What needs to be done to fix TTT

[Travelsonic]

For some reason, in spite of not TRYING to, I find myself losing karma - going from 860 - 1k karma to 700 and lower [down to 76 in its lowest a couple of weeks ago] much more frequently than a year ago when I started playing, or even a couple of months ago.   

If it comes down to the RDM-and-run fucks, it wouldn't help them to have the idea, it may help the longer term fucks, but that IMO is where the VIPs, admins, and sourcebans - should it get fixed, or the real servers come back, do their share.

[Rocket50]

Instead of changing the servers entirely, why not have two TTT servers and let people decide what they want instead of assuming that one is 'best' for the community

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Also you misspelled beneficial ._.

[Doctor Who]

Instead of changing the servers entirely, why not have two TTT servers :l

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Also you misspelled beneficial ._.

Just.. get the two TTT servers already and we'll see if it works out

[Osme]

I still fail to see how permakarma helps. Making minges change from rdming the first 2 rounds to baiting the rest isnt really helpful. If anything, its worse than rdming, because it fucks over actual players for a good amount of time, versus a single round of being rdm'd. In many of the rounds I play, its simply unplayable because there is almost always someone with low karma spraying you, but then the "WHOA WHOA, DONT HURT HIM, YOULL LOSE KARMA AND BE PUNISHED BECAUSE SOMEONE ELSE IS A MINGE!" idea causes you to sit there and take it. Even shooting the guy  chasing me with a knife was too much of a risk to take. So I simply quit. Its supposed to be fun, but permakarma makes it a chore and a task to not play, but simply grind karma up. Its more of a competition of patience in grinding karma as I see it.

[yoshi]

I'll rather be RDMed every round than getting T bait'd everytime since it's so fucking tedious.
Incase you're not seeing the point, permakarma is worst

[Travelsonic]

Nexus' TTT server has this thing that tells you who killed you, and what team they are on - which can help in dealing with RDMers, resolving conflicts or providing proof of RDMing or not RDMing.  We should have that on our server too, IMO.

[Samo]

Nexus' TTT server has this thing that tells you who killed you, and what team they are on - which can help in dealing with RDMers, resolving conflicts or providing proof of RDMing or not RDMing.  We should have that on our server too, IMO.

That would be great! I hate listening to people rage at others who didn't even RDM them. I've seen this in another server a long time ago. It worked quite well.
On the other hand, we may need more VIP/Admin activity. Having at least one in the servers will greatly lower the amount of bitching and baiting going on.   

[semy32]

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ttt_print_damagelog

[Shockah]

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ttt_print_damagelog

Yeah I was hoping someone would have said that, this command shows you every piece of damage that happened during the round I don't see why damagelogs aren't sufficient?

[Sabb]

Yeah I was hoping someone would have said that, this command shows you every piece of damage that happened during the round I don't see why damagelogs aren't sufficient?

Because the average player doesn't want to control himself until after the round to actually see who did what before complaining, insulting, etc etc.

[Xrain]

Nexus' TTT server has this thing that tells you who killed you, and what team they are on - which can help in dealing with RDMers, resolving conflicts or providing proof of RDMing or not RDMing.  We should have that on our server too, IMO.

If it shows who killed you before the round ends, than no. That increases the risk of ghosting significantly, there is a very good reason ttt_print_damagelog doesn't work until the end of round.

If it only works at the end of round, what's the point? There are already two systems in place (print_damagelog, ingame ttt menu) that serve the exact same functionality. I also dislike my screen getting bombarded by information at the end of a round.

So if you are too lazy, or impatient to hold off venting your spleen until the end of round, and using the damagelog command. That really doesn't sound like a game-breaking issue to me.

Instead of changing the servers entirely, why not have two TTT servers and let people decide what they want instead of assuming that one is 'best' for the community

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Also you misspelled beneficial ._.

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Why not? Because I don't have any available resources to host a second ttt server. So if you wish to donate to me a couple hundred dollars so I can updgrade the VDS, then sure, good chance I'll host a second ttt server. Otherwise I feel that I have expended enough of my personal resources.

In addition, while that sounds like a good idea, I can see several cases where it would prove inconclusive. For example, what if both servers end up having equal population? Or more likely, what if people just get confused, and go to whatever server not really understanding the implications. That would be a false positive.


You know guys, I honestly think that our best option isn't a radical change to the ttt server. According to game tracker we are the #7 ttt server on the planet, and the #6 in the united states. We must be doing something right. Lets not be hasty and alienate all of our player base.


Now that my rl commitments have cleared up a bit, expect some improvements to be made to the servers in the next few weeks.

[Travelsonic]

If it shows who killed you before the round ends, than no. That increases the risk of ghosting significantly...

I mean, sure, if you're friends with players that ghost/you ghost then yes, but that doesn't seem to be a problem there, and I play there very frequently.

[Xrain]

I mean, sure, if you're friends with players that ghost/you ghost then yes, but that doesn't seem to be a problem there, and I play there very frequently.

Alright, if that really is the case, now we hit issue #2.

It seems to me like it was custom made for their servers?

Which means it's something we will have to custom make. I for one, have neither the coding prowess, nor the desire to make such a thing.


So if you wish to make it, very well,  I look forward to it. Keep in mind, it will have to be double-checked to make sure it doesn't open any security holes.

Good luck!


Just to keep in mind, I have limited time available, I definitely have more now, however. The issues (ranked) I will focus on are as follows:

1. Security risks ( Things that endanger the server )
2. Gameplay issues ( Things that make the game unplayable )
3. Value-added services ( Things that would be nice to have ) ((Yes these are important but they aren't critical to the functioning of the server))

[Travelsonic]

I've actually wanted to code some things for the server - though with the relaunch of rNd's official servers I wonder if that would go to waste... ah well, final exams are almost here, then I'll have all the time in the world. 

[Foofoojack]

I think more admin and VIP activity could clear up a lot of the fog that makes the TTT server unhappy.