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Other Shiz => Boneyard => Topic started by: ledjohnny on July 05, 2010, 01:17:01 PM
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I was playing on ttt today on the map lost temple so we slid down the slide and me and another player became stuck in each other. Another player who goes by "turd fergusin" killed the other player who was stuck in me and walked away without identifying the body so i preceded to kill him as I thought he was traitor, I almost killed him when Marked one kia came up to me and killed me, realizing that I was innocent he started a vote ban as seen here
(http://i48.tinypic.com/n2ide9.png)
I was trying to explain my side of the story to him but it was almost as if he muted me. Also arggg was there so he may be able to say something
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all day you have RDM and propkill
reason is thare
gtfo w/ love pl0x
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I have not! You haven't even been on so why dont you just gtfo?
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Here is how it is Marked_one.
I dont see him propkilling or RDMing here. I see YOU RDMING. THEN YOU VOTEBAN HIM
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU THINKING?
First thing first. Dont fight RDM with RDM. That is retarded. Second thing, RDM is not bannable, I've fucking told you that like fifty times. This voteban was obviously abuse, but I cannot prove that he was not propkilling previously as you claim. If he is propkilling fine voteban him, otherwise, get the fuck over it.
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as said many times before... mass rdm is bannable...
rdming 2+ people along witht eh detective before were able to put him down, is what i call mass rdm, every round, all day
also, i know this saying saying much, but if its as unanimous as it was...
i hope i spelled that right
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All day? He hasn't been really online today ...
I know it since I pretty much played on TTT the entire day.
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by all dayi mean every time i see him, which is 3x so far today. sorry if i dont take that shit well sanders... but this guy is getting ridiculous.
im dissapointed... he was doing SO GOOD before... occasional rdm or mic spam... but now... :<
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From the console log i think that the round was just starded and there wasnt alot ppl
dead so he didint rdmed or propkilled thought so it could be somthing like this...
ledjonny started shooting marked one kia then he killed ledjonny and he was innocent,
Than he started the vote. But im not sure we need witnesses.
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If he propkills, ban him on the spot. Otherwise STFU.
Here are the rules just in case you forgot.
What is allowed and what is not allowed?
Trouble in Terrorist Town (or TTT as it will be known henceforth) has specific protections in place for different things. One key example is Karma. The purpose of Karma is to punish players who kill the wrong people. It serves both as a deterrent from killing people without reliable information, and rampaging people for fun (henceforth called RDM). Since TTT has a system in place to punish players who RDM, it should be allowed. However, if someone exploits a loophole in the system it will not be tolerated. This includes specifically targeting one or more players out of malice. Since the system cannot accurately detect killing in this manner, it is not allowed. Also, there are serious Karma losses for killing a detective. Therefore, RDM-ing as a detective is also not allowed.
Prop killing is far different than RDM. Karma does not track kills by props. Therefore there is no natural deterrent in game to prevent prop killing. You must only prop kill under one condition. The prop killed player is inactive for three or more minutes. Prop killing before round is also not allowed. Pre round is for getting weapons and finding camp spots. People that prop kill take this opportunity away from their victims.
Punishments for breaking rules
1. Malice RDM (aka target RDM, single RDM, MUST BE COMMITED MORE THAN ONCE) (VOTEBAN AT WORST)
2. Accidental Prop kill (VOTEKICK AT WORST)
3. Pre round prop kill (VOTEKICK AT WORST)
4. RDM-ing as a detective (VOTEBAN AT WORST)
5. In round prop kill (VOTEBAN AT WORST)
ONCE AGAIN, TO CLAIRIFY, NORMAL RANDOM DEATHMATCH IS ALLOWED. HOWEVER, PROP KILL IS NOT ALLOWED EXCEPT TO KILL AFKS (who have been idle more than three minutes).
REMINDER: DON'T BAN FOR RULES YOU MAKE UP.
Addendum:
6. Traitors must get first blood. Killing as an innocent before any body is found is bad.
7. Killing a detective as innocent, UNPROVOKED is votekickable.
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Wait wat
4. RDM-ing as a detective (VOTEBAN AT WORST)
So RDMing as Detective is not allowed? I see Detectives that RDM like shit every fucking day.
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Its not allowed, because there is huge karma penalties for killing a detective as innocent. Where a normal RDM you cannot know whether or not the person is innoncent, when the RDMer is a detective you are forced to kill them when you know full well that they are innocent.
Once again, RDM is not one or two kills, it means killing a third or more of the server approximately.
Let me add that in
While we are on the subject, if you have any suggestions for the rules go ahead and put them.
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7. Killing a detective as innocent, UNPROVOKED is votekickable.
oh look a broken rule
i killed led at start of round because he was attacking detective. i lost a good chunk of karma because of led =.=
when he attacked detective NEXT round also, along with me... well then i votebaned, because i KNOW he isnt gonna stop, as everyone else knows.
its not like i ban him as soon as he enters... i dont do that... though he is usualy banned by someone by end of round 1-2, or everyone is non-respected and screaming at him...
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You are not understanding what I'm saying. Things are not cumulative. If he propkills voteban him, if he is just killing a lot of people, you cant voteban him.
End of story. You cant say "oh he was doing this shit for 3 rounds, so the next round I votebanned him." That is bullshit.
Are you saying you banned him because you saw him kill the detective? Even if that is so you should've VOTEKICKed him, not VOTEBAN.
Sorry if I seem like I'm working against you here marked, its because we get a lot of complaints of respected abuse, and I see this as a prime example.
Keep in mind, this is not enough evidence to get us anywhere so I wont be doing anything no matter the result of the dispute.
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im just gonna say this
he rdm 3+ people every time i play with him, unless we kill him first
he rdm detective (or tried too) twice before this ban
he is a MINGE AMONG MINGES
most people want him perma'd
i ALWAYS give him chance before he is banned, in fact some people try to ban on sight, and i try to convince them not to...
i dont abuse respected... i wont say im best respected ever, but only other complaint ive had was ploof, and he DEFINITELY deserved...
i try not to voteban IF i even do use, i usualy give a shitton of warnings and only kick, but sorry, jonny, he pisses everyone off
thoguh cahnge to rules, imo. in tt, last round, rdm is allowed if everyone agrees. cause it happens anyways
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Actually I have one thing for the rules that I didn't see there.
Killing your fellow Traitors or telling everyone who the fellow Traitor is should be bannable. I recently had two cases of that. On one case, my Traitor buddy told everyone that I was Traitor at the start of the round, causing them to insta-kill me. On the other occasion, my fellow Traitor killed me at the start of the round.
I know that pretty much everyone kicks/bans for above reasons, but I would like to have it in the rules there.
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Oh yea, forgot to add that, that is definately bannable.
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rdm'ing detective twice or traitor killing... or both im assuming. lol
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Actually I have one thing for the rules that I didn't see there.
Killing your fellow Traitors or telling everyone who the fellow Traitor is should be bannable. I recently had two cases of that. On one case, my Traitor buddy told everyone that I was Traitor at the start of the round, causing them to insta-kill me. On the other occasion, my fellow Traitor killed me at the start of the round.
I know that pretty much everyone kicks/bans for above reasons, but I would like to have it in the rules there.
i really only think this can be a rule to certain limits. If youre a traitor and dont want to be discovered, killing another and telling everybody is a pretty clearcut way to make everyone think youre innocent. But if you kill another traitor just you didnt want to be one and are trying to finish the round quickly that should deserve a ban.
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i really only think this can be a rule to certain limits. If youre a traitor and dont want to be discovered, killing another and telling everybody is a pretty clearcut way to make everyone think youre innocent. But if you kill another traitor just you didnt want to be one and are trying to finish the round quickly that should deserve a ban.
Killing another traitor and claiming to be innocent is bannable because it is the most douchebag thing you could do.
Not nice at all.
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Hey, I think we need to add a rule that you CAN'T linger just out of the reach of any 1 rule. (KICK)
For instance, if you kill 2 people for several rounds in a row, but taking note not to kill a third.
Attacking the detective down to 1 hp.
Attacking a fellow traitor down to 1 hp.
Attacking everyone you see down to 1 hp.
Falsely accusing people with no evidence so you can RDM them. (like gohan did, in case you can't get this one).
Attempting to prop kill. (you need to add that prop blocks are kick).
ALL OF THESE WITH WARNINGS, HOWEVER. Then kick.
Things like this, because I KNOW douches will do this if we draw a line where the rules are.
They'll sit there at the line sticking their tongues out at us.
THIS IS JUST MY OPINION!
This needs SANDERS approval.
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Hey, I think we need to add a rule that you CAN'T linger just out of the reach of any 1 rule. (KICK)
For instance, if you kill 2 people for several rounds in a row, but taking note not to kill a third.
Attacking the detective down to 1 hp.
Attacking a fellow traitor down to 1 hp.
Attacking everyone you see down to 1 hp.
Falsely accusing people with no evidence so you can RDM them. (like gohan did, in case you can't get this one).
Attempting to prop kill. (you need to add that prop blocks are kick).
ALL OF THESE WITH WARNINGS, HOWEVER. Then kick.
Things like this, because I KNOW douches will do this if we draw a line where the rules are.
They'll sit there at the line sticking their tongues out at us.
THIS IS JUST MY OPINION!
This needs SANDERS approval.
but if ur traitor u can yell out someone's name... to an extent... ;P
traitor's new weapon :D
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Yeah, you can do that. I do that all the time.
But yeah, can someone PLEASE give Sanders a link to this so we can get confirmation?
I'm goin to bed.
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FFS, I was there, you can see my chat in the message. It says I was on the list because it mentioned me for suiciding at round start. (I fell into the suicide cult pit :3)
Anyway, if my memory does not mistake me, johnny was behaving. I think KIA is just oblivious to his side of the story. I think this is deserving of a temporary demote but I can verify that johnny had mic spammed not too long before this so he couldn't explain on mic. Even I had him muted....
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FFS, I was there, you can see my chat in the message. It says I was on the list because it mentioned me for suiciding at round start. (I fell into the suicide cult pit :3)
Anyway, if my memory does not mistake me, johnny was behaving. I think KIA is just oblivious to his side of the story. I think this is deserving of a temporary demote but I can verify that johnny had mic spammed not too long before this so he couldn't explain on mic. Even I had him muted....
u wernt there :L
he started crowbaring the detective after killing 2 or 3 people... i didnt see the 3rd die, but he was right behind me so ima assume... i killed him before detective died.
now, ive played with him enough to figure out he is nothing but an rdm'er, and i give him a chance every time, i dont ban on sight... but im a lot less forgiving on him then anyone else, ill say that =.=
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My rules:
RDM'ing is allowed cause I do it and as I have said over 9000 times, IT'S THE REASON WE HAVE FUCKING KARMA!
Prop killing = insta-15 min ban if I catch anyone doing it
RDM'ing as detective I just RDM them/blow them up
ya thats basicly it
he dident kill the detective did he though
like i said before rdming is allowed and there really is no limit people just like to think theres a limit
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yes he did? i watched? were u even there?
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he started crowbaring the detective
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killed once, tried to kill again, although he failed
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im just gonna say this
he rdm 3+ people every time i play with him, unless we kill him first
he rdm detective (or tried too) twice before this ban
he is a MINGE AMONG MINGES
most people want him perma'd
i ALWAYS give him chance before he is banned, in fact some people try to ban on sight, and i try to convince them not to...
i dont abuse respected... i wont say im best respected ever, but only other complaint ive had was ploof, and he DEFINITELY deserved...
i try not to voteban IF i even do use, i usualy give a shitton of warnings and only kick, but sorry, jonny, he pisses everyone off
thoguh cahnge to rules, imo. in tt, last round, rdm is allowed if everyone agrees. cause it happens anyways
You have issues.
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I was playing on ttt today on the map lost temple so we slid down the slide and me and another player became stuck in each other. Another player who goes by "turd fergusin" killed the other player who was stuck in me and walked away without identifying the body so i preceded to kill him as I thought he was traitor, I almost killed him when Marked one kia came up to me and killed me, realizing that I was innocent he started a vote ban as seen here
(http://i48.tinypic.com/n2ide9.png)
I was trying to explain my side of the story to him but it was almost as if he muted me. Also arggg was there so he may be able to say something
Seriously, demote this dumbass!
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He wont get demoted unless someone gets some evidence, or moo demotes him again.
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I cant wait till the day.
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k why was this bumped :l
also, if you read previous posts, it was stated... many times... that he tried to RDM the detective serveral times :l
let that be the end of this thread