all.

And to add to that, it's hard for them to do duties when some are never on. Yes, I know people have lives, school. and work and such. But if they can never be on shouldn't they be just a regular if they are too busy to be able to handle the responsibility of being a VIP?

There is no clause that VIPs have to play. Granted, many of them no longer do. But the ones that do play do not use VIP as a tag to stand out. Thats what I meant

[Dark Pacifist]

I remember someone saying maybe VIPs stop playing because it takes so long to get VIP, that when they finally do get it, they get bored/start losing interest of the game. But at that point why bother getting VIP? lol

I don't know, just what I think.

I've said that before... more or less you only notice the scarcity of active vips when trouble makers come on. It's not that they're on less after it's that they're typically busier at that point.
I do seek a rank between Reg and Vip with no title change and only votekick once every 10 minutes. It'll keep players more honest as people on the same level as them could watch them and it'll keep any chance of "Special reg's" abuse of power low to nil. Requirements 1: trusted by community 2: active 3: a good record for the past 4-6 months 4: Willing to join game by request to help out.

There is no clause that VIPs have to play. Granted, many of them no longer do. But the ones that do play do not use VIP as a tag to stand out. Thats what I meant

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That Tag is it's own issue at times (people play nice when they see a known "vip" join) but at least some players pay attention to whats said when they see it.

[HideoKojima]

There is no clause that VIPs have to play. Granted, many of them no longer do. But the ones that do play do not use VIP as a tag to stand out. Thats what I meant

"There is no clause that VIPs have to play." So... what's the point of having VIP if they are never there to not really help out? I thought VIPs were given to those who were active in the community and followed the rules?

I've said that before... more or less you only notice the scarcity of active vips when trouble makers come on. It's not that they're on less after it's that they're typically busier at that point.
I do seek a rank between Reg and Vip with no title change and only votekick once every 10 minutes. It'll keep players more honest as people on the same level as them could watch them and it'll keep any chance of "Special reg's" abuse of power low to nil. Requirements 1: trusted by community 2: active 3: a good record for the past 4-6 months 4: Willing to join game by request to help out.
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That Tag is it's own issue at times (people play nice when they see a known "vip" join) but at least some players pay attention to whats said when they see it.

Honestly, I just want VIP just to help out. if regulars actually got power, or if there was something in between I'd go for that I don't ever plan on going for admin or higher, too much responsibility lol... It's not bad too much nowadays because we have active VIP a lot of the time now, but not always, luckily we will be getting Kahuna soon <3 but even so he won't always be on, so there will always be times when there are no VIPs on and annoying crap can happen.

"That Tag is it's own issue at times (people play nice when they see a known "vip" join) but at least some players pay attention to whats said when they see it." I agree, sometimes people completely change how they act.
Though I'd also like to add not always was this the case. In the past I remember there were 2 people who had power(because I'm nice and I don't feel like causing shit, I won't name them) there was guys RDMing and acting like asses, and they were both AFK. And it was annoying as hell. And I told the 2 people with power and they didn't see it so they weren't kicked or anything(I believe. Memory is tad foggy but I remember being very annoyed about it.) And I remember I said "why are you guys here if you guys are just gonna take up slots and not even play."(something like this) and one of them said "if people see a VIP/Admin they are less likely to be bad." which is funny because earlier people were doing shit and they were not punished.
  Now this happened a few months ago, but I think it should still be brought up.

One of those people are now pretty much completely inactive, they were a shitty VIP as well but it doesn't matter apparently because no one ever loses their rank unless they abuse their power. and the other just doesn't play on TTT anymore I think.



 I doubt I will ever get VIP even though I think I'd be great for it. Maybe because I'm too active on the server obviously I need to become inactive and just play L4D2 to be able to get VIP.  

/end wall of text rant

[Deacon]

I doubt I will ever get VIP even though I think I'd be great for it. Maybe because I'm too active on the server obviously I need to become inactive and just play L4D2 to be able to get VIP.

Oh. Oho.

[Deathie]

I doubt I will ever get VIP even though I think I'd be great for it. Maybe because I'm too active on the server obviously I need to become inactive and just play L4D2 to be able to get VIP.  

>I don't like versus
>I only play L4D2 MLG Expert Realism
>I was never in this open circle of L4D2 Players
>I got admin

Your logic is flawed, sir.

[Shockah]

Totes cool long text rant aboot purple and sabb ending in smart-ass comment with little to no validity.

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Look I'll be serious I haven't been on pretty much at all lately, I play maybe a total of 3 or so hours a week now. As a temp vip I was extremely active and looking forward to acquiring the responsibility permanently, the problem is life just happens. You're right people do grow bored of the game and some people just outgrow them but for some, other things just come up, real life things. It's for that reason many vips and admins don't play anymore or play a limited amount, myself included. So before you spout off how inactive certain VIPs become just recognize that there are times in your life too in which your free time will be extremely limited and I guarantee you will outgrow or become bored with more than one hobby in your lifetime.

[TehHank]

>People who overtime spent large amounts of their time on the forums, servers and Etc. being friendly and buliding up friendships with others in the community who which after earning the trust that they can be VIP submit an application. Everyone agrees and that person lives up to their role.

>People who just quickly try to apply regular and soon afterwards try to apply for VIP even though they recieve generally negative feedback and try to sound as if their the the new "sliced bread" of the Forums, servers etc. They also think that any VIP is inactive for 2-3 weeks mean that they have to be demoted immediately.

[Prox]

"There is no clause that VIPs have to play." So... what's the point of having VIP if they are never there to not really help out? I thought VIPs were given to those who were active in the community and followed the rules?

Honestly, I just want VIP just to help out. if regulars actually got power, or if there was something in between I'd go for that I don't ever plan on going for admin or higher, too much responsibility lol... It's not bad too much nowadays because we have active VIP a lot of the time now, but not always, luckily we will be getting Kahuna soon <3 but even so he won't always be on, so there will always be times when there are no VIPs on and annoying crap can happen.

"That Tag is it's own issue at times (people play nice when they see a known "vip" join) but at least some players pay attention to whats said when they see it." I agree, sometimes people completely change how they act.
Though I'd also like to add not always was this the case. In the past I remember there were 2 people who had power(because I'm nice and I don't feel like causing shit, I won't name them) there was guys RDMing and acting like asses, and they were both AFK. And it was annoying as hell. And I told the 2 people with power and they didn't see it so they weren't kicked or anything(I believe. Memory is tad foggy but I remember being very annoyed about it.) And I remember I said "why are you guys here if you guys are just gonna take up slots and not even play."(something like this) and one of them said "if people see a VIP/Admin they are less likely to be bad." which is funny because earlier people were doing shit and they were not punished.
  Now this happened a few months ago, but I think it should still be brought up.

One of those people are now pretty much completely inactive, they were a shitty VIP as well but it doesn't matter apparently because no one ever loses their rank unless they abuse their power. and the other just doesn't play on TTT anymore I think.



 I doubt I will ever get VIP even though I think I'd be great for it. Maybe because I'm too active on the server obviously I need to become inactive and just play L4D2 to be able to get VIP.  

/end wall of text rant

VIPs make mistakes. VIPs just as everyone else might go afk for certain reasons. VIPs cannot be on all the time. It might be hard for 1 VIP to keep track of everything. VIPs just like everyone else get bored of things. VIPs just like everyone else have their troubles and other things in life. VIPs live in many different locations and not all are able to get on by the time the servers go up. VIPs just like everyone else might want to relax after a hard day, therefore managing servers may be too irritating at that certain moment. VIPs just like everyone else want to have fun too. Demoting VIPs for inactivity would decrease the chance of having one on, not by much but it would possibly add up eventually. 

[Castle]

and since when to regs and guests not?

Since you posted.

[pyrosheep]

Since you posted.

what's that supposed to mean?
Also Hideo, I know you're just trying to help out the server and everything by applying for VIP, but you aren't the one for the job. Don't turn this thread into your "I'M NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR VIP OMG IM IN THE TOP 10 ARE YOU KIDDING ME" thread.