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Title: [3 Days, Perm] Eion Kilant 739 Ban/kick evasion after some reveng
Post by: Shockah on June 24, 2012, 07:27:31 PM
Player's SteamID (Multiple)
STEAM_0:0:25990455
STEAM_0:1:34932198

Players Nickname
Eion Kilant 739

Your in-game name
Shockah Zulu

Server name
TTT, Trouble in Terrorist Town

Description of the event(s)
It started when I killed Eion for reasons he didn't see fit. I had killed him for being with a T of which he had dna on and not killing him on top of generally acting like a T and following me when I told him specifically several times to go away. He then proceeded to rage about how unfair of a kill it was and the next round he spent asking everyone of my whereabouts literally the entire round. I had died in the very start of the match and been thrown down a hole by a T. The next round he found me in the start of the round walked up to me and proceeded to snipe me in the head then proclaiming that, "His job here was done". After kicking him the map switched. Right after it switched he returned on his alt account evading the minuscule 10 minute kick. He then proceeded to find me and try and unload on me with his terribly low karma that his alt possesses. After yet another kick, the kick on his other account had expired and he returned on it. He then returned under his new alias of which he was imitating another player on at the time Captain David I believe. Evading yet again the kick that took place on that account. After a swift random 60minute kick from one of the other VIP's present at the time Foofoojack I've yet to see him return.

Reason for action
Primarily the evading I had no intention of filing any form of report for just one revenge first blood rdm. I felt a kick would suffice it wasn't until he came back on an alt and continued to do the same I felt the need to report.

Proof/Evidence
http://imageshack.us/f/337/2012062400008.png/ (http://imageshack.us/f/337/2012062400008.png/)
Steam ID #1

http://imageshack.us/f/689/2012062400009.png/ (http://imageshack.us/f/689/2012062400009.png/)
Steam ID #2 after initial vote kick on his alt

http://imageshack.us/f/4/2012062400012.jpg/ (http://imageshack.us/f/4/2012062400012.jpg/)
Complaints about the kill I made on him.

http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/542930855873015060/C29A383AF9FC0199A6AC42E2434028EEDF38367D/ (http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/542930855873015060/C29A383AF9FC0199A6AC42E2434028EEDF38367D/)
Attempts to rdm me on his alt.

http://imageshack.us/f/814/2012062400026.jpg/ (http://imageshack.us/f/814/2012062400026.jpg/)
After he attempted to rdm me on his alt.

http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/542930855873320829/14CDEEBE6E1513C441186E76ACF879B23534C7C6/ (http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/542930855873320829/14CDEEBE6E1513C441186E76ACF879B23534C7C6/)
Coming back under a different alias (matching steam ids) impersonating another to avoid yet another kick.

http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/542930855873322381/E2893F4A95E5C37567C9A3B6BE9C9224DE897B02/ (http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/542930855873322381/E2893F4A95E5C37567C9A3B6BE9C9224DE897B02/)
Blatant disrespect and more of him attempting to impersonate.

Additional information
After the first blood rdm I didn't take any screenies because I didn't feel they'd be necessary. I'd not known Eion to be a trouble maker so I figured he's simply take his 10 minute time out with stride it was my own fault for not thinking. I'm sure however that any of the players there would attest to the fact that it did happen and isn't exactly all that important I didn't intend on making a big deal of it in the first place. The primary reason for this report his his attempts to evade and impersonate to get in and continue to rdm me. In short if he had simply taken said 10 minute kick and just waited it out there wouldn't have been any further action taken.
Title: Re: Eion Kilant 739 Ban/kick evasion after some revenge F.B. with a side of target
Post by: Foofoojack on June 24, 2012, 07:33:39 PM
I was (obviously) there to see it all, and took some action.

I believe this report shows everything that Eion has wrongfully done and should be punished for it.

The revenge/target RDMing was just way over the top.
Title: Re: Eion Kilant 739 Ban/kick evasion after some revenge F.B. with a side of target
Post by: Pilot on June 24, 2012, 07:41:28 PM
I was there the whole time too, Eion is definitely guilty of everything Shockah said in his post.
Title: Re: Eion Kilant 739 Ban/kick evasion after some revenge F.B. with a side of target
Post by: Alkaline on June 24, 2012, 07:51:39 PM
I was (obviously) there to see it all, and took some action.

I believe this report shows everything that Eion has wrongfully done and should be punished for it.

The revenge/target RDMing was just way over the top.

I think the fact that he has an alt account and openly uses it to his leisure is enough for a perma.
Earlier today, he was being a dick. Here's a picture of him about to prop-push if we got any closer:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Also, during a game of cs_office, I noticed another player impersonating Eion (but with one more space in his name). That guy is apparently the alt account you showed us here.
Title: Re: Eion Kilant 739 Ban/kick evasion after some revenge F.B. with a side of target
Post by: ·UηİŦ·· on June 24, 2012, 07:55:58 PM
just

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Eion Kilant 739 Ban/kick evasion after some revenge F.B. with a side of target
Post by: Shockah on June 24, 2012, 08:10:26 PM
I think the fact that he has an alt account and openly uses it to his leisure is enough for a perma.
Earlier today, he was being a dick. Here's a picture of him about to prop-push if we got any closer:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Also, during a game of cs_office, I noticed another player impersonating Eion (but with one more space in his name). That guy is apparently the alt account you showed us here.

Wait so you think someone's impersonating Eion? I just find it odd that if that's the case the impersonator would have had to coincidentally happened to target me and only me not to mention the fact that they were on one right after the other but never at the same time.
Title: Re: Eion Kilant 739 Ban/kick evasion after some revenge F.B. with a side of target
Post by: Alkaline on June 24, 2012, 08:38:21 PM
Wait so you think someone's impersonating Eion? I just find it odd that if that's the case the impersonator would have had to coincidentally happened to target me and only me not to mention the fact that they were on one right after the other but never at the same time.

No, I'm saying Eion impersonated himself with his own alt account. He was in-game on office, and then "H-something,  Bootyslap Lord" changed their name to "Eion  Kilant 379" with the added space in his name. So he could have been ghosting earlier, but that would require additional proof.
Title: Re: Eion Kilant 739 Ban/kick evasion after some revenge F.B. with a side of target
Post by: aerobro on June 24, 2012, 10:26:10 PM
 :thumbsup: I was there and he does deserve this ban.
Title: Re: Eion Kilant 739 Ban/kick evasion after some revenge F.B. with a side of target
Post by: [TTPN] ShadowMoon on June 24, 2012, 10:54:18 PM
He's a general douchebag.
Annoying, repeat RDM and much more about some months ago.
Didn't really see him around for quite some time.
Anyway,  :thumbsup: to this report.
Title: Re: Eion Kilant 739 Ban/kick evasion after some revenge F.B. with a side of target
Post by: TehHank on June 25, 2012, 05:50:29 AM
+1

Evidence is sufficient
Title: Re: Eion Kilant 739 Ban/kick evasion after some revenge F.B. with a side of target
Post by: semy32 on June 25, 2012, 06:54:05 AM
...

Stop with the useless posts saying "yes enough evidence +1".

Only people who were present / admins should post. Or people with information.


Anyway,  :thumbsup: to this report.
+1

Evidence is sufficient
Title: Re: Eion Kilant 739 Ban/kick evasion after some revenge F.B. with a side of target
Post by: TehHank on June 25, 2012, 07:37:56 AM
...

Stop with the useless posts saying "yes enough evidence +1".

Only people who were present / admins should post. Or people with information.



So then whats the point of putting evidence into a report then?

(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcShmQE_j_rYhq5sVnxjlAICHzn6VgM298TRpM7M7QBEtLZG69FqMQ:i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/554/facepalm.jpg)
Title: Re: Eion Kilant 739 Ban/kick evasion after some revenge F.B. with a side of target
Post by: Travelsonic on June 25, 2012, 09:02:12 AM
I will say that Eion's reaction was far from appropriate, and the evidence looks sufficient to me for a ban [ultimate decision obviously coming from an admin] - I mean, if you feel RDM'd  you can be po'd, I think anybody could reasonably understand somebody wanting to know why they were killed, or if they feel it was wrong, the person saying something about it, but still... all this shit is just screaming massive overreaction.

Not to stir the pot though, but I do feel that Shockah sometimes [emphasized to show I'm trying to not generalize] comes up with the stupidest bullshit to either justify killing somebody, or suspecting somebody, and it can get annoying at times, but that's for another time.

 :thumbsup: to this thread/report.
Title: Re: Eion Kilant 739 Ban/kick evasion after some revenge F.B. with a side of target
Post by: semy32 on June 25, 2012, 09:33:40 AM
So then whats the point of putting evidence into a report then?

(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcShmQE_j_rYhq5sVnxjlAICHzn6VgM298TRpM7M7QBEtLZG69FqMQ:i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/554/facepalm.jpg)

You are joking...right?.....

Well, the evidence is surely not there for "outsiders"
Title: Re: Eion Kilant 739 Ban/kick evasion after some revenge F.B. with a side of target
Post by: Shockah on June 25, 2012, 01:46:49 PM
He's a general douchebag.
Annoying, repeat RDM and much more about some months ago.
Didn't really see him around for quite some time.
Excalipoor had some useful information though semy, whether it's his opinion or not it still sheds light on Eions character. It also illustrates the fact that he causes trouble wherever he is since he's been gone for a long while the moment he gets back he goes out and does this.
Title: Re: Eion Kilant 739 Ban/kick evasion after some revenge F.B. with a side of target
Post by: semy32 on June 25, 2012, 02:34:15 PM
Well, I'm pretty sure most of you know him as a general asshole. I know him like that too. Hell, I hate him, but that's my opinion.

And basically that's why I deleted that part. Totally offtopic but:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Eion Kilant 739 Ban/kick evasion after some revenge F.B. with a side of target
Post by: [TTPN] ShadowMoon on June 26, 2012, 09:00:04 AM
He and "hardgay" made me hate zs so much

Why?
Title: Re: Eion Kilant 739 Ban/kick evasion after some revenge F.B. with a side of target
Post by: Tong on June 26, 2012, 09:02:53 AM
Never give muffins to players with butthurt problems.
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Eion Kilant 739 Ban/kick evasion after some revenge F.B. with a side of target
Post by: Eion Kilant 739 on July 03, 2012, 11:38:19 PM
My orignal response (Made at midnight).

Only good thing in this post: http://steamcommunity.com/id/76561198012246638 (http://steamcommunity.com/id/76561198012246638) and "My Steam ID is: STEAM_0:0:25990455"

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Eion Kilant 739 Ban/kick evasion after some revenge F.B. with a side of target
Post by: Juan_Ambriz on July 04, 2012, 12:14:30 AM
I'm sorry, what? You think I would waste the money on an ALT? What proof do you have that this is an ALT and not a random player who chose my name?

The only thing this proves me guilty of is A SINGLE CASE of revenge RDM. Sorry for having a bad day.

As for prop pushing, I meant to do that pre-round. I do not want to ruin someone's entire round by killing them.


EDIT: Wait, I made you hate ZS? I have not played that in many, many, months (Almost year? More?). I don't even have the server IP on my favourites list.

EDIT2: Shit, I should have read more. Steam browser is laggy. I do not have an alt, if you guys can ban this impersonator I'd love it.

EDIT3: DA FUQ? MATCHING STEAM IDS? I almost thought I got hacked, but if you go onto my actual steam ID: http://steamcommunity.com/id/76561198012246638 (http://steamcommunity.com/id/76561198012246638) You can see that I was never named "Captian David".



Three conclusions:

1. OP forged the evidence, I know how to do it myself. (Not that I ever even would, that's a pathetic lowlife thing to do.) If I must I will creat generic bogus proof and tell the admins step-by-step how to do it. I can even do it in MS paint.

2. Some doushebag is out to get me. This has happened in the past and I do not take it lightly.

3. OP made a collosal mistake and got the IP/SteamID of the guy pertending to be me.



~11:56PM I know I made spelling errors.

EDIT5: My Steam ID is: STEAM_0:0:25990455

>_> why would shockah WASTE his time to create false proof.
Title: Re: Eion Kilant 739 Ban/kick evasion after some revenge F.B. with a side of target
Post by: memo3300 on July 04, 2012, 01:53:21 AM
Don't want to be the asshole that not knowing anything about a report comes in and talk like he knews everything but...


Your steam profile does not show you haven't played under the alias of "Captian David.".... it just shows that your last 10 aliases were not "Captain David."



Title: Re: Eion Kilant 739 Ban/kick evasion after some revenge F.B. with a side of target
Post by: Shockah on July 04, 2012, 03:07:22 AM
1. I'm sorry, what? You think I would waste the money on an ALT? What proof do you have that this is an ALT and not a random player who chose my name?

2. The only thing this proves me guilty of is A SINGLE CASE of revenge RDM. Sorry for having a bad day.

3. As for prop pushing, I meant to do that pre-round. I do not want to ruin someone's entire round by killing them.

Three conclusions:

4. OP forged the evidence, I know how to do it myself. (Not that I ever even would, that's a pathetic lowlife thing to do.) If I must I will creat generic bogus proof and tell the admins step-by-step how to do it. I can even do it in MS paint.

5. Some doushebag is out to get me. This has happened in the past and I do not take it lightly.

6. OP made a collosal mistake and got the IP/SteamID of the guy pertending to be me.

I'm going to address each of these statements individually as best I can.
1. Several witnesses and myself (whom I think is pretty damn trustworthy) will testify to the fact that over a 30 minute span the moment one of you was kicked the other would show up to take their place. The "Alt" is set up like the typical alt, only has 6 pay for games all of which are relatively cheap especially if you received deals, it only has around 10 friends and a relatively small amount of time played.

2. That in and of itself is perfect grounds for action to be taken however as previously stated the evading is why I took any further action other than a scolding and kick.

3. You constantly prop push and at one point when I told you it isn't allowed as either faction (at the time he was a low karma T) you replied with, "well prepare to kick me because I'm not going to stop". This is only my word and I of course have 0 proof but it definitely did happen.

4. Yes because I live to incriminate a player who's been gone for months. I'm pretty sure if I knew how to or wanted to, you wouldn't be my target.

5. So some douchebag waited for month for you to arrive back on the servers then with his 300ish hours total played 11 friends and 6 games decided to follow you around troll you and incriminate you RIGHT AFTER you did something wrong and then proceed to change his name once he realized that it wasn't boding well for him. I can see how you'd come to that conclusion.

6. The steam Id's are 100% correct how can I make a mistake there, unless your steam id is not
STEAM_0:0:25990455
Title: Re: Eion Kilant 739 Ban/kick evasion after some revenge F.B. with a side of target
Post by: Eion Kilant 739 on July 04, 2012, 07:32:12 AM
Ok, now that I'm well rested and it's not midnight...

From the evedence you have, I do not see a connection between me and the impersonator. At all.

I have played with this impersonator myself at some point, though I'm honestly unsure of the date.

My thanks go out to Captain David for noticing the extra space. That will be handy.

Did this impersonator use the mic, as in talk in it?



EDIT:
Quote
After kicking him the map switched. Right after it switched he returned on his alt account evading the minuscule 10 minute kick. He then proceeded to find me and try and unload on me with his terribly low karma that his alt possesses. After yet another kick, the kick on his other account had expired and he returned on it. He then returned under his new alias of which he was imitating another player on at the time Captain David I believe.

You only have two Steam IDs and if you look at the Capain David steam ID screenshot you can see that it is the alt and not mine.

EDIT2: STEAM_0:1:34932198 = My impersonator and Captain's impersonator.

Compare these two:
http://imageshack.us/f/689/2012062400009.png/ (http://imageshack.us/f/689/2012062400009.png/)
http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/542930855873320829/14CDEEBE6E1513C441186E76ACF879B23534C7C6/ (http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/542930855873320829/14CDEEBE6E1513C441186E76ACF879B23534C7C6/)
Title: Re: Eion Kilant 739 Ban/kick evasion after some revenge F.B. with a side of target
Post by: [TTPN] ShadowMoon on July 04, 2012, 07:38:47 AM
Mind rape..
I don't know who should I trust now..
Title: Re: Eion Kilant 739 Ban/kick evasion after some revenge F.B. with a side of target
Post by: Eion Kilant 739 on July 04, 2012, 07:42:41 AM
Mind rape..
I don't know who should I trust now..

From what I can tell, Shockah might have made a mistake. In the above post and in the OP you can tell that he thought I was impersonating Captain David. When really the same guy was impersonating both of us. All you have to do to tell is read the proof. (Unless I've made a major error, which I hope I did not.)
Title: Re: Eion Kilant 739 Ban/kick evasion after some revenge F.B. with a side of target
Post by: Prox on July 04, 2012, 10:29:05 AM
From what I can tell, Shockah might have made a mistake. In the above post and in the OP you can tell that he thought I was impersonating Captain David. When really the same guy was impersonating both of us. All you have to do to tell is read the proof. (Unless I've made a major error, which I hope I did not.)
From what I can tell he wanted to tell us that you were impersonating Captain David with your ALT account.
 
   But I think that it could be possible that the other account wasn't Eion's alt so what if we perma ban the impersonator and ban Eion for revenge rdm/prop push/whatever the fuck else he have done. If the impersonator wasn't his alt or gives a tiniest fuck about the servers, he might come to appeal his ban which I believe would be shortened.
 
Title: /thread
Post by: Eion Kilant 739 on July 04, 2012, 10:59:00 AM
From what I can tell he wanted to tell us that you were impersonating Captain David with your ALT account.
 
   But I think that it could be possible that the other account wasn't Eion's alt so what if we perma ban the impersonator and ban Eion for revenge rdm/prop push/whatever the fuck else he have done. If the impersonator wasn't his alt or gives a tiniest fuck about the servers, he might come to appeal his ban which I believe would be shortened.



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Pre-round prop kill is frowned upon, but not kickable unless committed multiple times.

I rarely kill people with props, aside from the occasional AFK and a few instances on whitehouse. I have, several times, tried to move around props to so something or other (Can't remember exact context). Each time I do that though I am simply pushing props with a prop. I know the prop I'm pushing can hurt players so I tell them to get out of the way and pause before continuing.
(Also, that screenshot is of me trolling with a barrel. I put it down after the round began and had no intention to push them off.)
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Target RDM, revenge RDM or mass RDM (4+ RDM's in one round) is NOT ALLOWED!

I also admit to revenge RDMing Shockah a single time.


That is what I am guilty of, I've been looking at the rules and I have not broken another one.
Title: Re: Eion Kilant 739 Ban/kick evasion after some revenge F.B. with a side of target
Post by: Shockah on July 04, 2012, 04:07:30 PM
From what I can tell he wanted to tell us that you were impersonating Captain David with your ALT account.
 
   But I think that it could be possible that the other account wasn't Eion's alt so what if we perma ban the impersonator and ban Eion for revenge rdm/prop push/whatever the fuck else he have done. If the impersonator wasn't his alt or gives a tiniest fuck about the servers, he might come to appeal his ban which I believe would be shortened.

As far as the evidence between their connection what I have is a very strong circumstantial case. This "impersonator" if he is as you say came into the game directly after you left MULTIPLE TIMES and proceeded to target ME and ONLY ME, if you check the status from before your first ban he was not in the game at the time meaning he had no way of knowing I was the one responsible for a kick or that you even had a kick. Please for the love of god don't suggest that "THERE MUST HAVE BEEN A SPY IN THE SERVER LETTING HIM KNOW' because your theory is already getting ridiculous enough. Why would anyone waste that much time and effort to get someone banned from game servers, unless you killed someone in their family and they're out to destroy ALL YOUR FUN :idk:?
Title: Re: Eion Kilant 739 Ban/kick evasion after some revenge F.B. with a side of target
Post by: Prox on July 04, 2012, 04:12:23 PM
As far as the evidence between their connection what I have is a very strong circumstantial case. This "impersonator" if he is as you say came into the game directly after you left MULTIPLE TIMES and proceeded to target ME and ONLY ME, if you check the status from before your first ban he was not in the game at the time meaning he had no way of knowing I was the one responsible for a kick or that you even had a kick. Please for the love of god don't suggest that "THERE MUST HAVE BEEN A SPY IN THE SERVER LETTING HIM KNOW' because your theory is already getting ridiculous enough. Why would anyone waste that much time and effort to get someone banned from game servers, unless you killed someone in their family and they're out to destroy ALL YOUR FUN :idk:?
Are you saying all of this to me or to Eion?
Title: Re: Eion Kilant 739 Ban/kick evasion after some revenge F.B. with a side of target
Post by: Shockah on July 04, 2012, 04:15:26 PM
Are you saying all of this to me or to Eion?

Eh the first sentence started off addressing you, everything after that is pretty much Eion sorry for the confusion XP
Title: Re: Eion Kilant 739 Ban/kick evasion after some revenge F.B. with a side of target
Post by: Samo on July 04, 2012, 05:47:07 PM
For reference:
The impostor: STEAM_0:1:34932198   http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198030130125 (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198030130125)
Eion Kilant 739: STEAM_0:0:25990455   http://steamcommunity.com/id/76561198012246638/ (http://steamcommunity.com/id/76561198012246638/)
Title: Re: Eion Kilant 739 Ban/kick evasion after some revenge F.B. with a side of target
Post by: Fenix on July 05, 2012, 12:36:32 AM
From the times that Shockah supplied that the "imposter" entered after Eion, i'd have to say that Eion was the imposter, but there's not SOLID proof. It's pretty coincidental if that's not Eion, but I'm almost 100% sure it is. We can still get him for what he admitted to at the very least.

P.S. Eion, would you mind making your account public? I want to investigate something (if you're not the imposter I hope you will gladly accept)
Title: Re: Eion Kilant 739 Ban/kick evasion after some revenge F.B. with a side of target
Post by: [TTPN] ShadowMoon on July 05, 2012, 02:29:31 AM
P.S. Eion, would you mind making your account public? I want to investigate something (if you're not the imposter I hope you will gladly accept)

^that
Title: Re: Eion Kilant 739 Ban/kick evasion after some revenge F.B. with a side of target
Post by: Eion Kilant 739 on July 05, 2012, 07:10:16 AM
From the times that Shockah supplied that the "imposter" entered after Eion, i'd have to say that Eion was the imposter, but there's not SOLID proof. It's pretty coincidental if that's not Eion, but I'm almost 100% sure it is. We can still get him for what he admitted to at the very least.

P.S. Eion, would you mind making your account public? I want to investigate something (if you're not the imposter I hope you will gladly accept)
^that

I'll do that ASAP, but that is not soon. If not tomorrow then the day after that. It's currently set so that friends of friends can view it if it's any help.

I will be reverting it back in a day or two afterwards though, so check it on the weekend.


ALSO: If this person joined right after I left, how soon? Signing into another steam profile would require me to either sign out, sign back in, and start Gmod back up or there is a spy. Keep in mind that this person could have waited until my name dissapeared from the infobox (refresh spam) you can pull up for every server.

Actualy it's likely that the impersnoator was in there with you guys and simply left, changed his name, and rejoined.
Title: Re: Eion Kilant 739 Ban/kick evasion after some revenge F.B. with a side of target
Post by: Pilot on July 05, 2012, 11:32:10 AM
Quote
ALSO: If this person joined right after I left, how soon? Signing into another steam profile would require me to either sign out, sign back in, and start Gmod back up or there is a spy.

The time "they" joined afterward was about the amount of time it would take to sign out, sign in, start up Garry's Mod and rejoin.

The profile picture used by the "imposter" was pretty unique; I probably would have noticed it while you were in-game. The "imposter" was definitely not playing until you were kicked.
Title: Re: Eion Kilant 739 Ban/kick evasion after some revenge F.B. with a side of target
Post by: Eion Kilant 739 on July 05, 2012, 12:15:35 PM
The time "they" joined afterward was about the amount of time it would take to sign out, sign in, start up Garry's Mod and rejoin.

The profile picture used by the "imposter" was pretty unique; I probably would have noticed it while you were in-game. The "imposter" was definitely not playing until you were kicked.

It's still possible. You can have a Steam browser open in your game ('Shift+Tab' by default). All they would have to do is set up the name change and the image change before hand and presto! A new identity.

EDIT: Actually I'm not so sure about that. If they had to browse for the image it might not be possible... I can't recall if steam uses a URL to obtain a picture either, if it does it's definitely possible.
Title: Re: Eion Kilant 739 Ban/kick evasion after some revenge F.B. with a side of target
Post by: Pilgrim on July 05, 2012, 12:45:46 PM
Ok, even you have to admit your story has gotten quite unbeleiveable now.
Title: Re: Eion Kilant 739 Ban/kick evasion after some revenge F.B. with a side of target
Post by: Eion Kilant 739 on July 05, 2012, 01:18:39 PM
Ok, even you have to admit your story has gotten quite unbeleiveable now.

Lol, I've been thinking almost the same thing.

This almost reminds me of playing as an Innocent in TTT. I'm just listing all the possible things this impersonator could have done. If there was any evidence proving (which there can't be) I had any relation to this impersonator I'd have treated this all much diffrently.

Can't we just ban the impersonator? OP has enough evidence... or should I make a seperate thread? I haven't made a ban request before so I wouldn't know.
Title: Re: Eion Kilant 739 Ban/kick evasion after some revenge F.B. with a side of target
Post by: semy32 on July 05, 2012, 02:21:13 PM
Who cares if it is an impersonator or not?

Both of you have done shit.
Title: Re: Eion Kilant 739 Ban/kick evasion after some revenge F.B. with a side of target
Post by: Pilot on July 05, 2012, 03:28:26 PM
Can't we just ban the imperonator? OP has enough evidence... or should I make a seperate thread? I haven't made a ban request before so I wouldn't know.

I still don't understand why someone would go so far as to wait until you left, "impersonate" you, and then coincidentally leave right before your "main" account rejoined.

I have a feeling, Eion, that you're just trying to wriggle your way out of this.
Title: Re: Eion Kilant 739 Ban/kick evasion after some revenge F.B. with a side of target
Post by: Shockah on July 05, 2012, 04:14:20 PM
I still don't understand why someone would go so far as to wait until you left, "impersonate" you, and then coincidentally leave right before your "main" account rejoined.

I have a feeling, Eion, that you're just trying to wriggle your way out of this.

That's exactly what he's trying to do, shift the blame. Eion it WAS you, there's enough circumstantial evidence in my mind or I wouldn't have made this report in the first place. Your explanation simply isn't practical whatsoever this isn't an action spy movie it's a game server that you got mad on and decided to troll to no avail.
Title: Re: Eion Kilant 739 Ban/kick evasion after some revenge F.B. with a side of target
Post by: Eion Kilant 739 on July 05, 2012, 05:54:37 PM
I still don't understand why someone would go so far as to wait until you left, "impersonate" you, and then coincidentally leave right before your "main" account rejoined.

I have a feeling, Eion, that you're just trying to wriggle your way out of this.

That didn't happen. This is the order of events from my perspective:

I target RDM.
I act afk to avoid being kicked outright.
I get kicked.
I go play something else for about and hour if not more. 

Oh and BTW, I was kicked sometime after the map changed (after ttt_clue came some CS:S map, possibly de_inferno) and didn't come back for quite some time. I either played Half-Life (goldrc) or a MineCraft server I frequent. Infact I never even logged out of steam!

Honestly I don't understand either, if it wasn't for Shockah's proof I'd have thought it never would have happened.

Anyway, I'mma post a ban request on this imposter within 30 minutes if nothing comes up. Just need to put all Shockah's proof in one place and read the rest of the stikied posts.

EDIT: Made that other ban request on the imposter.
Title: What is this?!
Post by: Eion Kilant 739 on July 05, 2012, 06:43:05 PM
Description of the event(s)
It started when I killed Eion for reasons he didn't see fit. I had killed him for being with a T of which he had dna on and not killing him on top of generally acting like a T and following me when I told him specifically several times to go away. He then proceeded to rage about how unfair of a kill it was and the next round he spent asking everyone of my whereabouts literally the entire round. I had died in the very start of the match and been thrown down a hole by a T. The next round he found me in the start of the round walked up to me and proceeded to snipe me in the head then proclaiming that, "His job here was done". After kicking him the map switched. Right after it switched he returned on his alt account evading the minuscule 10 minute kick. He then proceeded to find me and try and unload on me with his terribly low karma that his alt possesses. After yet another kick, the kick on his other account had expired and he returned on it. He then returned under his new alias of which he was imitating another player on at the time Captain David I believe. Evading yet again the kick that took place on that account. After a swift random 60minute kick from one of the other VIP's present at the time Foofoojack I've yet to see him return.

You LIAR! I can't fucking believe I didn't notice something missing from your post.

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After kicking him the map switched. Right after it switched he returned on his alt account evading the minuscule 10 minute kick. He then proceeded to find me and try and unload on me with his terribly low karma that his alt possesses. After yet another kick, the kick on his other account had expired and he returned on it. He then returned under his new alias of which he was imitating another player on at the time Captain David I believe.

Absolutely FALSE.

You did not kick me on clue, you kicked me THE FIRST ROUND on the CS:S map. (I also did not rejoin for quite some time!) Your own very proof disagrees with me coming back as Captain David. http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/542930855873320829/14CDEEBE6E1513C441186E76ACF879B23534C7C6/ (http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/542930855873320829/14CDEEBE6E1513C441186E76ACF879B23534C7C6/)

Yes I did just notice this.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Eion Kilant 739 Ban/kick evasion after some revenge F.B. with a side of target
Post by: Minic on July 05, 2012, 07:32:04 PM
I have done a partial review of the logs for the day in question with the two SteamID's provided. Both of the connections originated from different IP addresses, in separate states, on different ISP's. There is an extremely high probability these are indeed two different people.

No way of telling if they know each other or not though.

I personally am still undecided on the issue, this thread got confusing pretty fast... It seems it may of just been a total coincidence.

On the other hand they may know each other and be working together (seems less likely).

Any other thoughts?



Edit: After additional thought, it seems they may not be working together... Why would he report his friend. Unless hes trying to clear his own name?
(see http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,13210.0.html (http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,13210.0.html) )

This is all starting to seem more and more like a coincidence, unless more information arises I'll treat it as such. Only offense would be a single RDM, not a huge issue...
Title: Re: Eion Kilant 739 Ban/kick evasion after some revenge F.B. with a side of target
Post by: Pilot on July 05, 2012, 07:37:37 PM
Minic got to it before me. I actually now believe that Eion and the imposter are two different people.

I checked out the imposter's profile and looked at some of his aliases. I've seen his aliases playing on the TTT server recently; all of them were RDMing, calling out T buds, and being general mingebags.

Eion is probably not guilty of evading, but there's no doubt that he needs to be punished for:

This is the order of events from my perspective:

I target RDM.
I act afk to avoid being kicked outright.

Apologies for the accusations of evasion; however, you did admit to breaking the rules and should accept whatever punishment the admins decide to hand down.
Title: Oh good, a resolution to this.
Post by: Eion Kilant 739 on July 05, 2012, 07:53:42 PM
Minic got to it before me. I actually now believe that Eion and the imposter are two different people.

I checked out the imposter's profile and looked at some of his aliases. I've seen his aliases playing on the TTT server recently; all of them were RDMing, calling out T buds, and being general mingebags.

Eion is probably not guilty of evading, but there's no doubt that he needs to be punished for:

Apologies for the accusations of evasion; however, you did admit to breaking the rules and should accept whatever punishment the admins decide to hand down.


I think the quote you want is this:
Quote from: Eion Kilant 739
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Pre-round prop kill is frowned upon, but not kickable unless committed multiple times.

I rarely kill people with props, aside from the occasional AFK and a few instances on whitehouse. I have, several times, tried to move around props to so something or other (Can't remember exact context). Each time I do that though I am simply pushing props with a prop. I know the prop I'm pushing can hurt players so I tell them to get out of the way and pause before continuing.
(Also, that screenshot is of me trolling with a barrel. I put it down after the round began and had no intention to push them off.)
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Target RDM, revenge RDM or mass RDM (4+ RDM's in one round) is NOT ALLOWED!

I also admit to revenge RDMing Shockah a single time.


That is what I am guilty of, I've been looking at the rules and I have not broken another one.


I also noticed I'm a little vauge on the first part about props. That part about killing AFKs and something on whitehouse was pre-round, not during round.


Oh and Shockah: That ban request I made on the impersonator went through. You shouldn't be seeing him around any time soon.
No hard feelings?
Title: Re: Eion Kilant 739 Ban/kick evasion after some revenge F.B. with a side of target
Post by: Pilot on July 05, 2012, 07:57:53 PM
Regardless of whatever post I quote, you'll get what's coming. Shockah still has some legitimate evidence on you, the actual Eion.
Title: Re: Eion Kilant 739 Ban/kick evasion after some revenge F.B. with a side of target
Post by: Shockah on July 05, 2012, 10:19:10 PM
Alrighty first and foremost, I owe you an apology as it seems the impostor was just that and he happened to pretend to be the wrong person at the wrong time. That being said you did intentionally try to avoid questioning and a kick as well as revenge rdming. This along with prior behavior and minge issues still concerns me.

After re-looking over the evidence you were correct about who joined when and whatnot, a simple mistake on my part I didn't realize captain had the steam id of the impostor and not you. I had to sift through about 15 different images taken by myself and others so it got a bit confusing.
Title: Re: Eion Kilant 739 Ban/kick evasion after some revenge F.B. with a side of target
Post by: Loke on July 19, 2012, 02:07:54 PM
My apologies too.
Title: Re: Eion Kilant 739 Ban/kick evasion after some revenge F.B. with a side of target
Post by: Samo on July 19, 2012, 10:34:02 PM
My apologies too.
Well, that that bump was nice, and so was mine.
Lock?
Title: Re: Eion Kilant 739 Ban/kick evasion after some revenge F.B. with a side of target
Post by: Eion Kilant 739 on July 19, 2012, 11:24:17 PM
Well, that that bump was nice, and so was mine.
Lock?


Yes. I've been expecting these bumps for some time now. I also think that these threads are not locked because I'm going to receive a ban "when the sourcebans start working". Just a theory anyway. Hope I don't, but it's up to the admin's take on all this in the end.
Title: Re: Eion Kilant 739 Ban/kick evasion after some revenge F.B. with a side of target
Post by: Sabb on August 16, 2012, 01:15:42 PM
Based on everything in this thread I think that it was a misunderstanding and that the other user isn't an alt but just an inconvenient minge. So, that account will be permanently banned either way. If he actually cares about the servers and wants to stop fucking with people and impersonating them (which I doubt) then he can appeal and I'll deal with that then. For you Eion, you need to cooperate with VIPs. I'm quite sure I've told you to stop prop pushing before and had a hard time getting you to cooperate. Prop pushing is more or less simply not acceptable in any situation. That includes pre-round, so please stop. You'll be banned but only for 3 days when I'm able to do that.