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Marked one kia abusing respected
« on: July 05, 2010, 01:17:01 PM »
I was playing on ttt today on the map lost temple so we slid down the slide and me and another player became stuck in each other. Another player who goes by "turd fergusin" killed the other player who was stuck in me and walked away without identifying the body so i preceded to kill him as I thought he was traitor, I almost killed him when Marked one kia came up to me and killed me, realizing that I was innocent he started a vote ban as seen here

I was trying to explain my side of the story to him but it was almost as if he muted me. Also arggg was there so he may be able to say something
« Last Edit: July 05, 2010, 01:19:20 PM by ledjohnny »
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Re: Marked one kia abusing respected
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2010, 01:23:10 PM »
all day you have RDM and propkill

reason is thare


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Re: Marked one kia abusing respected
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2010, 01:27:19 PM »
I have not! You haven't even been on so why dont you just gtfo?
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Re: Marked one kia abusing respected
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2010, 01:29:02 PM »
Here is how it is Marked_one.

I dont see him propkilling or RDMing here. I see YOU RDMING. THEN YOU VOTEBAN HIM

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU THINKING?

First thing first. Dont fight RDM with RDM. That is retarded. Second thing, RDM is not bannable, I've fucking told you that like fifty times. This voteban was obviously abuse, but I cannot prove that he was not propkilling previously as you claim. If he is propkilling fine voteban him, otherwise, get the fuck over it.
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Re: Marked one kia abusing respected
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2010, 01:40:50 PM »
as said many times before... mass rdm is bannable...

rdming 2+ people along witht eh detective before were able to put him down, is what i call mass rdm, every round, all day

also, i know this saying saying  much, but if its as unanimous as it was...
i hope i spelled that right
« Last Edit: July 05, 2010, 01:42:42 PM by Marked_One_KIA »
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Re: Marked one kia abusing respected
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2010, 01:41:31 PM »
All day? He hasn't been really online today ...
I know it since I pretty much played on TTT the entire day.
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Re: Marked one kia abusing respected
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2010, 01:43:34 PM »
by all dayi mean every time i see him, which is 3x so far today. sorry if i dont take that shit well sanders... but this guy is getting ridiculous.
im dissapointed... he was doing SO GOOD before... occasional rdm or mic spam... but now... :<
« Last Edit: July 05, 2010, 01:47:45 PM by Marked_One_KIA »
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Re: Marked one kia abusing respected
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2010, 02:00:46 PM »
From the console log i think that the round was just starded and there wasnt alot ppl
dead so he didint rdmed or propkilled thought so it could be somthing like this...
ledjonny started shooting marked one kia then he killed ledjonny and he was innocent,
Than he started the vote. But im not sure we need witnesses.
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Re: Marked one kia abusing respected
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2010, 02:06:23 PM »
If he propkills, ban him on the spot. Otherwise STFU.

Here are the rules just in case you forgot.

Quote from: Sanders on May 13, 2010, 09:19:24 AM
What is allowed and what is not allowed?

Trouble in Terrorist Town (or TTT as it will be known henceforth) has specific protections in place for different things. One key example is Karma. The purpose of Karma is to punish players who kill the wrong people. It serves both as a deterrent from killing people without reliable information, and rampaging people for fun (henceforth called RDM). Since TTT has a system in place to punish players who RDM, it should be allowed. However, if someone exploits a loophole in the system it will not be tolerated. This includes specifically targeting one or more players out of malice. Since the system cannot accurately detect killing in this manner, it is not allowed. Also, there are serious Karma losses for killing a detective. Therefore, RDM-ing as a detective is also not allowed.

Prop killing is far different than RDM. Karma does not track kills by props. Therefore there is no natural deterrent in game to prevent prop killing. You must only prop kill under one condition. The prop killed player is inactive for three or more minutes. Prop killing before round is also not allowed. Pre round is for getting weapons and finding camp spots. People that prop kill take this opportunity away from their victims.

Punishments for breaking rules

1. Malice RDM (aka target RDM, single RDM, MUST BE COMMITED MORE THAN ONCE) (VOTEBAN AT WORST)
2. Accidental Prop kill (VOTEKICK AT WORST)
3. Pre round prop kill (VOTEKICK AT WORST)
4. RDM-ing as a detective (VOTEBAN AT WORST)
5. In round prop kill (VOTEBAN AT WORST)

ONCE AGAIN, TO CLAIRIFY, NORMAL RANDOM DEATHMATCH IS ALLOWED. HOWEVER, PROP KILL IS NOT ALLOWED EXCEPT TO KILL AFKS (who have been idle more than three minutes).

REMINDER: DON'T BAN FOR RULES YOU MAKE UP.


Addendum:
6. Traitors must get first blood. Killing as an innocent before any body is found is bad.
7. Killing a detective as innocent, UNPROVOKED is votekickable.
« Last Edit: July 05, 2010, 02:10:18 PM by Sanders »
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Re: Marked one kia abusing respected
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2010, 02:08:03 PM »
Wait wat
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4. RDM-ing as a detective (VOTEBAN AT WORST)
So RDMing as Detective is not allowed? I see Detectives that RDM like shit every fucking day.
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Re: Marked one kia abusing respected
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2010, 02:13:19 PM »
Its not allowed, because there is huge karma penalties for killing a detective as innocent. Where a normal RDM you cannot know whether or not the person is innoncent, when the RDMer is a detective you are forced to kill them when you know full well that they are innocent.

Once again, RDM is not one or two kills, it means killing a third or more of the server approximately.

Let me add that in

While we are on the subject, if you have any suggestions for the rules go ahead and put them.
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Re: Marked one kia abusing respected
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2010, 03:00:26 PM »
7. Killing a detective as innocent, UNPROVOKED is votekickable.

oh look a broken rule
i killed led at start of round because he was attacking detective. i lost a good chunk of karma because of led =.=
when he attacked detective NEXT round also, along with me... well then i votebaned, because i KNOW he isnt gonna stop, as everyone else knows.
its not like i ban him as soon as he enters... i dont do that... though he is usualy banned by someone by end of round 1-2, or everyone is non-respected and screaming at him...
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Re: Marked one kia abusing respected
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2010, 03:08:10 PM »
You are not understanding what I'm saying. Things are not cumulative. If he propkills voteban him, if he is just killing a lot of people, you cant voteban him.

End of story. You cant say "oh he was doing this shit for 3 rounds, so the next round I votebanned him." That is bullshit.

Are you saying you banned him because you saw him kill the detective? Even if that is so you should've VOTEKICKed him, not VOTEBAN.

Sorry if I seem like I'm working against you here marked, its because we get a lot of complaints of respected abuse, and I see this as a prime example.

Keep in mind, this is not enough evidence to get us anywhere so I wont be doing anything no matter the result of the dispute.
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Re: Marked one kia abusing respected
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2010, 03:18:54 PM »
im just gonna say this
he rdm 3+ people every time i play with him, unless we kill him first
he rdm detective (or tried too) twice before this ban
he is a MINGE AMONG MINGES
most people want him perma'd
i ALWAYS give him chance before he is banned, in fact some people try to ban on sight, and i try to convince them not to...
i dont abuse respected... i wont say im best respected ever, but only other complaint ive had was ploof, and he DEFINITELY deserved...
i try not to voteban IF i even do use, i usualy give a shitton of warnings and only kick, but sorry, jonny, he pisses everyone off

thoguh cahnge to rules, imo. in tt, last round, rdm is allowed if everyone agrees. cause it happens anyways
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Re: Marked one kia abusing respected
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2010, 03:24:46 PM »
Actually I have one thing for the rules that I didn't see there.
Killing your fellow Traitors or telling everyone who the fellow Traitor is should be bannable. I recently had two cases of that. On one case, my Traitor buddy told everyone that I was Traitor at the start of the round, causing them to insta-kill me. On the other occasion, my fellow Traitor killed me at the start of the round.
I know that pretty much everyone kicks/bans for above reasons, but I would like to have it in the rules there.
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