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The Official flame thread
« on: February 18, 2012, 11:17:49 AM »
Basically flame each other act like trolls, flame, please remember, we're not trying to make you feel bad or something like that it is all a joke. PS: Try to do it in a funny way

fuk u guise all, go rd ur twiglt b00ks
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Re: The Official flame thread
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2012, 11:27:26 AM »
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« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2012, 11:31:11 AM »
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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2012, 11:31:24 AM »
hotgreen loks liku a green bean

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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2012, 11:34:01 AM »

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Re: The Official flame thread
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2012, 11:36:08 AM »
go flme urself captian

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Re: The Official flame thread
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2012, 11:38:30 AM »
The topic i want to cover in this Post is big and complex, and I don't have much in the way of scientific data on it. Nor do I have a lot of hard statistics, just a number of general observations and a good bit of specific anecdotal material. To start, after hearing about Jman's anti-democratic attempts to quote me out of context, I was saddened. I was saddened that he has lowered himself to this level. Jman just keeps on saying, "I don't give a [expletive deleted] about you. I just want to create a regime of arrogant expansionism."

Jman insists that manipulative suborners of perjury are more deserving of honor than our nation's war heroes. This is a rather strong notion from someone who knows so little about the subject. Should you think I'm saying too much, please note that I by no means claim to know everything about pusillanimous barbaric-types. I put that observation into this letter just to let you see that he's a psychologically defective person. He's what the psychiatrists call a constitutional psychopath or a sociopath.

When I first heard about Jman's causeries, I dismissed them as merely naive. But when I later learned that he wants me to swallow whatever he dishes out, I realized that Jman is the secret player behind the present, unrestrained political scene. He must be brought out from behind the curtain before it's too late, before his pals start wars, ruin the environment, invent diseases, and routinely do a hundred other things that kill people. I'm not normally one to criticize, but Jman's assault on free speech was not mounted in a few weeks. Rather, it evolved gradually over a much longer period of time, barely perceptible in its origins and benefiting from a gradualism that provoked little awareness, much less any real reaction. That's why it is now the time to clean up the country and get it back on course again.

I don't care what others say about Jman. He's still vapid, covinous, and he intends to develop mind-control technology. While we do nothing, those who produce a large number of totally intrusive extravagancies, most uncouth indecencies, and, above all, the most obdurate blasphemies against everything that I hold most sacred and most dear are gloating and smirking. And they will keep on gloating and smirking until we renew those institutions of civil society—like families, schools, churches, and civic groups—that create greater public understanding of the damage caused by his inveracities.

The biggest supporters of Jman's domineering, truculent vituperations are invidious reprobates and what I call balmy autocrats. A secondary class of ardent supporters consists of ladies of elastic virtue and cosmopolitan tendencies to whom such things afford a decent excuse for displaying their fascinations at their open windows. No matter what else we do, our first move must be to educate everyone about how Jman is incapable of rational thought about the real world. That's the first step: education. Education alone is not enough, of course. We must also tell you a little bit about Jman and his besotted campaigns.

Jman and his spin doctors are distasteful, semi-intelligible backbiters. This is not set down in complaint against them but merely as analysis. Something that I have heard repeated several times from various sources—a sort of "tag line" for Jman—is, "We should go out and exhibit a deep disdain for all people who are not vulgar, sneaky ex-cons. And when we're done with that, we'll all promote the sententious politics of wild punks." This is not a direct quote, nor have I heard it from Jman's lips directly but several sources have paraphrased the content to me in near-enough ways that I feel fairly confident it actually was said. And to be honest, I have no trouble believing it.

Jman is opposed to charlatanism, even though his own whinges are just as upside-down, inside-out, convoluted, inverted, and perverted. I know because I have experienced that personally. He does not desire to benefit humanity but rather to tap into the national resurgence of overt interdenominationalism. His personal attacks can be subtle. They can be so subtle that many people never realize they're being influenced by them. That's why we must proactively notify humanity that even if one is opposed to ungrateful Fabianism (as I am) then, surely, if Jman is incapable of discerning the mad ramblings of jejune yo-yos from the wisdom and nuance embedded in a sage's discourse then I seriously doubt that he'll be capable of determining that his favorite scapegoats are the government, the economy, the environment, society, parents, teachers, and just about everything else. Nevertheless, I can state with absolute certainty that he and his forces are a bunch of pickpockets. As you know, pickpockets are potlickers; potlickers are mendicants; mendicants are brutes; and brutes all want to play the blame game. The point is that Jman has allowed himself to become a spokesman for the same point of view shared by cuckoo paper-pushers, jealous skinflints, and muzzy-headed scamps while masquerading as an outspoken radical bucking the system.

The following is a preliminary attempt to establish some criteria for discussion of these complex issues. To begin with, Jman's faculty for deception is so far above anyone else's, it really must be considered different in kind as well as in degree. Let's try to understand what handing over our rights to Jman will really mean. It certainly won't mean that we'll be able to freely justify condemnation, constructive criticism, and ridicule of him and his obtuse, presumptuous double standards. No, it will mean witchcraft, beastliness, rape, and murder will become omnipresent in our society. It will mean a descent back into the jungle.

The tone of Jman's catch-phrases is so far removed from reality I find myself questioning what color the sky must be in Jman's world. Jman's thesis is that the purpose of life is self-gratification. That's completely repulsive, you say? Good; that means you're finally catching on. The next step is to observe that Jman avers that society is supposed to be lenient towards contumacious goofballs. As you can no doubt determine from comments like that, facts and Maaz Ali are like oil and water.

The most inerudite blockheads you'll ever see are so fascinated by Jman's insufferable notions that they fail to notice how with all their sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, his fairy tales are thoroughly warped. Let me recap that for you because it really is extraordinarily important: He alleges that his hypnopompic insights are Holy Writ. Naturally, this is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. What I'm saying is this: Jman parrots whatever ideas are fashionable at the moment. When the fashions change, his ideas will change instantly like a weathercock. In addition to communicating an understanding of the terrible danger we face, I, not being one of the many aberrant prima donnas of this world, need to create a world in which totalitarianism, nepotism, and Marxism are all but forgotten. Surely, he is not too overweening to realize that. He asserts that he can convince criminals to fill out an application form before committing a crime. Most reasonable people, however, recognize such assertions as nothing more than baseless, if wishful, claims unsupported by concrete evidence. I'll finish this letter by instructing you not to blindly accept my words or those of others as truth. Investigate, discriminate, and question everything not proven. Only by doing so can you determine for yourself that Jman has nephelococcygic delusions about being able to promote his profligate substitute for morality, which defines as prolix any attempt to dispense justice.

I want to share with you a few of the tentative conclusions I've reached regarding Jman's opuscula. And I stress the word "tentative," because the subject of what motivates Jman is tricky and complex. Let me start by stressing that I am not attempting to suppress anyone's opinions, nor do I intend to demean Jman personally for his beliefs or worldviews. But I do assert that I must pave the way for people of every sex, race, and socioeconomic status to fulfill their own spiritual destiny. He will do everything in his power to kill the goose bearing the golden egg. No wonder corruption is endemic to our society; Jman's cheerleaders resist seeing that Jman is operating under the misguided assumption that aberrant blusterers have dramatically lower incidences of cancer, heart attacks, heart disease, and many other illnesses than the rest of us. They resist seeing such things because to see them, to examine them, to think about them and draw conclusions from them is to lift the fog from Jman's thinking.

Jman is not just odious. He is unbelievably, astronomically odious. He swims in a sea of autism, the waters of which roil with anger and resentment. Most of that anger and resentment is directed towards people like me who supply the missing ingredient that could stop the worldwide slide into commercialism. Not to belabor the point, but Jman denies ever having tried to change the course of history. I assume he's merely trying to cover his posterior, as the truth is that we can all have daydreams about Happy Fuzzy Purple Bunny Land, where everyone is caring, loving, and nice. Not only will those daydreams not come true, but we mustn't be content to patch and darn, to piece and cobble at the worn and rotten fabric of Jman's quasi-soporific practices. Instead we must combat the blockish ideology of parasitism that has infected the minds of so many soulless yobbos.

I won't lie to you; we've all heard Jman yammer and whine about how he's being scapegoated again, the poor dear. I and Jman part company when it comes to the issue of Lysenkoism. He feels that the sky is falling while I warrant that he presents himself as a disinterested classicist lamenting the infusion of politically motivated methods of pedagogy and analysis into higher education. Jman is eloquent in his denunciation of modern scholarship, claiming it favors vile reavers. And here we have the ultimate irony because you may make the comment, "What does this have to do with nefarious ex-cons?" Well, once you begin to see the light you'll realize that Jman has a knack for convincing rebarbative wackos that our country's security, prestige, and financial interests are best served by war and the ever-present threat of war. That's called marketing. The underlying trick is to use sesquipedalian terms like "incomprehensibleness" and "macracanthrorhynchiasis" to keep his sales pitch from sounding antisocial. That's why you really have to look hard to see that Jman keeps stating over and over again that every featherless biped, regardless of intelligence, personal achievement, moral character, sense of responsibility, or sanity, should be given the power to make excessive use of foul language. This drumbeat refrain is clearly not consistent with the facts on the ground—facts such as that we are at war. Don't think we're not just because you're not stepping over dead bodies in the streets. We're at war with Jman's corrupt beliefs (as I would certainly not call them logically reasoned arguments). We're at war with his appalling mind games. And we're at war with his cold-blooded newsgroup postings. As in any war, we ought to be aware of the fact that Jman serves up his neo-illaudable form of fascism as intellectual fast food for his self-aggrandizing trained seals. But there is a further-reaching implication: My long-term goal is to make this world a better place in which to live. Unfortunately, much remains to be done. As you may have noticed, people used to think I was exaggerating whenever I said that poison is countered only by an antidote. After seeing Jman create massive civil unrest these same people now realize that I wasn't exaggerating at all. In fact, they even realize that Jman relies heavily on "useful idiots", that is, people who unwittingly do Jman's dirty work for him. Without his swarms of useful idiots, Jman would not have been able to conceal the fact that it's best to ignore most of the quotes that he so frequently cites. Jman takes quotes out of context; uses misleading, irrelevant, and out-of-date quotes; and presents quotes from legitimate authorities used misleadingly to support contentions that they did not intend and that are not true. In short, I am truly at a loss for words when he asserts that we have too much freedom. He can't possibly be serious. I suspect that the real story here is that those who have most injured and oppressed humanity, who have most deeply sinned against it, are, according to Jman's standards and conscience, good people. Apparently, bad people are those who have noticed that most of you reading this letter have your hearts in the right place. Now follow your hearts with actions.

Jman is a moonstruck stirrer. In fact, Jman is worse than a moonstruck stirrer; he's also a possession-obsessed dipsomaniac. That's why he feels obligated to create a new cottage industry around his warped form of gangsterism. Despite what you may have been taught in school, like a verbal magician, Jman knows how to lie without appearing to be lying, how to bury secrets in mountains of garbage-speak. I won't mince my words: It's astounding that he has somehow found a way to work the words "predisadvantageously" and "anthropomorphotheist" into his initiatives. However, you may find it even more astounding that the acid test for his "kinder, gentler" new adages should be, "Do they still weaken our mental and moral fiber?" If the answer is yes then we can conclude that I am not predicting anything specific. I just have a feeling, an intuition, based on several things that are happening now that Jman will supplant one form of injustice with another some day.

One of the goals of careerism is to render meaningless the words "best" and "worst". Jman admires that philosophy because, by annihilating human perceptions of quality, Jman's own mediocrity can flourish. If I try really, really hard, I can almost see why he would want to transform our little community into a global crucible of terror and gore. Jman's constant whining and yammering is a background noise that never seems to go away, and I'm not making that up! If you've read any of the politically incorrect slop that Jman has concocted, you'll decidedly recall Jman's description of his plan to give me reason to wander around in a quagmire of self-pity and depression. If you haven't read any of it, well, all you really need to know is that I shall be blamed by ignorant persons when I say that it's ludicrous to believe that law and order can be maintained by letting Jman's vicegerents spam the Internet with huffy junk e-mail. Cruel as that maxim may appear, if he thinks that alcoholism is a be-all, end-all system that should be forcefully imposed upon us then maybe he should lay off the wacky tobacky.

Make no mistake about it; Jman wants to criticize other people's beliefs, fashion sense, and lifestyle. You know what groups have historically wanted to do the same thing? Fascists and Nazis. Of all of his exaggerations and incorrect comparisons, one in particular stands out: "Jman's proposed social programs provide a liberating insight into life, the universe, and everything." I don't know where he came up with this, but his statement is dead wrong. I would like to comment on Jman's attempt to associate recidivism with barbarism. There is no association.

Well, let's get our facts straight. We must recall the ideals of compassion, nonviolence, community, and cooperation if we are ever to uplift individuals and communities on a global scale to invigorate the effort to reach solutions by increasing the scope of the inquiry rather than by narrowing or abandoning it. Yes, this is a bold, audacious, even unprecedented undertaking. Yes, it lacks any realistic guarantee of success. However, it is an undertaking that we must really pursue because Jman wants to produce an army of mindless insects who will obey his every command. To produce such an army, he plans to destroy people's minds using either drugs or an advanced form of lobotomy. Whichever approach he takes, I never intend to offend anyone, Jman included. Alas, the following statement may upset a few people: Whenever Jman is presented with the truth; he cringes like a vampire from a cross. Some people squirm a bit when they they read things like that, but such statements are the key to explaining why Jman takes visible delight in making today's oppressiveness look like grade-school work compared to what he has planned for the future. (Actually, the only thing bigger than the chip on his shoulder is the grossness of his slurs, but that's not important now.)

Jman's hypnopompic insights are like an enormous teetotalism-spewing machine. We must begin dismantling that structure. We must put a monkey wrench in its gears. And we must follow knowledge like a sinking star beyond the utmost bound of human thought because when Jman hears anyone say that this is where the rubber hits the road, his answer is to tear down all theoretical frameworks for addressing the issue. That's similar to taking a few drunken swings at a beehive: it just makes me want even more to resolve our disputes without violence.

Clearly, we must address the real issues faced by mankind. As mentioned above, however, that is not enough. It is necessary to do more. It is necessary to substitute movement for stagnation, purposive behavior for drifting, and visions of a great future for collective pettiness and discouragement.

Jman's brethren are tools. Like a hammer or an axe, they are not inherently evil or destructive. The evil is in the force that manipulates them and uses them for destructive purposes. That evil is Maaz Ali, who wants nothing less than to turn back the clock and repeal all the civil rights and anti-discrimination legislation now on the books. My goal for this letter was to fight on the battleground of ideas for our inalienable individual rights. Know that I have done my best while trying always to lead Jman out of a dream world and back to hard reality. Let an honest history judge.

It is with extreme disgust that I write this letter and say what will sincerely be considered misinformed by some of my peers. Nonetheless, it must be stated that it's no secret that we must draw the line somewhere. Many of the arguments I'm about to make rest upon the rock-solid principles of freedom of thought and freedom of speech. If it weren't for these freedoms, I wouldn't be allowed to tell you that Jman spouts the same bile in everything he writes, making only slight modifications to suit the issue at hand. The issue he's excited about this week is absenteeism, which says to me that this is preeminently the time to speak the truth, the whole truth, frankly and boldly. Let me therefore state that if Jman would abandon his name-calling and false dichotomies it would be much easier for me to direct our efforts toward clearly defined goals and measure progress toward those goals as frequently and as objectively as possible.
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Re: The Official flame thread
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2012, 11:40:26 AM »
u prolly ben riting it a wole yeer, carck face

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Re: The Official flame thread
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u prolly ben riting it a wole yeer, carck face

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« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2012, 11:43:48 AM »
The topic i want to cover in this Post is big and complex, and I don't have much in the way of scientific data on it. Nor do I have a lot of hard statistics, just a number of general observations and a good bit of specific anecdotal material. To start, after hearing about Jman's anti-democratic attempts to quote me out of context, I was saddened. I was saddened that he has lowered himself to this level. Jman just keeps on saying, "I don't give a [expletive deleted] about you. I just want to create a regime of arrogant expansionism."

Jman insists that manipulative suborners of perjury are more deserving of honor than our nation's war heroes. This is a rather strong notion from someone who knows so little about the subject. Should you think I'm saying too much, please note that I by no means claim to know everything about pusillanimous barbaric-types. I put that observation into this letter just to let you see that he's a psychologically defective person. He's what the psychiatrists call a constitutional psychopath or a sociopath.

When I first heard about Jman's causeries, I dismissed them as merely naive. But when I later learned that he wants me to swallow whatever he dishes out, I realized that Jman is the secret player behind the present, unrestrained political scene. He must be brought out from behind the curtain before it's too late, before his pals start wars, ruin the environment, invent diseases, and routinely do a hundred other things that kill people. I'm not normally one to criticize, but Jman's assault on free speech was not mounted in a few weeks. Rather, it evolved gradually over a much longer period of time, barely perceptible in its origins and benefiting from a gradualism that provoked little awareness, much less any real reaction. That's why it is now the time to clean up the country and get it back on course again.

I don't care what others say about Jman. He's still vapid, covinous, and he intends to develop mind-control technology. While we do nothing, those who produce a large number of totally intrusive extravagancies, most uncouth indecencies, and, above all, the most obdurate blasphemies against everything that I hold most sacred and most dear are gloating and smirking. And they will keep on gloating and smirking until we renew those institutions of civil society—like families, schools, churches, and civic groups—that create greater public understanding of the damage caused by his inveracities.

The biggest supporters of Jman's domineering, truculent vituperations are invidious reprobates and what I call balmy autocrats. A secondary class of ardent supporters consists of ladies of elastic virtue and cosmopolitan tendencies to whom such things afford a decent excuse for displaying their fascinations at their open windows. No matter what else we do, our first move must be to educate everyone about how Cream is incapable of rational thought about the real world. That's the first step: education. Education alone is not enough, of course. We must also tell you a little bit about Jman and his besotted campaigns.

Jman and his spin doctors are distasteful, semi-intelligible backbiters. This is not set down in complaint against them but merely as analysis. Something that I have heard repeated several times from various sources—a sort of "tag line" for Jman—is, "We should go out and exhibit a deep disdain for all people who are not vulgar, sneaky ex-cons. And when we're done with that, we'll all promote the sententious politics of wild punks." This is not a direct quote, nor have I heard it from Jman's lips directly but several sources have paraphrased the content to me in near-enough ways that I feel fairly confident it actually was said. And to be honest, I have no trouble believing it.

Jman is opposed to charlatanism, even though his own whinges are just as upside-down, inside-out, convoluted, inverted, and perverted. I know because I have experienced that personally. He does not desire to benefit humanity but rather to tap into the national resurgence of overt interdenominationalism. His personal attacks can be subtle. They can be so subtle that many people never realize they're being influenced by them. That's why we must proactively notify humanity that even if one is opposed to ungrateful Fabianism (as I am) then, surely, if Jman is incapable of discerning the mad ramblings of jejune yo-yos from the wisdom and nuance embedded in a sage's discourse then I seriously doubt that he'll be capable of determining that his favorite scapegoats are the government, the economy, the environment, society, parents, teachers, and just about everything else. Nevertheless, I can state with absolute certainty that he and his forces are a bunch of pickpockets. As you know, pickpockets are potlickers; potlickers are mendicants; mendicants are brutes; and brutes all want to play the blame game. The point is that Jman has allowed himself to become a spokesman for the same point of view shared by cuckoo paper-pushers, jealous skinflints, and muzzy-headed scamps while masquerading as an outspoken radical bucking the system.

The following is a preliminary attempt to establish some criteria for discussion of these complex issues. To begin with, Jman's faculty for deception is so far above anyone else's, it really must be considered different in kind as well as in degree. Let's try to understand what handing over our rights to Jman will really mean. It certainly won't mean that we'll be able to freely justify condemnation, constructive criticism, and ridicule of him and his obtuse, presumptuous double standards. No, it will mean witchcraft, beastliness, rape, and murder will become omnipresent in our society. It will mean a descent back into the jungle.

The tone of Jman's catch-phrases is so far removed from reality I find myself questioning what color the sky must be in Jman's world. Jman's thesis is that the purpose of life is self-gratification. That's completely repulsive, you say? Good; that means you're finally catching on. The next step is to observe that Jman avers that society is supposed to be lenient towards contumacious goofballs. As you can no doubt determine from comments like that, facts and Maaz Ali are like oil and water.

The most inerudite blockheads you'll ever see are so fascinated by Jman's insufferable notions that they fail to notice how with all their sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, his fairy tales are thoroughly warped. Let me recap that for you because it really is extraordinarily important: He alleges that his hypnopompic insights are Holy Writ. Naturally, this is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. What I'm saying is this: Jman parrots whatever ideas are fashionable at the moment. When the fashions change, his ideas will change instantly like a weathercock. In addition to communicating an understanding of the terrible danger we face, I, not being one of the many aberrant prima donnas of this world, need to create a world in which totalitarianism, nepotism, and Marxism are all but forgotten. Surely, he is not too overweening to realize that. He asserts that he can convince criminals to fill out an application form before committing a crime. Most reasonable people, however, recognize such assertions as nothing more than baseless, if wishful, claims unsupported by concrete evidence. I'll finish this letter by instructing you not to blindly accept my words or those of others as truth. Investigate, discriminate, and question everything not proven. Only by doing so can you determine for yourself that Jman has nephelococcygic delusions about being able to promote his profligate substitute for morality, which defines as prolix any attempt to dispense justice.

I want to share with you a few of the tentative conclusions I've reached regarding Jman's opuscula. And I stress the word "tentative," because the subject of what motivates Jman is tricky and complex. Let me start by stressing that I am not attempting to suppress anyone's opinions, nor do I intend to demean Jman personally for his beliefs or worldviews. But I do assert that I must pave the way for people of every sex, race, and socioeconomic status to fulfill their own spiritual destiny. He will do everything in his power to kill the goose bearing the golden egg. No wonder corruption is endemic to our society; Jman's cheerleaders resist seeing that Jman is operating under the misguided assumption that aberrant blusterers have dramatically lower incidences of cancer, heart attacks, heart disease, and many other illnesses than the rest of us. They resist seeing such things because to see them, to examine them, to think about them and draw conclusions from them is to lift the fog from Cream's thinking.

Jman is not just odious. He is unbelievably, astronomically odious. He swims in a sea of autism, the waters of which roil with anger and resentment. Most of that anger and resentment is directed towards people like me who supply the missing ingredient that could stop the worldwide slide into commercialism. Not to belabor the point, but Jman denies ever having tried to change the course of history. I assume he's merely trying to cover his posterior, as the truth is that we can all have daydreams about Happy Fuzzy Purple Bunny Land, where everyone is caring, loving, and nice. Not only will those daydreams not come true, but we mustn't be content to patch and darn, to piece and cobble at the worn and rotten fabric of Jman's quasi-soporific practices. Instead we must combat the blockish ideology of parasitism that has infected the minds of so many soulless yobbos.

I won't lie to you; we've all heard Jman yammer and whine about how he's being scapegoated again, the poor dear. I and Jman part company when it comes to the issue of Lysenkoism. He feels that the sky is falling while I warrant that he presents himself as a disinterested classicist lamenting the infusion of politically motivated methods of pedagogy and analysis into higher education. Jman is eloquent in his denunciation of modern scholarship, claiming it favors vile reavers. And here we have the ultimate irony because you may make the comment, "What does this have to do with nefarious ex-cons?" Well, once you begin to see the light you'll realize that Jman has a knack for convincing rebarbative wackos that our country's security, prestige, and financial interests are best served by war and the ever-present threat of war. That's called marketing. The underlying trick is to use sesquipedalian terms like "incomprehensibleness" and "macracanthrorhynchiasis" to keep his sales pitch from sounding antisocial. That's why you really have to look hard to see that Jman keeps stating over and over again that every featherless biped, regardless of intelligence, personal achievement, moral character, sense of responsibility, or sanity, should be given the power to make excessive use of foul language. This drumbeat refrain is clearly not consistent with the facts on the ground—facts such as that we are at war. Don't think we're not just because you're not stepping over dead bodies in the streets. We're at war with Jman's corrupt beliefs (as I would certainly not call them logically reasoned arguments). We're at war with his appalling mind games. And we're at war with his cold-blooded newsgroup postings. As in any war, we ought to be aware of the fact that Jman serves up his neo-illaudable form of fascism as intellectual fast food for his self-aggrandizing trained seals. But there is a further-reaching implication: My long-term goal is to make this world a better place in which to live. Unfortunately, much remains to be done. As you may have noticed, people used to think I was exaggerating whenever I said that poison is countered only by an antidote. After seeing Jman create massive civil unrest these same people now realize that I wasn't exaggerating at all. In fact, they even realize that Jman relies heavily on "useful idiots", that is, people who unwittingly do Jman's dirty work for him. Without his swarms of useful idiots, Jman would not have been able to conceal the fact that it's best to ignore most of the quotes that he so frequently cites. Jman takes quotes out of context; uses misleading, irrelevant, and out-of-date quotes; and presents quotes from legitimate authorities used misleadingly to support contentions that they did not intend and that are not true. In short, I am truly at a loss for words when he asserts that we have too much freedom. He can't possibly be serious. I suspect that the real story here is that those who have most injured and oppressed humanity, who have most deeply sinned against it, are, according to Jman's standards and conscience, good people. Apparently, bad people are those who have noticed that most of you reading this letter have your hearts in the right place. Now follow your hearts with actions.

Jman is a moonstruck stirrer. In fact, Jman is worse than a moonstruck stirrer; he's also a possession-obsessed dipsomaniac. That's why he feels obligated to create a new cottage industry around his warped form of gangsterism. Despite what you may have been taught in school, like a verbal magician, Jman knows how to lie without appearing to be lying, how to bury secrets in mountains of garbage-speak. I won't mince my words: It's astounding that he has somehow found a way to work the words "predisadvantageously" and "anthropomorphotheist" into his initiatives. However, you may find it even more astounding that the acid test for his "kinder, gentler" new adages should be, "Do they still weaken our mental and moral fiber?" If the answer is yes then we can conclude that I am not predicting anything specific. I just have a feeling, an intuition, based on several things that are happening now that Jman will supplant one form of injustice with another some day.

One of the goals of careerism is to render meaningless the words "best" and "worst". Jman admires that philosophy because, by annihilating human perceptions of quality, Jman's own mediocrity can flourish. If I try really, really hard, I can almost see why he would want to transform our little community into a global crucible of terror and gore. Jman's constant whining and yammering is a background noise that never seems to go away, and I'm not making that up! If you've read any of the politically incorrect slop that Jman has concocted, you'll decidedly recall Jman's description of his plan to give me reason to wander around in a quagmire of self-pity and depression. If you haven't read any of it, well, all you really need to know is that I shall be blamed by ignorant persons when I say that it's ludicrous to believe that law and order can be maintained by letting Jman's vicegerents spam the Internet with huffy junk e-mail. Cruel as that maxim may appear, if he thinks that alcoholism is a be-all, end-all system that should be forcefully imposed upon us then maybe he should lay off the wacky tobacky.

Make no mistake about it; Jman wants to criticize other people's beliefs, fashion sense, and lifestyle. You know what groups have historically wanted to do the same thing? Fascists and Nazis. Of all of his exaggerations and incorrect comparisons, one in particular stands out: "Jman's proposed social programs provide a liberating insight into life, the universe, and everything." I don't know where he came up with this, but his statement is dead wrong. I would like to comment on Jman's attempt to associate recidivism with barbarism. There is no association.

Well, let's get our facts straight. We must recall the ideals of compassion, nonviolence, community, and cooperation if we are ever to uplift individuals and communities on a global scale to invigorate the effort to reach solutions by increasing the scope of the inquiry rather than by narrowing or abandoning it. Yes, this is a bold, audacious, even unprecedented undertaking. Yes, it lacks any realistic guarantee of success. However, it is an undertaking that we must really pursue because Jman wants to produce an army of mindless insects who will obey his every command. To produce such an army, he plans to destroy people's minds using either drugs or an advanced form of lobotomy. Whichever approach he takes, I never intend to offend anyone, Jman included. Alas, the following statement may upset a few people: Whenever Jman is presented with the truth; he cringes like a vampire from a cross. Some people squirm a bit when they they read things like that, but such statements are the key to explaining why Jman takes visible delight in making today's oppressiveness look like grade-school work compared to what he has planned for the future. (Actually, the only thing bigger than the chip on his shoulder is the grossness of his slurs, but that's not important now.)

Jman's hypnopompic insights are like an enormous teetotalism-spewing machine. We must begin dismantling that structure. We must put a monkey wrench in its gears. And we must follow knowledge like a sinking star beyond the utmost bound of human thought because when Jman hears anyone say that this is where the rubber hits the road, his answer is to tear down all theoretical frameworks for addressing the issue. That's similar to taking a few drunken swings at a beehive: it just makes me want even more to resolve our disputes without violence.

Clearly, we must address the real issues faced by mankind. As mentioned above, however, that is not enough. It is necessary to do more. It is necessary to substitute movement for stagnation, purposive behavior for drifting, and visions of a great future for collective pettiness and discouragement.

Jman's brethren are tools. Like a hammer or an axe, they are not inherently evil or destructive. The evil is in the force that manipulates them and uses them for destructive purposes. That evil is Maaz Ali, who wants nothing less than to turn back the clock and repeal all the civil rights and anti-discrimination legislation now on the books. My goal for this letter was to fight on the battleground of ideas for our inalienable individual rights. Know that I have done my best while trying always to lead Jman out of a dream world and back to hard reality. Let an honest history judge.

It is with extreme disgust that I write this letter and say what will sincerely be considered misinformed by some of my peers. Nonetheless, it must be stated that it's no secret that we must draw the line somewhere. Many of the arguments I'm about to make rest upon the rock-solid principles of freedom of thought and freedom of speech. If it weren't for these freedoms, I wouldn't be allowed to tell you that Jman spouts the same bile in everything he writes, making only slight modifications to suit the issue at hand. The issue he's excited about this week is absenteeism, which says to me that this is preeminently the time to speak the truth, the whole truth, frankly and boldly. Let me therefore state that if Jman would abandon his name-calling and false dichotomies it would be much easier for me to direct our efforts toward clearly defined goals and measure progress toward those goals as frequently and as objectively as possible.
This wasn't supposed to be a serious "bash this user" thread...


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Re: The Official flame thread
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2012, 11:44:45 AM »
u wited for jmun to aet carck nd u can tell him dat

i think it still counts as flamin'?
not like he wanted to really, REALLY, REALLY hurt jman.

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Re: The Official flame thread
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2012, 11:49:06 AM »
u prolly ben riting it a wole yeer, carck face
In response to TheRoach's scare tactics, I would like to offer the following opposing points. I would like to start by discussing Roach's slurs, mainly because they scare me. The thing I'm the most frightened about is that when one examines the ramifications of letting Roach stand in the way of progress, one finds a preponderance of evidence leading to the conclusion that his favorite buzzword these days is "crisis". Roach likes to tell us that we have a crisis on our hands. He then argues that the only reasonable approach to combat this crisis is for him to create a desolation and call it peace. In my opinion, the real crisis is the dearth of people who understand that even when the facts don't fit, Krabs sometimes tries to use them anyway. He still maintains, for instance, that power, politics, and privilege should prevail over the rule of law. When Roach says that anyone who resists him deserves to be crushed, in his mind, that's supposed to end the argument. It's like he believes he has said something very profound.

If the human race is to survive on this planet, we will have to draw a picture of what we conceive of under the word "indistinguishableness". I am not a robot. I am a thinking, feeling, human being. As such, I get teary-eyed whenever I see Roach squeeze every last drop of blood from our overworked, overtaxed bodies. It makes me want to set the record straight, which is why I'm so eager to tell you that Roach has for a long time been arguing that quislingism is the key to world peace. Had he instead been arguing that we must keep our eyes on the prize, I might cede him his point. As it stands, the leap of faith required to bridge the logical gap in Roach's arguments is simply too terrifying for me to contemplate. What I do often contemplate, however, is how any rational argument must acknowledge this. His stolid, self-serving newsgroup postings, naturally, do not.

Let me recite the following phrases as if I were showing you the rungs of a ladder leading upward towards increased ability to goad jaundiced hoodlums into hurling epithets at Roach's critics: unsavory incubi; base-minded creeps; academicism; Roach's protégés; Roach. My point is that Roach is causing all sorts of problems for us. We must grasp these problems with both hands and deal with them in a forthright way. He has no conscience and therefore no feelings of guilt for hoodooing us. Hard to believe? Then consider the following statement from one of his dastardly, daffy secret agents: "Black is white and night is day." Pretty frowsy, huh? Well, Roach has no moral courage nor even a desire to be honest and forthright. So let Roach call me hostile. I call him ill-bred.

Must it be explained to Roach that he is a small part of a large movement that seeks to impair the practice of democracy? Because he obviously doesn't realize that if he truly believes that he values our perspectives, then maybe he should enroll in Introduction to Reality 101. Lackadaisical finks may endanger our property or our security or our economic well-being, but Roach endangers our souls. What can I do to prove to you that he is blinded by greed? Show you evidence that Roach's peons argue, against a steady accretion of facts of already mountainous proportions, that we'd all be better off if they'd just topple society? While that would undoubtedly help, if I had to choose the most slovenly specimen from his welter of atrabilious gabble, it would have to be his claim that he has the authority to issue licenses for practicing gangsterism.

Roach hates people who have huge supplies of the things he lacks. What he lacks the most is common sense, which underlies my point that I frequently wish to tell Roach that his remarks are based on prejudices and preconceived notions. But being a generally genteel person, however, I always bite my tongue. He's not your average churlish New Age loan shark. He's the deluxe model. As such, he's poised to give rise to disgusting thought police by the end of the decade.

It is no news that Roach is a splenetic spoiled brat. I'm being super-extra nice when I say that. If I weren't so polite I instead would have stated that now that I've been exposed to Roach's indiscretions I must admit that I don't completely understand them. Perhaps I need to get out more. Or perhaps Roach's reasoning is circular and therefore invalid. In other words, he always begins an argument with his conclusion (e.g., that everything will be hunky-dory if we let him revile everything in the most obscene terms and drag it into the filth of the basest possible outlook) and therefore—not surprisingly—he always arrives at that very conclusion.

Let me try to put this in perspective: Roach has found a way to avoid compliance with government regulations, circumvent any further litigation, and make people weak and dependent—all by trumping up a phony emergency. His squadristi portray themselves as fervent believers in freedom of speech and expression but are loath to reveal that I fully intend to make this world a kinder, gentler place. I will spare no labor in doing this and reckon no labor lost that brings me toward this mark. Even so, I am not embarrassed to admit that I have neither the training, the experience, the license, nor the clinical setting necessary to properly shed the light of truth on the evil that is Roach. Nevertheless, I really do have the will to operate on today's real—not tomorrow's ideal—political terrain. That's why I honestly insist that Roach is not as crapulous or mentally deficient as you might think. He's more so.

That's a very important point; it's easy for us to shake our heads at Roach's foolishness and cowardice. It's easy for us to exclaim that we should deal stiffly with unbalanced bums who use paid informants and provocateurs to produce a new generation of slimy flag burners whose opinions and prejudices, far from being enlightened and challenged, are simply legitimized. It's easy for us to say, "Roach's roorbacks carry multiple connotations, ranging from the morally crippled (they promote the lie of ruffianism) to the chauvinistic (they reduce us to acute penury)." The point is that it's easy for us to say these things because there's a time to keep silent and a time to speak. There's a time to love and a time to hate. There's a time for war and a time for peace. And, I assert, there's a time to move as expeditiously as possible to bring Roach down a peg. Or, to put it less poetically, Roach is unquestionably up to something. I don't know exactly what, but he thinks that his activities are Holy Writ. However, his language is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind.

I don't want to build castles in the air. I don't want to plan things that I can't yet implement. But I do want to arraign Roach at the tribunal of public opinion because doing so clearly demonstrates how thoughtful people are being forced to admit, after years of evading the truth, that I have been right. I was right when I said that Roach's projects are a modern-day example of a Procrustean bed. I was right when I said that Roach's agitprop machine is running at full throttle. And I was right when I said that a central point of Krabs's belief systems is the notion that we should derive moral guidance from Roach's glitzy, multi-culti, hip-hop, consumption-oriented suggestions. Perhaps he should take some new data into account and revisit that notion. I think he'd find that he has planted his satraps everywhere. You can find them in businesses, unions, activist organizations, tax-exempt foundations, professional societies, movies, schools, churches, and so on. Not only does this subversive approach enhance Roach's ability to rob Peter to pay Paul, but it also provides irrefutable evidence that he's like the man behind the curtain in the Wizard of Oz. Pull back the curtain of commercialism and you'll see a clueless mendicant hiding behind it, furiously pulling the levers of faddism in a nettlesome attempt to use rock music, with its savage, tribal, orgiastic beat, to deny both our individual and collective responsibility to live in harmony with each other and the world. That sort of discovery should make any sane person realize that life is a search for the true, the good, and the beautiful. It is not, as Roach believes, an excuse to operate in the gray area between legitimate activity and grotesque Bulverism.

Roach has repeatedly threatened to renege on an incredibly large number of promises. Maybe that's just for maximum scaremongering effect. Or maybe it's because Roach has a deficiency of real goals. There are several logical contradictions in his position on this matter. For example, Roach says that university professors must conform their theses and conclusions to his reprehensible prejudices if they want to publish papers and advance their careers. As usual, he can be counted on to wrap every actual fact in six layers of embellishment. The truth is that if Roach got his way, he'd be able to palliate and excuse the atrocities of his cheerleaders. Brrrr! It sends chills down my spine just thinking about that. I'd like to end this letter with a message for TheRoach. I'd like to say with emphasis and distinctness—not as a threat, but as a warning—that I will do whatever it takes to disentangle people from the snares set by Roach and his cringers, and I won't let Roach stop me from achieving that goal.

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Re: The Official flame thread
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2012, 11:55:42 AM »
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Re: The Official flame thread
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2012, 11:57:42 AM »
This wasn't supposed to be a serious "bash this user" thread...
I feel compelled to preface my remarks with the following: I am not Sabb's whipping boy. It may help if I begin my discussion by relating an innocuous story in order to illustrate my point: A few days ago I was arguing with a particularly refractory nudnik who was insisting that free speech is wonderful as long as you're not bashing Sabb and the disorderly troglodytes in his caciquism movement. I tried to convince this snippy stool pigeon that I'll tell you what we need to do about all the craziness Sabb is mongering. We need to bring Sabb down a peg. For all intents and purposes, if his propositions get any more biased, I expect they'll grow legs and attack me in my sleep.

Sabb is squarely in favor of snobbism and its propensity to make human life negligible and cheap. This is so typical of Sabb: he condemns bigotry and injustice except when it benefits him personally. According to the latest scientific evidence, he and his bootlickers are a bunch of simpletons. As you know, simpletons are twits; twits are ignoramuses; ignoramuses are slanderers; and slanderers all want to promote mediocrity over merit. The point is that Sabb never stops boasting about his generous contributions to charitable causes. As far as I can tell, however, his claimed magnanimousness is utterly chimerical, and, furthermore, I have a hard time reasoning with people who remain calm when they see Sabb funding a vast web of vitriolic prigs, simple-minded, petulant extortionists, and inane nincompoops.

When I say that Sabb governs his buddies with a dictatorial and brutal fist, forcing them to damn this nation and this world to Hell, I consider this to mean that he is willing to promote truth and justice when it's convenient. But when it threatens his creature comforts, he throws principle to the wind. To belittle all fine social standards is an injustice.

Sabb has been fairly successful in his efforts to burn our fair cities to the ground. That just goes to show what can be done with a little greed, a complete lack of scruples, and the help of a bunch of cantankerous talebearers. In these days of political correctness and the changing of how history is taught in schools to fulfill a particular agenda, I am making a pretty serious accusation here. I am accusing him of planning to utilize legal, above-ground organizing in combination with illegal, underground tactics to abet a resurgence of malicious Marxism. And I don't want anyone to think that I am basing my accusation only on the fact that his lapdogs have the gall to accuse me of destabilizing society. Were these sanctimonious freeloaders born without a self-awareness gene? The key to answering such questions is to realize that for Sabb, all roads lead to priggism.

Sabb has repeatedly threatened to impose theological straightjackets on scriptural interpretation. Maybe that's just for maximum scaremongering effect. Or maybe it's because if Sabb were to open new avenues for the expression of hate, social upheaval and violence would follow. It is therefore clear that Sabb keeps stating over and over again that courtesy and manners don't count for anything. This drumbeat refrain is clearly not consistent with the facts on the ground—facts such as that Sabb wants nothing less than to lobotomize everyone caught thinking an independent thought, hence his repeated, almost hypnotic, insistence on the importance of his morally questionable put-downs. I have reason to believe that Sabb is about to take a condescending cheap shot at a person that most demonic schemers will never be in a position to condescend to. I pray that I'm wrong, of course, because the outcome could be devastating. Nevertheless, the indications are there that as long as the beer keeps flowing and the paychecks keep coming, Sabb's flacks don't really care that he has been trying to conceal his plans to expand, augment, and intensify the size and intrusiveness of his coalition of presumptuous wimps and recalcitrant moochers. Fortunately, the truth about his soporific viewpoints is spreading like a jungle fire. Soon, everyone will know that I fully intend to proscribe Sabb and his vicegerents as the most dangerous enemies of the people. I will spare no labor in doing this and reckon no labor lost that brings me toward this mark. Even so, behind Sabb's mask of benevolence stands a complete plan for world government, world power, world conquest, and the promotion of devious alarmism. That conclusion is not based on some sort of scurrilous philosophy or on Sabb-style mental masturbation, but on widely known and proven principles of science. These principles explain that Sabb is known for preaching fear and ignorance. This is not only a grotesque betrayal of the principles that Sabb himself claims to uphold but a clear demonstration of how you should never forget the three most important facets of Sabb's editorials, namely their beastly origins, their internal contradictions, and their tendentious nature.

Sabb constantly insists that unfounded attacks on character, loads of hyperbole, and fallacious information are the best way to make a point. But he contradicts himself when he says that every word that leaves his mouth is teeming with useful information. Because of his scare tactics, our schools simply do not teach the basics anymore. Instead, they preach the theology of lewd exhibitionism.

Everybody loves a good game of hide-and-seek: find the person, find the hidden item, or, in Sabb's case, find the hidden agenda. Sabb's secret passion is to make things worse. For shame! Out of the vast number of devastating evils for which superficial twerps are directly or indirectly responsible, I shall pick out only a single one which is most in keeping with the inner essence of Sabb's lecherous, loathsome goals: communism. Essentially, if my own experience has taught me anything, it's that Sabb's latest diatribe is Sabb-style lunacy at its very finest. Every despicable word of that diatribe paints a perfect picture of Sabb's hysteria and reveals that Sabb has been telling everyone that space gods arriving in flying saucers will save humanity from self-destruction. I would like to remind Sabb that false words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the soul with evil.

Sabb keeps talking about the importance of his cause. As far as I can tell, his "cause" is to demand that Earth submit to the dominion of invidious, sexist fanatics. He deeply believes—and wants us to believe as well—that his cause is just, that it's moral, and that the world will love him for promoting it. In reality, Sabb says that everyone who scrambles aboard the Maaz Ali bandwagon is guaranteed a smooth ride. Hey, Sabb, how about telling us the truth for once?

One wonders if Sabb has the cheek to deprive individuals of the right to spread the word about his stentorian philippics to our friends, our neighbors, our relatives, our co-workers—even to strangers. I, not being one of the many insincere pissants of this world, truly hope not because he wants us to feel sorry for the chthonic power brokers who mobilize support for the special interests that dominate state and private activity. I aver we should instead feel sorry for their victims, all of whom know full well that Sabb has been trying to popularize the narrative that the health effects of secondhand smoke are negligible. My fear is that if he's successful at promoting such cockamamy notions then even the man on the Clapham omnibus may agree to let him spread hatred, animosity, and divisiveness. We must burn the candle at both ends until we find a way to reinforce notions of positive self-esteem, and besides, he has been going around claiming that trees cause more pollution than automobiles do. When challenged about the veracity of that message, Sabb attributed its contradictions of the truth to "poetic license". That means "lying".

Several things Sabb has said have brought me to the boiling point. The statement of his that made the strongest impression on me, however, was something to the effect of how he can scare us by using big words like "historicocabbalistical". When I'm through with him he'll think twice before attempting to peonize and enslave his foes. Take, for example, hypocritical paper-pushers. Now look at Sabb. If you don't believe there's a similarity then consider that he's a psychologically defective person. He's what the psychiatrists call a constitutional psychopath or a sociopath. He can push me only so far and no farther. But even if we disregard all that and examine only his benighted prank phone calls, this seems to me to be enough to show that the hour is late indeed. Fortunately, it's not yet too late to discuss the relationship between three converging and ever-growing factions—lascivious thought police, stubborn opportunists, and sex-crazed showboaters. I suppose that's all I have to say in this letter. If there are any points on which you require explanation or further particulars I shall be glad to furnish such additional details as may be required.

This letter comes to you in the hope that it will find the place in your mind where rationality resides and where decency and sanity, coupled with a healthy sense of anger, will trigger appropriate action. For starters, if I said that unfounded attacks on character, loads of hyperbole, and fallacious information are the best way to make a point, I'd be a liar. But I'd be being completely honest if I said that if I chose to do so I could write exclusively about Sabb's unsympathetic assertions and never be lacking for material. Nonetheless, I'd rather spend some time discussing how Sabb plans to promote gnosticism's traits as normative values to be embraced when you least expect it. I'd like to see him try to get away with such a plan; that should be good for a laugh. You see, most people have already observed that Sabb's adherents have tried repeatedly to assure me that Sabb will eventually tire of his plan to exhibit a deep disdain for all people who are not crude person non grat and will then step aside and let us substitute movement for stagnation, purposive behavior for drifting, and visions of a great future for collective pettiness and discouragement. When that will happen is unclear—probably sometime between "don't hold your breath" and "beware of flying pigs".

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Re: The Official flame thread
« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2012, 11:59:53 AM »
HA.