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Offline Cathedron

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cogzandpigotz - Abusing his VIP powers.
« on: November 01, 2011, 12:38:37 PM »
1. Player's SteamID
Can't find it.

2. Players Nickname
cogzandpigotz

3. Your in-game name
Sonerin

4. Server name (Wirebuild, Zombie Survival)
TTT.

5. Description of the event(s)
He kicked me because I was telling him how being a Jew is not related to your race. He kicked me for "being a dick." and he kicked me two times in a row in like 20 minutes.

6. Reason for ban
N/A. Demote him please.

7. Screenshots or demo(s) | Optional console log(s)
http://i.imgur.com/i3Qxs.jpg

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Re: cogzandpigotz - Abusing his VIP powers.
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2011, 12:49:33 PM »
1st kick:
You prop pushed a guy off the edge in Crummy cradle.
That is against the rules, even if he was AFK.

2nd kick:
You said Orel is pretty good "for a Jew".
Meaning you think lowly of Jews and you expressed it, which is racist.
Racism is not tolerated.

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Re: cogzandpigotz - Abusing his VIP powers.
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2011, 12:53:10 PM »
1st kick:
You prop pushed a guy off the edge in Crummy cradle.
That is against the rules, even if he was AFK.

2nd kick:
You said Orel is pretty good "for a Jew".
Meaning you think lowly of Jews and you expressed it, which is racist.
Racism is not tolerated.

1st kick: Prop killing who have been AFK for too long is allowed, AFAIK. Done it many times before, other people did it too.

2nd kick: Being a Jew is related to Judaism, and it's not a race. "Jews" is not a racial class. Orel was not offended by it, he told me himself and it's a joke I commonly use on him.

Also, calling someone a Jew is not an insult. I can call you an American, a Muslim, a Tengriist. If you are offended by these words, then you are a discriminator yourself. What's so bad about being one of them after all?
« Last Edit: November 01, 2011, 12:56:08 PM by Cathedron »

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Re: cogzandpigotz - Abusing his VIP powers.
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2011, 12:59:05 PM »
1st kick: Prop killing who have been AFK for too long is allowed, AFAIK. Done it many times before, other people did it too.

Prop killing is never allowed not if it is a hacker, afker, karma farmer its NEVER allowed.
If other ppl do it don't be like them...

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Re: cogzandpigotz - Abusing his VIP powers.
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2011, 01:01:02 PM »
Prop killing is never allowed not if it is a hacker, afker, karma farmer its NEVER allowed.
If other ppl do it don't be like them...

Point of the thread ------> 

Your direction <-------

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Re: cogzandpigotz - Abusing his VIP powers.
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2011, 01:02:40 PM »
Point of the thread ------> 

Your direction <-------
Common sense
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You
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The thing is, you worded your statement like you think lowly of Jews.
Also, you were being a dick in other ways too, not just racism.

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Re: cogzandpigotz - Abusing his VIP powers.
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2011, 01:03:53 PM »
Common sense
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You
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The thing is, you worded your statement like you think lowly of Jews.
Also, you were being a dick in other ways too, not just racism.

I explained you how I was not being racist yet you use your ignoring powers and keep calling me racist.

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Re: cogzandpigotz - Abusing his VIP powers.
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2011, 01:04:49 PM »
I also banned you for being a dick in other ways.

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Re: cogzandpigotz - Abusing his VIP powers.
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2011, 01:06:06 PM »
I also banned you for being a dick in other ways.

Doesn't change the fact that you kicked me for a false reason. And I haven't been a "dick in other ways."

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Re: cogzandpigotz - Abusing his VIP powers.
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2011, 01:06:59 PM »
1st kick: Prop killing who have been AFK for too long is allowed, AFAIK. Done it many times before, other people did it too.

2nd kick: Being a Jew is related to Judaism, and it's not a race. "Jews" is not a racial class. Orel was not offended by it, he told me himself and it's a joke I commonly use on him.

Also, calling someone a Jew is not an insult. I can call you an American, a Muslim, a Tengriist. If you are offended by these words, then you are a discriminator yourself. What's so bad about being one of them after all?

What you said was "He's doing pretty good for a jew"
Which is, whether you intended it or not, a racist remark. I asked you to stop, I explained several times, I think this video of your response will clear up everything.

Also, Orel is Israeli. Jewish is a religion. American is not. Your argument makes no sense, which I tried to explain to you in a calm and mediating demeanor. However, I got this as a response.


<insert video here after upload>


And, referring to your prop pushing of AFKs, that is not allowed. Regardless of what you've seen in the past. Those people were in the wrong too.
Besides, I am the one who asked cogs to remove you. He agreed with me and did it on his own reasons as well.
If anything, you should be filling this report on me.

To give all of you an idea of why sonerin was being a dick, I have decided to include this picture, FREE OF CHARGE.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

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Re: cogzandpigotz - Abusing his VIP powers.
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2011, 01:08:48 PM »
Cathedron, or Sonerin or whatever your name was, even though I wasn't there, you do act like a dick in forums and in game.
In fact, you've even done it in this thread.

And calling someone a Jew in an offensive manor is kickable.


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Re: cogzandpigotz - Abusing his VIP powers.
« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2011, 01:09:53 PM »

Also, Orel is Israeli. Jewish is a religion. American is not. Your argument makes no sense, which I tried to explain to you in a calm and mediating demeanor. However, I got this as a response.


Sherlock solves the mystery. That's why I can't be racist for calling him a Jew, or if I say that he's doing good for a Jew.


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Re: cogzandpigotz - Abusing his VIP powers.
« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2011, 01:10:22 PM »
Sherlock solves the mystery. That's why I can't be racist for calling him a Jew, or if I say that he's doing good for a Jew.



way to dig your own grave.

Cathedron, or Sonerin or whatever your name was, even though I wasn't there, you do act like a dick in forums and in game.
In fact, you've even done it in this thread.

And calling someone a Jew in an offensive manor is kickable.

and coming back and repeating it, becomes bannable.















Make no mistake here; I'm only here protecting cogs, who did nothing wrong, at my request. So if something wrong was done, talk to me about it.

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Re: cogzandpigotz - Abusing his VIP powers.
« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2011, 01:15:40 PM »
way to dig your own grave.

and coming back and repeating it, becomes bannable.















Make no mistake here; I'm only here protecting cogs, who did nothing wrong, at my request. So if something wrong was done, talk to me about it.

Speaking by your logic, being a Jew is an offense.

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Re: cogzandpigotz - Abusing his VIP powers.
« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2011, 01:18:19 PM »
Speaking by your logic, being a Jew is an offense.

No, by my logic: Discriminating against someone for being a religion, whether meant in a joking manner or not, becomes an offensive statement.

You were causing a disruption in the server, and you were removed because you did not stop. Instead, to further prove your point, you continued making comments which could be construed as offensive. Which we do not allow.
Hence your removal.