.:`=-~rANdOm~`-=:. Game Servers
.:`=-~rANdOm~`-=:. Game Servers (Read Only) => Discussion => Topic started by: Pieguy880 on March 12, 2011, 03:06:04 PM
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Alright, lately there have been a bunch of annoying people on these servers. They excessively break the rules, annoy other players on purpose, kill people for fun, etc. They're mostly Russian, so most of them don't understand English- so they can't read the rules... We need VIPs or something- On Winter Survival ESPECIALLY. So someone halp out, either come over here and kick them, or promote some people who regularly play to VIPs so we can enjoy a nice game on a nice server.
-Pieguy :)
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you have an option to apply for reg/VIP, WS is not a server most play on therefore it is rarely any VIP plays there at all.
But you can use the global chat to call for an admin or vip if help is needed.
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OK thanks. But how do you use the global chat thing? Sorry, kinda new to this. :P
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just use "/gl" in the chat.
example:
/gl insert text here
shows as
[your server] your text here
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you have an option to apply for reg/VIP, WS is not a server most play on therefore it is rarely any VIP plays there at all.
But you can use the global chat to call for an admin or vip if help is needed.
I always play WS....
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Thanks guys.
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Remove WS and replace it with a dedicated Onslaught.
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why would you care you got a perma ban over your head
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why would you care you got a perma ban over your head
sorry, sometimes i care about communities... not sure you would recognize that.
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Remove WS and replace it with a dedicated Onslaught.
(http://www.gametracker.com/images/graphs/server_players.php?GSID=1084746&start=-1w&request=05613452702716468[/url]]www.gametracker.com/images/graphs/server_players.php?GSID=1084746&start=-1w&request=05613452702716468)
This is the graph for the # of players in the last week. The server has almost never been empty so I don't think we should remove it.
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lol never said i didnt care for the community, but my care doesnt fit what you define as care
trying to insult me doesnt help ur situation as being banned from the servers
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lol never said i didnt care for the community, but my care doesnt fit what you define as care
trying to insult me doesnt help ur situation as being banned from the servers
i wasn't trying to insult you, you just kind of made an asshat comment though :I
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its not an asshat comment, you get the comment you deserve for being stupid enough to disobey higher authorities
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its not an asshat comment, you get the comment you deserve for being stupid enough to disobey higher authorities
All I'm saying is that maybe for once in your life, you could actually be nice and not rub it in.
Of course, I wouldn't expect that from you of all people.
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no im nice, there are several people i am nice to... theres a reason for that
clearly you dont fit in any of those reasons if im not nice to you
maybe if you wouldnt cry everytime for 1 day ban complaining how difficult life
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no im nice, there are several people i am nice to... theres a reason for that
clearly you dont fit in any of those reasons if im not nice to you
maybe if you wouldnt cry everytime for 1 day ban complaining how difficult life
You know, I'm permabanned and I haven't made a single post, thread, or message about it. I haven't told anyone unless they specifically asked me.
Under those circumstances, you don't really have a right to say that I cry about it.
On the other hand, you take every opportunity you can to insult me in whatever way possible.
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cuz i think your pathetic LOL
every time youve come and talked to me on steam, i hear you cry about shit being unfair then at the end of the convo you go on about how life is so hard and no one can understand u cuz its so tough living
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cuz i think your pathetic LOL
every time youve come and talked to me on steam, i hear you cry about shit being unfair then at the end of the convo you go on about how life is so hard and no one can understand u cuz its so tough living
I said to you ONCE that I was sorry for my behavior because I was having a hard week.
Again, reiterating my previous point:
Under those circumstances, you don't really have a right to say that I cry about it.
On the other hand, you take every opportunity you can to insult me in whatever way possible.
Maybe you should read the post above yours first.
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it's okay, life will go on.
moo will continue trolling people
servers will continue being ddos'd 24/7
yomocorp will continue to wash away
threads will continue to be derailed
the community will continue to disintegrate
i love you
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it's okay, life will go on.
moo will continue trolling people
servers will continue being ddos'd 24/7
yomocorp will continue to wash away
threads will continue to be derailed
the community will continue to disintegrate
i love you
>entire forum summed up in one post
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you complained twice like that, once is fine with an apology, twice is a little stupid....
and not every chance, if I did id be a forum troll/spammer like you
if you havent noticed i dislike the people that are either (A) STUPID (B) STUPID (C) STUPID or (D) STUPID
theres the occasional (E) STUPID but only in some cases
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and not every chance, if I did id be a forum troll/spammer like you
You're saying that I constantly insult people?
Also,
you complained twice like that
every time youve come and talked to me on steam, i hear you cry about shit
Yes, I've talked to you on Steam only twice, ever. To put this in terms you can understand, how about you:
- Think before you post
- Think before you post
- Think before you post
- Think before you post
- And if you feel generous, think before you post.
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Wasn't this thread about annoying people on the ws server or something?
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lol think before I post?
i suggest u think before you post and if u noticed that I never said constantly insult people
i say TROLL/SPAM
im not sure if you read that but its there
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Oh guise you so funny.
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lol think before I post?
i suggest u think before you post and if u noticed that I never said constantly insult people
im not sure if you read that but its there
and not every chance, if I did id be a forum troll/spammer like you
You were saying that if you DID constantly insult people, you'd be like me.
That's implying that I do the same.
Anything else you want me to explain to you?
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LOL k lets take this shit apart gayfreak
lets see...
On the other hand, you take every opportunity you can to insult me in whatever way possible.
not every chance (to your insulting you whatever way possible)
if I did id (if the player Moo does post)
be a forum troll/spammer like you (he would in the end be like you postin on the forums)
**EDIT**
Ohhhs hit I just saw that you said you havent made any post about being perma banned, SHIT FORGOT HOW HARD IT WAS TO PLAY CRACKED GMOD, oh fk mybadnidnotlrn24get
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LOL k lets take this shit apart gayfreak
im not sure if you read that but its there
i dislike the people that are either (A) STUPID (B) STUPID (C) STUPID or (D) STUPID
cuz i think your pathetic LOL
every time youve come and talked to me on steam, i hear you cry about shit being unfair then at the end of the convo you go on about how life is so hard and no one can understand u cuz its so tough living
maybe if you wouldnt cry everytime for 1 day ban complaining how difficult life
you get the comment you deserve for being stupid enough to disobey higher authorities
So... you don't insult me every chance you get... but you've posted something either demeaning, unnecessary, or mean in every single post so far.
Excellent logic.
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NOICE WAY TO limit your brain to 1 section of the forum, i blieve we have a genius at work plz everyone notroll :trollface:
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NOICE WAY TO limit your brain to 1 section of the forum, i blieve we have a genius at work plz everyone notroll :trollface:
...what? ._.
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- Think before you post
- Think before you post
- Think before you post
- Think before you post
- And if you feel generous, think before you post.
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Okay, I just spent the last 10 minutes trying to decipher your 4th-grade grammar skills so that I could know what you're talking about.
I believe that's "thinking", and I'm about to post.
Therefore, I'm going to think before I post.
Now that I have that out of the way:
What the fuck are you talking about now?
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LOL K got nothing else but to attack internet grammar, NOICE DOOD
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LOL K got nothing else but to attack internet grammar, NOICE DOOD
....
I'm just going to go to bed, and hope that in the morning you make sense.
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(http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz46/wutareulookinfor/umad.jpg)
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apologies bout ur anger sir
and that you cant follow a thread
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So now that one of the two conflicting parties are gone (sleeping), lets go back on topic!
The number of reports there are now is pretty high. Are there not enough VIP's on the server to kick the minges, causing normal players to take it into their own hands...?
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All I'm saying is that maybe for once in your life, you could actually be nice and not rub it in.
Of course, I wouldn't expect that from you of all people.
Coming from gamefreak...
I lol'd.
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I don't see what there is to argue about now... from my point of view, it seemed like Moo was trying to evade the argument by derailing the already-derailed thread.
If he wants to do that, I'm okay with it.
Also, @rocket:
It's mostly because of the imposing standards one has to meet for getting VIP. There are alot of responsible candidates that don't get approved because not enough people know them, or some people don't know them well enough. Reporting someone usually merits harsher punishment for the one breaking the rules, so it's preferred for some.
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Back on topics, folks.
OP is actually saying something very much true at the moment. All servers are overpopulated by a massive amount of trolls who strangely all appear to have Regular. Because it's handed out like respected used to.
inb4hurritcantbeabused because YES, IT FUCKING CAN.
How do you think VIPs kick? By insta kicking? We RELY on Regulars for our powers to be worth a damn. The solution isn't to "make more VIPs", it's to be much stricter with the Regular system in my opinion. If there are 3 people trolling and two of them have Regular, that's already enough to render the VIP's power absolutely useless. But whatever.
Or, to put this into a different perspective.
We have 21 VIPs and 9 active Admins.
RND has 7 servers (not including Plain and Flood).
This makes an average of 1 admin and 3 VIPs per server.
On the other hand, there are 241 Regulars (probably more) spread out on 7 servers.
Don't blame us VIPs for not taking care of the servers - we do our best, but we aren't gods.
And yes, I have just talked about a completely different subject after saying how much I agree with OP's topic. Problem?
It's mostly because of the imposing standards one has to meet for getting VIP. There are alot of responsible candidates that don't get approved because not enough people know them, or some people don't know them well enough.
Honestly the only ones that truly meet all the criterias required for VIP right now would be Deacon and Yomo.
Others aren't active enough, only play one server, just don't fit VIP, and so on.
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Yeah, but the problem is everyone is a guest on WS. I only saw one regular on it in my time.
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Back on topics, folks.
OP is actually saying something very much true at the moment. All servers are overpopulated by a massive amount of trolls who strangely all appear to have Regular. Because it's handed out like respected used to.
inb4hurritcantbeabused because YES, IT FUCKING CAN.
How do you think VIPs kick? By insta kicking? We RELY on Regulars for our powers to be worth a damn. The solution isn't to "make more VIPs", it's to be much stricter with the Regular system in my opinion. If there are 3 people trolling and two of them have Regular, that's already enough to render the VIP's power absolutely useless. But whatever.
Or, to put this into a different perspective.
We have 21 VIPs and 9 active Admins.
RND has 7 servers (not including Plain and Flood).
This makes an average of 1 admin and 3 VIPs per server.
On the other hand, there are 241 Regulars (probably more) spread out on 7 servers.
Don't blame us VIPs for not taking care of the servers - we do our best, but we aren't gods.
And yes, I have just talked about a completely different subject after saying how much I agree with OP's topic. Problem?
Honestly the only ones that truly meet all the criterias required for VIP right now would be Deacon and Yomo.
Others aren't active enough, only play one server, just don't fit VIP, and so on.
Kinda makes sense but I rarely see votekicks/votebans being started, let alone having regulars to vote. It seems some VIPs doesn't care unless it affect them personally. Some.
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i have an idea.
giving vips power to automatically kick and start ban votes.
and giving trusted regulars. the power to start votekicking.
i dont know it might have flaws
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i dont know it might have flaws
That has many flaws.
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That has many flaws.
well i was thinking on enforcing the TRUSTED part of that.
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Re-adding respected to the hierarchy?
You must have at least 1/3'rd of all admin votes
( Even though regs have this, almost all of them get approved with just general members of the community +1'ing. Most of them only have one, or even no admin approvals)
Respected has ability to vote kick. That's it.
Give VIP's ability to instant kid, and vote ban.
Y/N?
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Re-adding respected to the hierarchy?
You must have at least 1/3'rd of all admin votes
( Even though regs have this, almost all of them get approved with just general members of the community +1'ing. Most of them only have one, or even no admin approvals)
Respected has ability to vote kick. That's it.
Give VIP's ability to instant kid, and vote ban.
Y/N?
Respected can still use tools right?
I think its fine how it is now.
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i have an idea.
giving vips power to automatically kick and start ban votes.
and giving trusted regulars. the power to start votekicking.
i dont know it might have flaws
Where were you 2-3 years ago.
It was called respected. 90% of ppl abused it. the end.
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Respected can still use tools right?
I think its fine how it is now.
By Re-add, I mean
> Regular
> Respected
> VIP
Not replacing regular with respected. That'd be terrible.
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Where were you 2-3 years ago.
It was called respected. 90% of ppl abused it. the end.
Well yeah, that's because Tomcat gave it to everyone.
He approved me with no votes at all.
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By Re-add, I mean
> Regular
> Respected
> VIP
Not replacing regular with respected. That'd be terrible.
I don't really like the term "respected". It's sort of like saying you shouldn't respect anyone but them.
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I don't really like the term "respected". It's sort of like saying you shouldn't respect anyone but them.
Whatever.
You get my point.
And by respected, it's like "A respected member of the community".
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Bringing respected back in any form is only going to make matters worse ...
What I am saying is that Regular has to be handed out more strictly, nothing else, nothing more.
Unfortunately VIPs can't just "HURR I DOENT LIEK THIS GAI LEMME BAN HIM LULZ" ... The majority of you seems to think that VIPs are some battery-driven kicking/banning machines, but we have to follow certain rules too.
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Bringing respected back in any form is only going to make matters worse ...
What I am saying is that Regular has to be handed out more strictly, nothing else, nothing more.
Unfortunately VIPs can't just "HURR I DOENT LIEK THIS GAI LEMME BAN HIM LULZ" ... The majority of you seems to think that VIPs are some battery-driven kicking/banning machines, but we have to follow certain rules too.
That, and the fact there's not many VIP's.
And there's little-to-no more good candidates for it either.
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Instead of proposing more regulation on the approval of regular members, reports of abuse of regular would help this problem - it's how the system is designed.
If people are abusing and avoiding votekick/bans with their privileges, record and they will be met with a demote.
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Instead of proposing more regulation on the approval of regular members, reports of abuse of regular would help this problem - it's how the system is designed.
If people are abusing and avoiding votekick/bans with their privileges, record and they will be met with a demote.
Then promote to admin
...Right?
....RIGHT?!?!?!
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Then promote to admin
...Right?
....RIGHT?!?!?!
What
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well this discussion came out interesting.
Instead of proposing more regulation on the approval of regular members, reports of abuse of regular would help this problem - it's how the system is designed.
If people are abusing and avoiding votekick/bans with their privileges, record and they will be met with a demote.
well i just have seen guest reports.
the problem is that there arent many people that want to fill a report
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The majority of you seems to think that VIPs are some battery-driven kicking/banning machines, but we have to follow certain rules too.
This!!!
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I would like some more variety.
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I would like some more variety.
i would like my name to be orange
my tag will be (LOL)
its a new class
you probably haven't heard of it.
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its a new class
you probably haven't heard of it.
hipster
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I still think theres a problem if we even have to report a regular. And still the entire idea that regular is given out without the guidelines being enforced is an issue. If the admins are supposed to set an example and enforce the rules, then how can the community respond when the admins break their own rules?
And people shouldn't post on a regular application unless they've met the person in-game, you cant tell if someones a minge by looking at their good grammar and spelling, or how their application looks.
Regular is currently being handed out at about the same rate as respected, even though the guidelines are completely different. I believe that some things require you to be strict. In this case the regular guidelines need to be enforced, and players approved based on how they play in-game, not by their well structured app.
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I still think theres a problem if we even have to report a regular. And still the entire idea that regular is given out without the guidelines being enforced is an issue. If the admins are supposed to set an example and enforce the rules, then how can the community respond when the admins break their own rules?
And people shouldn't post on a regular application unless they've met the person in-game, you cant tell if someones a minge by looking at their good grammar and spelling, or how their application looks.
Regular is currently being handed out at about the same rate as respected, even though the guidelines are completely different. I believe that some things require you to be strict. In this case the regular guidelines need to be enforced, and players approved based on how they play in-game, not by their well structured app.
Admins shouldn't need a rule stating that they should set an example.
Regulars should be the ones setting examples.
If regulars are nothing but dicks, then it turns people away from the community, which (at least the last time I checked,) is not our intent.
I don't think that things should be changed. I do think that players who apply for regulars...must actually BE regular players. Not just people that showed up and went "wow i liek fretta look im kliener" and decided they wanted to have a fancy blue tag next to them.
So in closing, I am in support of reporting regulars that do not do their job, or are just generally bastards to people. Think about it this way:
If you were an manager of a grocery store, and one of your employees said "hello, welcome to -a;sdjg;astore-", then turned and threw eggs at them, you would fire their ass in a heartbeat.
I think (correct me if I'm wrong) that the reason we apply for regular in the first place is to make sure that we are able to handle the responsibility of voting. Which is, in itself, pretty damn pathetic, that we can't let people be trusted with the slightest of responsibility.
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Well, I think the problem in general is the lack of players with the ability to actually do an immediate action about a minge. Ok, let's say the VIP system was meant to allow more reports and yes, that seems to be working but, it's kind of a 'after the act' punishment.
The job of the VIP is to remove a minging player while they are annoying or griefing other players, but with reporting, the damage has already been done, players were minged, and the reports come far after the minging acts. Some of which aren't even approved from lack of evidence
With reporting regular, again, its an 'after the act' kind of thing; damage has been done, so its better to prevent the damage now, rather than removing the -person causing it- later after they had already done so.
In synopsis, more RELIABLE VIP's = Less minging in general and less reports.
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Well, I think the problem in general is the lack of players with the ability to actually do an immediate action about a minge. Ok, let's say the VIP system was meant to allow more reports and yes, that seems to be working but, it's kind of a 'after the act' punishment.
The job of the VIP is to remove a minging player while they are annoying or griefing other players, but with reporting, the damage has already been done, players were minged, and the reports come far after the minging acts. Some of which aren't even approved from lack of evidence
With reporting regular, again, its an 'after the act' kind of thing; damage has been done, and its better to prevent the damage now, rather than removing the -person causing it- later after they had already done so.
In synopsis, more RELIABLE VIP's = Less minging in general and less reports.
good luck finding reliable vips.
no one trusts anyone else
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good luck finding reliable vips.
no one trusts anyone else
Everyone is still paranoid from the whole 'excessive amounts of respected' time.
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Everyone is still paranoid from the whole 'excessive amounts of respected' time.
I wouldn't know lol
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I wouldn't know lol
Here is a player that was given respected:
Rocket50 was respected
Myppl8
Got the idea now?
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I can describe the respected system in 3 words:
NO FUN ALLOWED
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LOL very nice, the both of you
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I wouldn't know lol
Imagine every regular we have now,
Having vip abilities.
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Imagine every regular we have now,
Having vip abilities.
-insertRE4style"OHNO"
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-insertRE4style"OHNO"
LEEEE
OOOON
HAAAAALP
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RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE
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Well this isn't what I expected. =P
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In synopsis, more RELIABLE VIP's = Less minging in general and less reports.
I apologize sincerely for not being a mindless kicking machine.
What was I thinking when not banning everyone I meet on the servers.
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I apologize sincerely for not being a mindless kicking machine.
What was I thinking when not banning everyone I meet on the servers.
(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ldp3jukzHo1qb9a2wo1_500.png)
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I apologize sincerely for not being a mindless kicking machine.
What was I thinking when not banning everyone I meet on the servers.
>Implying I said that current VIPs are unreliable
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>Implying I said that current VIPs are unreliable
>yes, you did
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>yes, you did
there were too ways to take that.
current vips need to have more reliability
there needs to be more vips that are reliable
either way.....profit?
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there were too ways to take that.
current vips need to have more reliability
there needs to be more vips that are reliable
either way.....profit?
both and umad
but srs both
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They're mostly Russian....
Why does that one guy on ZS comes to mind... the one that everybody is complaining about by the time I join the game? :pacman:
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there were too ways to take that.
current vips need to have more reliability
there needs to be more vips that are reliable
either way.....profit?
What I meant was more VIP's that are expected to be reliable, not just random players who seem to be 'cool' on the servers.
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What I meant was more VIP's that are expected to be reliable, not just random players who seem to be 'cool' on the servers.
> Implying any curent VIP is "cool"
Wait did i just insult myself :(
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> Implying any curent VIP is "cool"
Wait did i just insult myself :(
:thumbsup:
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What I meant was more VIP's that are expected to be reliable, not just random players who seem to be 'cool' on the servers.
I don't see how any of the current VIPs are just "random players who seem to be 'cool' on the servers".
Care to share any names?
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Instead of proposing more regulation on the approval of regular members, reports of abuse of regular would help this problem - it's how the system is designed.
If people are abusing and avoiding votekick/bans with their privileges, record and they will be met with a demote.
The problem with that is simply that when you report a Regular, he gets BANNED, not DEMOTED.
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I don't see how any of the current VIPs are just "random players who seem to be 'cool' on the servers".
Care to share any names?
AlsoThe problem with that is simply that when you report a Regular, he gets BANNED, not DEMOTED.
It should have done both...