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Seeing wraiths with flashlight needs changed
« on: January 23, 2012, 05:49:14 AM »
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"COMPLETELY invisible while standing still"
Not really, As soon as wave4 starts, humans just turn on their flashlights rendering wraiths nearly useless for "Suprise attacks"
This needs changed to be as said "completely" invisible while standing still,
Change material of wraiths to moving seethrough one, Thats the fix i think
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Re: Seeing wraiths with flashlight needs changed
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2012, 05:53:29 AM »
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I thought the point of wraiths is that flashlights can find them and they have to be extra ninja when trying to kill humans. I can manage easily as wraith as a percentage of humans dont switch their flashlights on.

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Re: Seeing wraiths with flashlight needs changed
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2012, 08:56:11 AM »
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I thought the point of wraiths is that flashlights can find them and they have to be extra ninja when trying to kill humans. I can manage easily as wraith as a percentage of humans dont switch their flashlights on.

The point of wraiths is that they're visible WHILE MOVING. You have to be extra ninja by NOT MOVING. If you want to keep wraiths visible under flashlight, we should at least add a flashlight battery of some sort.

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Re: Seeing wraiths with flashlight needs changed
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2012, 12:13:35 PM »
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The point of wraiths is that they're visible WHILE MOVING. You have to be extra ninja by NOT MOVING. If you want to keep wraiths visible under flashlight, we should at least add a flashlight battery of some sort.

I always thought a FEAR-esque battery timer for ZS would be really cool.


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Re: Seeing wraiths with flashlight needs changed
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2012, 12:48:47 PM »
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I don't think it is possible. I know that, by default, the flashlight shader cast shadows of models and world geometry even if it is invisible.
To change this would require changing the C++ code for the server itself and rework the flashlight shader.

There probably is a work around but adding a flashlight battery can easily be done with lua.
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Re: Seeing wraiths with flashlight needs changed
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2012, 02:12:03 PM »
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I thought the point of wraiths is that flashlights can find them and they have to be extra ninja when trying to kill humans.

That's while moving.

The issue is that they are supposed to be invisible completely when the wraith is completely still.

IMO, they should fix that - OR, OR if it can't be done (by which I mean physically, not being too assed to do so), make it so the text no longer claims wraiths can be invisible completely while still.
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Re: Seeing wraiths with flashlight needs changed
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2012, 09:05:14 PM »
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Uh Mayan, you DO know I made a guide on how to fix this right?

http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,10381.0.html

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Re: Seeing wraiths with flashlight needs changed
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2012, 09:15:20 PM »
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I don't think it is possible. I know that, by default, the flashlight shader cast shadows of models and world geometry even if it is invisible.
To change this would require changing the C++ code for the server itself and rework the flashlight shader.

There probably is a work around but adding a flashlight battery can easily be done with lua.
Didn't Noxious.net fix the flashlight glitch with the invisible wraith? Because I remember shinning a flashlight directly at a wraith, and nothing was there until it moved up to me and fucked my shit up.

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Re: Seeing wraiths with flashlight needs changed
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2012, 09:53:28 AM »
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Uh Mayan, you DO know I made a guide on how to fix this right?

http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,10381.0.html

We're talking about server-side
Not client-side

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Re: Seeing wraiths with flashlight needs changed
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2012, 02:17:37 PM »
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We're talking about server-side
Not client-side

People can still do the method I posted and it doesn't take long, instead of making Coolz do all the work (editing server stuff)

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Re: Seeing wraiths with flashlight needs changed
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2012, 02:21:20 PM »
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People can still do the method I posted and it doesn't take long, instead of making Coolz do all the work (editing server stuff)
I think you're misunderstanding. Mayan wants the Wraith to be more "invisible" .-.



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Re: Seeing wraiths with flashlight needs changed
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2012, 02:54:54 PM »
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I think you're misunderstanding. Mayan wants the Wraith to be more "invisible" .-.
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Re: Seeing wraiths with flashlight needs changed
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2012, 02:14:55 PM »
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While we're on the subject of wraiths, can we make it so that they move super slowly when crouching but remain invisible? I think that'd be fairly balanced.
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Re: Seeing wraiths with flashlight needs changed
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2012, 04:51:15 PM »
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While we're on the subject of wraiths, can we make it so that they move super slowly when crouching but remain invisible? I think that'd be fairly balanced.

that wouldn't work out to good if you were trying to get through a vent
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Re: Seeing wraiths with flashlight needs changed
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2012, 05:47:47 PM »
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that wouldn't work out to good if you were trying to get through a vent

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While we're on the subject of wraiths, can we make it so that they move super slowly when crouching but remain invisible? I think that'd be fairly balanced.

What I do is hold CTRL+ALT so I walk and crouch. You move slow enough to be near-invisible, just gotta be careful.


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