Snivy, stop caring about peoples' caring. Clearly you don't like reading what people are saying about stuff like this, so just ignore it. Posting stuff like "stop caring" every time you see a thread like this isn't going to change anything.
It's more annoying when people start complaining just because someone said one bad thing about them.Thing is it's not criticism people are complaining about... it's people letting go and being outright dicks to every breathing member because there will be no punishments.
Something like the AB is easy to ignore, and just not give a fuck about.
It's hard to do that when people can't handle the criticism that goes on in there, and have to constantly whine and complain about it though.
So that's why I said "stop caring". Because the people complaining are worse than the people making the posts in the actual board.
Look at Frank. I remember a few threads centered around him, and he's even AGAINST it's removal.
If you dig paste the hateful comments people throw in, the core of what they're trying to say is always right. How you use that information is up to you.
Look at Frank. I remember a few threads centered around him, and he's even AGAINST it's removal.I just said I don't want it fully removed too, even though if you go in there 3/4 of all threads have some insult about me in some way. And I don't even go on the anonyboards either, unless someone points something out to me, where I'm pretty sure Franks a somewhat frequent user of the board...
User as in viewer. I barely post. If I post, it's usually a reverse post or a copy/paste. Sometimes I do post serious things. And closing anon is like saying "I don't want to be mugged, so forbid everyone from walking on the streets".That's why I said user rather than poster.
That's like if people were posting extremely racist content of some sort, supporting the killing of everyone but X race, and then people complaining about it here, but your argument being "If you don't like it, don't go on the board". Clearly, if people were posting content like that, something would be done.
seeing as it may be a bit more extreme than what's currently going on, but it's the same situation where a lot of users are offended and annoyed but no one's really breaking any severe rules such as posting links to viruses and such; or illegal content that could threaten shutting down the site.
And I think that's a good example as well
That's why I said user rather than poster.Then that'd be shitting on the entire face of freedom. If people wanted to post things and be controlled, they'd just come here. Hurr.
Also, I agree with that last statement, because I don't want anon closed. I would be fine with it but I won't support closing it either. But rather, what I want is for it to actually have faint rules to keep people from outright bashing each other, which by your analogy would be "I don't want people to be mugged, so monitor the streets and add gun laws".
> Give an example...
> Claim it's a good example
> Proceed to explain why it's a horrible example
Then that'd be shitting on the entire face of freedom. If people wanted to post things and be controlled, they'd just come here. Hurr.No, people will still post things there as it's still anonymous, they just wouldn't be allowed to brutally insult each other.
I don't give a flying f*** about them. But they do help. Just leave it alone.
Pretty much this.You say that like I'm suggesting slightly changing the board because of my personal feelings/bias. I don't care how stupid or juvenile you think I am, if you knew me even the slightest, I'm actually extremely nice and simply want for everyone to be treated fairly. A lot of people complain about what's said on the anonyboards. I'm doing this so no one has to complain any more. If you'd look for a second, I don't believe I have ever made even one thread or significant post of me complaining about how people refer to me on the anonyboards. I really can't care much about that. I hear stupid shit all the time.
Nobody is going to jump out and murder you in the anon boards.
Nobody is talking about forming a new KKK and plotting a mass genocide.
Someone just called you out for "x reason" and now you have to go and cry about it.
You say that like I'm suggesting slightly changing the board because of my personal feelings/bias. I don't care how stupid or juvenile you think I am, if you knew me even the slightest, I'm actually extremely nice and simply want for everyone to be treated fairly. A lot of people complain about what's said on the anonyboards. I'm doing this so no one has to complain any more. If you'd look for a second, I don't believe I have ever made even one thread or significant post of me complaining about how people refer to me on the anonyboards. I really can't care much about that. I hear stupid shit all the time.
Also, I didn't say PLOTTING anything in my example... that would be something that could potentially shut down the site. I simply said extreme racism. You really need to start paying attention more to what I'm specifically saying...
Again, you jump to conclusions and assume I was talking about you.I do understand... and yes, I assumed that was somewhat directed at me (not fully I know...) as, well, this whole damn thread has been pretty much. And I said potentially shut down. coolz had mentioned stuff previously about some of that with what kind of content they allow him to have on the website. I'm not saying the FBI's going to break down coolz' door for plotting mass genocide...
I was talking about the people complaining about what's said and want it shut down.
Also, that wouldn't even get the site shut down. I hope you realize how the internet works.
Anyways, you're giving me a headache so I'm going to go take a nap or something.
If every second thread complains about you/insults you, shouldn't that tell you something?Nope, because the only real complaints/insults are from Snivy.
Can't you just stop with your arguments, they aren't going to change a thing. Remember, this is a suggestion, and suggestions rarely pass. We might as well lock the thread. And maybe you two can argue on the Anonyboards :)If there isn't a long drawn out argument about things like this, then there will CONSTANTLY be smaller arguments about it in other threads even more-off topic. That's basically how it is here, so I don't really plan on stopping until something happens or it gets to the point that Snivy will actually leave the discussion to PM's.
Nope, because the only real complaints/insults are from Snivy.So you complain about Jman dismissing all arguments against him, then proceed to do the exact same thing?
And obviously you support him. This isn't new.
So you complain about Jman dismissing all arguments against him, then proceed to do the exact same thing?In what sort of a way have I dismissed any arguments by you?
Good job.
In what sort of a way have I dismissed any arguments by you?
I simply said that the only people really complaining about me is Snivy... and now you...
Anyone else posting is just disagreeing with what I suggested.
So, if it makes you happy, that tells me that you and Snivy simply have some bias against me, and express that in probably the worst manor, as usual. In the situation I've done not a single thing wrong, aside from possibly ranting on too much about stuff not directly related to the topic.
and express that in probably the worst manor,
I never even said you dismissed arguments by me, nor have I ever agreed or disagreed with anything Snivy said. And you mentioned yourself that 3/4 of the threads in the anonyboard complain about you.You can see why I thought you were talking about this thread not the anonyboards...
But yeah, good jumping to conclusions that aren't even backed up by anything I said.
And obviously, if people are complaining about you, you haven't "not done a single thing wrong", otherwise they wouldn't have to complain in the first place.
And this is why we can't have serious threads.This sure looks like a serious thread to me. Just semi-off topic.
You can see why I thought you were talking about this thread not the anonyboards...Lol okay.
And I haven't said I've never done a single wrong, I'm saying that in this situation I haven't, not that no one should have anything to complain about with me. Half the shit isn't even from my actions however, people such as you, Snivy, and Gamefreak as far as I know, simply don't like me and love to complain about me and how I talk. I can't really care any less.
EDIT:This sure looks like a serious thread to me. Just semi-off topic.
Lol okay.I'm not dismissing all arguments by saying "don't like me doesn't matter don't care"...
This isn't worth my time, I'd rather talk with my nail clipper. At least that one can actually grasp the human language and doesn't dismiss any and all things against him as "you don't like me you don't matter I don't care xD".
I'm not dismissing all arguments by saying "don't like me doesn't matter don't care"...
I'm saying that you two are simply acting like that seemingly because you just don't like me, as I haven't truly done anything wrong in this situation... I'm not ignoring all arguments and points by everyone saying "lol you just don't like me argument invalid". I've clearly backed up every single point in this thread against me, yet you two (mainly Snivy) simply like to continue posting the same arguments, no matter how many times I explain something.
I'm not dismissing all arguments by saying "don't like me doesn't matter don't care"...
people such as you, Snivy, and Gamefreak as far as I know, simply don't like me and love to complain about me and how I talk. I can't really care any less.
LOLJust like Snivy, read the portions you want, dismiss the rest. Not defending myself on that again...
do you actually believe what you're saying?
You just contradicted yourself AGAIN right then and there.
But okay, I get it that everyone complaining about you is invalid and only does it because they hate you, lol.
Just like Snivy, read the portions you want, dismiss the rest. Not defending myself on that again...Lol okay.
Half the shit isn't even from my actions however, people such as you, Snivy, and Gamefreak as far as I know, simply don't like me and love to complain about me and how I talk. I can't really care any less.
Lol okay.No, I believe you and Snivy are complaining about me right now making a big issue over I don't even know what because you've got some bias on me. I'm not saying that's what every person who makes a complaint about my does. For example there was a few thing son the anonyboards I read that I do realize I do, which people can complain for idc... but every single argument in this thread from you two has just been extremely stupid to try and shut me down.
Yeah, how could I forget these words which totally change the sentence:
Still the exact same message - you believe people only complain about you because they dislike you, not for any other reason.
No, I believe you and Snivy are complaining about me right now making a big issue over I don't even know what because you've got some bias on me. I'm not saying that's what every person who makes a complaint about my does. For example there was a few thing son the anonyboards I read that I do realize I do, which people can complain for idc... but every single argument in this thread from you two has just been extremely stupid to try and shut me down....
No, I believe you and Snivy are complaining about me right now making a big issue over I don't even know what because you've got some bias on me. I'm not saying that's what every person who makes a complaint about my does. For example there was a few thing son the anonyboards I read that I do realize I do, which people can complain for idc... but every single argument in this thread from you two has just been extremely stupid to try and shut me down.
...All arguments summed up:
Sigh.
I'm not going to bother anymore.
This is worse than talking to a wall.
EDIT:
gamefreak, are you referring to me not giving an example of how Don and Snivy are simply refusing to acknowledge what I say, or for me acknowledging other peoples' arguments on the anonyboards (probably from you) which I can admit that I've done wrong?
I stopped posting on the AB a month or two ago, so I'm not sure what you're referring to. What I'm referring to is that, unless I've missed something, almost all of your arguments have been assertions. I'm not saying they're either right or wrong, but I am saying they're unsupported.They're kind of supported by the entire thread and my quoting but okay...
Thing is it's not criticism people are complaining about... it's people letting go and being outright dicks to every breathing member because there will be no punishments.
Also...I just said I don't want it fully removed too, even though if you go in there 3/4 of all threads have some insult about me in some way. And I don't even go on the anonyboards either, unless someone points something out to me, where I'm pretty sure Franks a somewhat frequent user of the board...
See thing is, the board is just centred around hating other members currently, and whether you care or not, a lot of people do and it's CONSTANTLY complained about for in what my opinion is good reason... So, a lot of people are upset about what all of the people are doing on the anony boards and a lot offended. So just leave it there, because they can simply not look at it if they don't want to see it?
That's like if people were posting extremely racist content of some sort, supporting the killing of everyone but X race, and then people complaining about it here, but your argument being "If you don't like it, don't go on the board". Clearly, if people were posting content like that, something would be done. And I think that's a good example as well, as I know you're going to argue that... seeing as it may be a bit more extreme than what's currently going on, but it's the same situation where a lot of users are offended and annoyed but no one's really breaking any severe rules such as posting links to viruses and such; or illegal content that could threaten shutting down the site.
EDIT:
Tiger, I would actually prefer anything like that to be on these forums because then conflicts could actually get solved, where if it's on the anonyboard people drop back to preschool and fling insults at each other just to piss everyone off. Here, people are more inclined to have an actual discussion.
> Give an example
> Claim it's a good example
> Proceed to explain why it's a horrible example
You can see why I thought you were talking about this thread not the anonyboards...
And I haven't said I've never done a single wrong, I'm saying that in this situation I haven't, not that no one should have anything to complain about with me. Half the shit isn't even from my actions however, people such as you, Snivy, and Gamefreak as far as I know, simply don't like me and love to complain about me and how I talk. I can't really care any less.
EDIT:This sure looks like a serious thread to me. Just semi-off topic.
Not to mention, I did try to bring the discussion to PM's, but it clearly got brought back up into this thread and several others.
Lol okay.And then of course just the post above where Don said that I'm again not worth his time, not explaining anything, only trying to insult me and ignore what I say, which is now edited with Don quoting me and not explaining why he thinks I'm an idiot yet again, though obviously for thinking what I said is obviously wrong, which it isn't. Happens in every single argument.
This isn't worth my time, I'd rather talk with my nail clipper. At least that one can actually grasp the human language and doesn't dismiss any and all things against him as "you don't like me you don't matter I don't care xD".
They're kind of supported by the entire thread and my quoting but okay...
Here Snivy completely ignores my wall ox text and points out that I used a bad example, in his opinion, rather than arguing my actual points:
Here, Don completely ignores what I'm trying to explain and jumps to the usual conclusion that I'm simply dismissing arguments by saying people don't like me and it doesn't matter:And then of course just the post above where Don said that I'm again not worth his time, not explaining anything, only trying to insult me and ignore what I say, which is now edited with Don quoting me and not explaining why he thinks I'm an idiot yet again, though obviously for thinking what I said is obviously wrong, which it isn't. Happens in every single argument.
And last, the stuff I'm actually talking about from AB which I can admit to having done wrong is mostly fairly old now I suppose, so I don't doubt you posted at least some of it and I don't really care if you did. I don't really find anything wrong with some of the things posted about me at all.Spoiler (click to show/hide)
...okay, this is pointless.As far as I'm concerned everything I said has completely supported my arguments...
You'd have to be an idiot to think shutting down our venting system is a good idea.People can learn to vent on there own or in a less juvenile and offensive
People can learn to vent on there own or in a less juvenile and offensivemanormanner.
Seb I disagree. The problem is the maturity level of those bitching, and almost more so those being bitched about. Most of the shit I saw on AB before tomcat made 10 pages of spam were very generalized observations about people, like they'd never taken the time to talk to the person about their problem.
Yes, I am calling most of you immature.
Yes, I am saying most of you need to learn to communicate to your "friends" more effectively. Or stop pretending they don't piss you off, and deal with it in an appropriate fashion.
No matter how something is said, there is somebody on both sides who will get immensely culo-cremated at even the slightest criticism. Would you rather what's said and done on the AB be here or there?
Any venting here results in a shitstorm. Passive, aggressive, passive-aggressive or not, nobody will respect a name who bears an unpopular opinion.No... people don't need to fucking bash others to vent. People need to learn how to keep shit to themselves and deal with it, or solve shit in a way that doesn't involve trying to bash people with insults.
No... people don't need to fucking bash others to vent. People need to learn how to keep shit to themselves and deal with it, or solve shit in a way that doesn't involve trying to bash people with insults.Yeah, because closing your eyes to problems is much better than fixing them.
Yes, I am calling most of you immature.The reason why the majority of people are unwilling to bring things up to someone personally is because everyone takes things as personal as humanly possible. You insult my usage of powers? Holy shit why do you hate me so much? What did I do to you?
Yes, I am saying most of you need to learn to communicate to your "friends" more effectively. Or stop pretending they don't piss you off, and deal with it in an appropriate fashion.
Yeah, because closing your eyes to problems is much better than fixing them.No, I didn't say ignore problems... I said deal with them. It's like everyone here can't just deal with little problems and needs to make a large deal of it, insult people, and anonymously... like, really? Either realize these tiny issues are NOTHING or solve them by talking to the person. Not "venting" by throwing insults on an anonymous board.
Often times arguments don't start with insults, but people resort to them once they feel like the other side either isn't capable of or doesn't want to understand what someone's saying.
The reason why the majority of people are unwilling to bring things up to someone personally is because everyone takes things as personal as humanly possible. You insult my usage of powers? Holy shit why do you hate me so much? What did I do to you?
And at the end, all you have is a ruined relation between two people because it'll just end in "only you think so anyway".
While on the anonyboard, people agree with what is said, and maybe, just maybe, the message gets through to the person it's directed at - although sadly not too often.
Yeah, because closing your eyes to problems is much better than fixing them.>pokerface
Often times arguments don't start with insults, but people resort to them once they feel like the other side either isn't capable of or doesn't want to understand what someone's saying.
The reason why the majority of people are unwilling to bring things up to someone personally is because everyone takes things as personal as humanly possible. You insult my usage of powers? Holy shit why do you hate me so much? What did I do to you?
And at the end, all you have is a ruined relation between two people because it'll just end in "only you think so anyway".
While on the anonyboard, people agree with what is said, and maybe, just maybe, the message gets through to the person it's directed at - although sadly not too often.
Anonyboard has reached a new pinnacle.Oh boy. OH BOY.
It managed to turn a thread poking fun of Sabb's pizza obsession into a flame war.
Oh boy. OH BOY.
I hate to actually give a fuck butI'll be 100% honest and say I don't really know who posted that lol. But anyways... complete anonymous douche-ism at its finest.Spoiler (click to show/hide)
either way, I don't care if it goes down, but I do agree you guys can be really hurtful sometimes to people who don't even do anything to you.
I'll be 100% honest and say I don't really know who posted that lol. But anyways... complete anonymous douche-ism at its finest.I honestly don't see how it's being douchey at all. I can see how it's bad criticism, but not doucheism. It's not like the post verbally insulted her or anything. It's just bad criticism.
I honestly don't see how it's being douchey at all. I can see how it's bad criticism, but not doucheism. It's not like the post verbally insulted her or anything. It's just bad criticism.It's just worded completely like a dick...
I honestly don't see how it's being douchey at all. I can see how it's bad criticism, but not doucheism. It's not like the post verbally insulted her or anything. It's just bad criticism.Well even if it was, calling my work unoriginal just because of the whole comic incident was uncalled for, and not to mention calling it mediocre. At most, I'd say I'm at least decent but honestly, I don't think I'm a horrible artist. What he/she said was rude. :l
It's just worded completely like a dick...and this.
Like, I wouldn't care if it said simply "Purple's known for her drawings but I think Marie's drawings a better imo." or something like that, then it wouldn't be so bad...
Why are people so afraid of criticism? Even if it is rude, do you think people will stop having those opinions when the board disappears? No, they will just say shit behind your back like they do already.
Plus, if you actually take some time, its quite fun to spar there. Even if is juvenile.
Why are people so afraid of criticism? Even if it is rude, do you think people will stop having those opinions when the board disappears? No, they will just say shit behind your back like they do already.It's not about being afraid of criticism... it's just that there's a certain way to talk to people... properly... and it's not like that.
Plus, if you actually take some time, its quite fun to spar there. Even if is juvenile.
It's not about being afraid of criticism... it's just that there's a certain way to talk to people... properly... and it's not like that.
It's not about being afraid of criticism... it's just that there's a certain way to talk to people... properly... and it's not like that.This, I'm not afraid of it, and I love criticism on my work, but they could have put it in a nicer way
I've never been, nor even know of a method to getting to the anony boards and don't care to know. Things shouldn't be said behind backs and they definitely shouldn't be put in a rude manner on the anony boards. You shouldn't use the board as a way of being a douche without repercussion. As a means of identifying an issue IN A NICE WAY it seems fine to me or a better purpose to talk about your opinions without fear of prejudice and judgement. What was said about purples work regardless of opinion was a tad bit unnecessary. That's an issue that has already been visited here and if you've got something to say there's a topic for an argument about it HERE. If you're gonna be a douche about it why don't you do it here, so then we can criticize you for your poor people skills an inability to accept a fact that has already been laid out. They really don't need to be shut down though. I'll probably never enter that active flame war of anonymous posts, people just need to learn that if you've got a problem with someone you can make that clear to them without being a total asshole all the while hiding behind the fact that your post is anonymous.The problem with that is that people want to be douches on purpose. They probably don't even mean what they say most of the time, but they get a kick out of our reaction. That's the only thing about anony board. Other than that, it's a great idea.
Why are people so afraid of criticism? Even if it is rude, do you think people will stop having those opinions when the board disappears? No, they will just say shit behind your back like they do already.
Plus, if you actually take some time, its quite fun to spar there. Even if is juvenile.
I've never been, nor even know of a method to getting to the anony boards and don't care to know. Things shouldn't be said behind backs and they definitely shouldn't be put in a rude manner on the anony boards. You shouldn't use the board as a way of being a douche without repercussion. As a means of identifying an issue IN A NICE WAY it seems fine to me or a better purpose to talk about your opinions without fear of prejudice and judgement. What was said about purples work regardless of opinion was a tad bit unnecessary. That's an issue that has already been visited here and if you've got something to say there's a topic for an argument about it HERE. If you're gonna be a douche about it why don't you do it here, so then we can criticize you for your poor people skills an inability to accept a fact that has already been laid out. They really don't need to be shut down though. I'll probably never enter that active flame war of anonymous posts, people just need to learn that if you've got a problem with someone you can make that clear to them without being a total asshole all the while hiding behind the fact that your post is anonymous.http://ab.randomgs.com/ (http://ab.randomgs.com/)
http://ab.randomgs.com/ (http://ab.randomgs.com/)
Just in case you want to know what everyone's talking talking about fully and shit.
Spent about a whole 5 minutes looking around, lost all faith in humanity. I don't feel the need to explain why, if you can't figure it out for yourself I'll sum it up with this statement, "The immaturity present in some members of this community is larger then that which is present in my 7 year old autistic cousin".>Go to an anonymous board frequented by less than 40 people
Holy shit. I just had a look over the whole Anonyboards. And the amount of braindeads on it is really something... All they do is hate on the people with higher statuses than them. It's really grim to see the people older than me being simply this stupid. I've realised that keeping/removing these boards should be decided by the people who get shit from them. Well, carry on.>status
>statusYeah... it does sound so, but hear me out :)
That's so snob.
Maybe admins should be able to ban people that post things that are beyond retarded.This is what I'm saying. I see the be the only admin who actually really wants it so monitoring it would mostly be up to me I guess... but what I've been saying is that a lot of the stuff posted (mostly previously, but still some currently) is purely attacking members. If such things were posted here, they would EASILY get a warning or ban. But on there it's a free run, I don't think it should be. With that said though, I wouldn't ban/remove posts or what ever unless the post is directly attacking and insulting someone in an unnecessary way. Like, I think a lot of people are afraid of the boards being monitored because they want to express their opinions without being known... which I disagree with doing but if they want to they would still be able to. And if we were given powers on anonyboards I don't think any other admins would really be removing posts often either unless really necessary. Jman would probably be the only one who would also be removing stuff occasionally.
This is what I'm saying. I see the be the only admin who actually really wants it so monitoring it would mostly be up to me I guess... but what I've been saying is that a lot of the stuff posted (mostly previously, but still some currently) is purely attacking members. If such things were posted here, they would EASILY get a warning or ban. But on there it's a free run, I don't think it should be. With that said though, I wouldn't ban/remove posts or what ever unless the post is directly attacking and insulting someone in an unnecessary way. Like, I think a lot of people are afraid of the boards being monitored because they want to express their opinions without being known... which I disagree with doing but if they want to they would still be able to. And if we were given powers on anonyboards I don't think any other admins would really be removing posts often either unless really necessary. Jman would probably be the only one who would also be removing stuff occasionally.
Also: IF there were to be something added so that admins could monitor ab a little bit... I think it should be something like this:
1. Can only ban up to 1 month.
2. Can only ban a user after they've had 3 posts removed.
3. Obviously, able to remove posts.
Not sure if we'd be able to do the whole only being able to ban a user after 3 posts have been removed, but if possible that'd probably be best imo.
My idea is:I actually think this would probably be better. But... I think coolz mentioned before that he can't implement tripcodes for some reason... I can't remember why... and I may be wrong but I think i recall him saying that.
1. Ban the user
2. The comment stays, but with [USER HAS BEEN BANNED FOR THIS POST(INSERT REASON HERE)] at the bottom.
3. The thread gets less shitposted.
If an admin makes a questionable ban, there is a page for the latest bans and by who. Users won't have a specific id, but would be IP banned, but somehow would be kept secret from the admin that banned him to keep the person anonymous.
If the person switches IPs just to shitpost again, they need to rethink their life.
Also, I think tripcodes should be available incase someone wants to make a post without people wondering who posted it.
I don't know how hard it would be to do this, but I think it would make anon board a better place if implemented. Hell, I'd volunteer monitoring it if no other admin wants to do it.
Also, I think tripcodes should be available incase someone wants to make a post without people wondering who posted it.
I suggested this months ago, and nobody gave a fuck enough to implement it.I recall that... but also:
I actually think this would probably be better. But... I think coolz mentioned before that he can't implement tripcodes for some reason... I can't remember why... and I may be wrong but I think i recall him saying that.
Haha, no. Anony should stay anony.
I'm beginning to question your reading ability.He doesn't mean "anonymous should stay anonymous", he means "the anonyboards shoudl stay the anonyboards".
We're suggesting that we add the OPTION to have a tripcode. Opción, optie, オプション, opcja, opção, opzione, 选项. You can be as anonymous as you want. We want to stop FORCING people to be anon.
I'm beginning to question your reading ability.Force anon is cool. Something like in-thread IDs would be better.
We're suggesting that we add the OPTION to have a tripcode. Opción, optie, オプション, opcja, opção, opzione, 选项. You can be as anonymous as you want. We want to stop FORCING people to be anon.
Force anon is cool. Something like in-thread IDs would be better.
...that's exactly what we're suggestingNo...
Here's a suggestion, if it has not been already posted, why not just reset the anonyboard? and reset it every month.How would that fix anything?
Here's a suggestion, if it has not been already posted, why not just reset the anonyboard? and reset it every month.Haha, no. Extensive discussions could no longer be had.
Haha, no. Extensive discussions could no longer be had.
Also, what about a bumping system?
tl;dr: Non-beneficial especially with community so volatile just causes shit storms, nothing productive whatsoever about it if there is give me an example PLEASE.
I just want them gone. All it is, literally all it is, fucking flame threads. It's idiots and assholes criticizing each other. Whether it's because they're either too uncertain of their own beliefs or prefer to hide behind the fact that they're anonymous and display the most barbaric sense of rude in it's pure form, it's stupid. It isn't what we need right now or ever for that matter. I think most of us wouldn't deny the community is at a very volatile place right now. The admins are in a pissing contest with each other, everyone's generally unhappy at admin/vip activity the state of ZS isn't the best, we're on temp servers and feel unsettled, many of our servers aren't available and to top it all off it's the internet so 30% of it's users just like to stir shit. If anyone can give me a LEGITIMATE reason why it helps our community grow and is productive I might reconsider my opinion but I just don't see it benefiting the overall well-being of the community in any way.
But Coolz just recently did things to it? What a waste it would be to take it down nao.
But Coolz just recently did things to it? What a waste it would be to take it down nao.
tl;dr: Non-beneficial especially with community so volatile just causes shit storms, nothing productive whatsoever about it if there is give me an example PLEASE.
I just want them gone. All it is, literally all it is, fucking flame threads. It's idiots and assholes criticizing each other. Whether it's because they're either too uncertain of their own beliefs or prefer to hide behind the fact that they're anonymous and display the most barbaric sense of rude in it's pure form, it's stupid. It isn't what we need right now or ever for that matter. I think most of us wouldn't deny the community is at a very volatile place right now. The admins are in a pissing contest with each other, everyone's generally unhappy at admin/vip activity the state of ZS isn't the best, we're on temp servers and feel unsettled, many of our servers aren't available and to top it all off it's the internet so 30% of it's users just like to stir shit. If anyone can give me a LEGITIMATE reason why it helps our community grow and is productive I might reconsider my opinion but I just don't see it benefiting the overall well-being of the community in any way.
Wow, so you'd much rather have everyone keep their mouths shut, and keep a nice and beautiful mask on, and live a fake happiness, than see the truth? You really can't be that naïve.
What you're saying is that, by shutting down the Anonyboards, all the hate will go away.
You deser all of my wut.
All of it.
All.
We either need some form of administration there to keep people from shitslinging, or remove it entirely.Even if we have administration on there people will still continue without concern of reputation and probably continue their spam and trolling.
I think coolz might know who posted what through IPs?
And if he doesn't, adding that might be cool. At least some sort of hidden IP, but that IP having an ID only viewable for the administration team of the anonyboard.
But the problem is that maybe a part of the administration are the ones shitslinging ._.How exactly do we do that if we don't know which admins and people are the ones shitslinging or not? (If they are at least)
Should only be accesible to Coolz and maybe people who don't actually throw fits on there.
Not saying this offensively towards anyone.
How exactly do we do that if we don't know which admins are the ones shitslinging or not? (If they are at least)
How exactly do we do that if we don't know which admins and people are the ones shitslinging or not? (If they are at least)...due to the ID-IP system? derp
no one is arguing that the hate will go away.The main issue is that people can't take the criticism without holding grudges and will automatically attack someone with a different opinion like he/she would have done something terrible.
we're trying to say that under the veil of anonymity nothing gets done.
nothing is resolved; problems and issues are deepened because there is no one to fix them.
Its easy to complain about something but if you're looking to actually solve that problem, you have to stand up and say "I don't like _____ because __________".
Otherwise you look like this.
http://ab.randomgs.com/index.php?topic=1063 (http://ab.randomgs.com/index.php?topic=1063)
And that's just a bucket of stupid.
The main issue is that people can't take the criticism without holding grudges and will automatically attack someone with a different opinion like he/she would have done something terrible.Dude no.
Dude no.I'm not talking about threads in ab, it's just how people act in general once they're compromised in a very serious discussion that involves one members criticizing others or specific things.
2% of stuff on the anonyboards is actually constructive criticism. The rest is people desperately trying to find actions of a user to complain about because they've got a ridiculous personal bias against them. That and people "criticising" by outright insulting others. It's not people not being able to take criticism.
I'm not talking about threads in ab, it's just how people act in general once they're compromised in a very serious discussion that involves one members criticizing others or specific things.I really don't see that happen much though.
I really don't see that happen much though.It's just my attitude after 2 years of being in this community, it might be wrong, but there sure are some of well known people that can act this way.
I don't think getting rid of it will do anything but take it away from the eyes of others, people will still say these things, and for me, I would much rather know then be talked about behind my back; at least then I can take into consideration the things they are saying, rude or not.
tl;dr All ab is, is flame threads. That being said how/why would someone change based on the comments/ramblings of what is clearly an ignorant fool with the maturity level of a small child. Still maintain previous opinion nothing good, literally nothing comes from AB and it's not something we need or should even want especially at this time.I'm going to stop you right there, shit on ab does not start without a reason for it. While people use ab to hate others for being different it isn't that uncommon that legitimate discussion starts there and people are actually acting freely but seriously.
tl;dr All ab is, is flame threads. That being said how/why would someone change based on the comments/ramblings of what is clearly an ignorant fool with the maturity level of a small child. Still maintain previous opinion nothing good, literally nothing comes from AB and it's not something we need or should even want especially at this time.
How is it not being talked about behind your back if they're completely anonymous? All ab is, is overly rude comments 8/10 threads are flame 1/10 is spam and the other 1/10 is miscellaneous. If people aren't capable of taking criticisms than so be it, you aren't suppose to show that mich of a lack of disrespect towards ANYONE. It's not people representing their opinions I'm opposed against it's the way they do so, "Jman is a whiney cunt" for example. Why does it have to be presented this way? Would it be presented this way if they were saying it on forums, in game, or over steam chat? I know for a fact it would not, if you have something to say to someone you should let them know because ab is simply an outlet for those too belligerent to work through their issues with anyone. I see something on AB and my mind automatically switches to "He's just an idiot being a douche and trying to stir shit" so following your theory, if Sabb goes on to AB sees a thread about himself opens it up and it says something along the lines of "OMG SAB WHY U SO FCKING STooPID U PRICK U SUCK BIG DECKS U NID 2 STOP KISSSING SO MYCH DECK" he's going to take into consideration and analyze it seriously? He's going to see hey maybe I do "KISSS SO MYCH DECK", because I doubt anyone would be so willing to change themselves based on the post of someone he probably knows, with the reading and writing comprehension skills, maturity level, and general intellect of an eight year old all whilst hiding behind the protective cloak that is AB.
What's the best way to solve problems?
*drums*
Hiding them!
You seem to be once again missing the point.
An example:
You don't like how I do something.
You post in the AB about how much of a cunt I am.
I see thread.
Nothing happens.
Versus
You don't like how I do something.
You talk to me about it.
We go from there.
You seem to know not what really goes on:
You seem to be once again missing the point.
An example:
You don't like how I do something.
You post in the AB about how much of a cunt I am.
I see thread.
Nothing happens.
Versus
You don't like how I do something.
You talk to me about it.
We go from there.
You seem to know not what really goes on:
You have a problem with Moo
You go and tell X about how much of a cunt he is
You never actually tell Moo your problem because you're afraid of being socially owned
vs
You have a problem with Moo
You go and post the matter on the ab
You and other people whose identity you are not aware of, and who also aren't aware of YOUR identity, discuss the matter at hand
Moo joins the discussion, without anyone knowing it
Peace
Of course, it's a utopia, but so is yours. The difference is that you want to take down a blackboard because people could draw penises on them, and I want it to stay because someone could make a beautiful drawing about a wolf.
You seem to know not what really goes on:
You have a problem with Moo
You go and tell X about how much of a cunt he is
You never actually tell Moo your problem because you're afraid of being socially owned
vs
You have a problem with Moo
You go and post the matter on the ab
You and other people whose identity you are not aware of, and who also aren't aware of YOUR identity, discuss the matter at hand
Moo joins the discussion, without anyone knowing it
Peace
Of course, it's a utopia, but so is yours. The difference is that you want to take down a blackboard because people could draw penises on them, and I want it to stay because someone could make a beautiful drawing about a wolf.
I'm not sure which anonymous board it is you're reading. I've never seen peace come from it. Its all about backstabbing, communally gang raping other members. I've always held true to the fact that if people judge you for your opinion, or for trying to join in discussions with valid concerns, then they are no friends, and I find no reason to treat them otherwise.Let's make the board go poof, because nobody's drawing wolves right now. Let's prevent them from ever doing it!
And I want that blackboard down because you said we'd use it for wolves, and now its just ALL penises.
Let's make the board go poof, because nobody's drawing wolves right now. Let's prevent them from ever doing it!
No, just make sure we know which ones are drawing wolves, and which are drawing dicks on everyone else's drawings.IP->ID
IP->ID
Or we could use the system we already have in place, the FORUMS, for a form of discussion.But they don't get to choose their IDs, nor can they be linked to the persons. Thus giving them the freedom of anonimity.
Because soon as a few people give out IDs, its just the same with a different number in place of a name.
But they don't get to choose their IDs, nor can they be linked to the persons. Thus giving them the freedom of anonimity.
But they don't get to choose their IDs, nor can they be linked to the persons. Thus giving them the freedom of anonimity.
Not to mention the problem that comes with basing it off of IP's.
If someone posts on their phone, at their friends house, from a wifi hotspot, whatever, they'll be a different ID.
If you can, why not just make it so you can literally log in with your normal forum account? Except when you post, it only shows your name, none of that other stuff. And that way, you can either log in if you want, or not if you don't.
Hhnnnnng guys, you don't read shit.
The ID can only be seen by those with anony administrative power. It's a mean of control, not of self-identification.
Or rather than going to great lengths discussing and implementing reformations and updates to make AB a safe place for discussion, wolf drawing, and the upmost disapproval of penis drawing we could, I don't know, USE THE DISCUSSION THREAD ON THE FORUMS.“Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.”
“Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.”
Oscar Wilde rejects your argument.
If you can, why not just make it so you can literally log in with your normal forum account? Except when you post, it only shows your name, none of that other stuff. And that way, you can either log in if you want, or not if you don't.
If you can, why not just make it so you can literally log in with your normal forum account? Except when you post, it only shows your name, none of that other stuff. And that way, you can either log in if you want, or not if you don't.I think your talking about the respect free discussion board which I think is basically what we where trying to make when we made the Anon board
Doesn't that just take the anonymous out of it?
I think your talking about the respect free discussion board which I think is basically what we where trying to make when we made the Anon boardNo... it's so that people can actually truthfully know when someone replies to something. Whether anyone likes it or not, the anonyboards are basically used to discuss how other members behave and w.e. If someone actually wants to defend themself or explain something, no one will actually know it's them 100% because too many people are pretending to post as others. Being able to log in to post eliminates that. The people who want to stay anonymous will stay anonymous, so no, it doesn't take the anonymity out of it and no, it's not even close to the same as respect free discussion. Just to clear things up or w.e with people actually knowing it's you posting.
Keep AB that's it
1. It's a great place to just relax or have a laugh esp about what others say about you.
2. It gives a neutral place to attack, troll, and bash each other.
3. The best way of improving it would be to allow posts to be hidden over being generally too offensive.
4. A limit to how much could be posted in a set amount of time by a user could help limit spam.
>personal experience
>actual events
>neither one supersedes oscar wilde
It's a great, true quote you dumpass.
I love oscar wilde, but you can't just invalidate someone's argument with a quote.But you can.