1st kick:
You prop pushed a guy off the edge in Crummy cradle.
That is against the rules, even if he was AFK.
2nd kick:
You said Orel is pretty good "for a Jew".
Meaning you think lowly of Jews and you expressed it, which is racist.
Racism is not tolerated.
1st kick: Prop killing who have been AFK for too long is allowed, AFAIK. Done it many times before, other people did it too.Prop killing is never allowed not if it is a hacker, afker, karma farmer its NEVER allowed.
Prop killing is never allowed not if it is a hacker, afker, karma farmer its NEVER allowed.
If other ppl do it don't be like them...
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The thing is, you worded your statement like you think lowly of Jews.
Also, you were being a dick in other ways too, not just racism.
I also banned you for being a dick in other ways.
1st kick: Prop killing who have been AFK for too long is allowed, AFAIK. Done it many times before, other people did it too.
2nd kick: Being a Jew is related to Judaism, and it's not a race. "Jews" is not a racial class. Orel was not offended by it, he told me himself and it's a joke I commonly use on him.
Also, calling someone a Jew is not an insult. I can call you an American, a Muslim, a Tengriist. If you are offended by these words, then you are a discriminator yourself. What's so bad about being one of them after all?
Also, Orel is Israeli. Jewish is a religion. American is not. Your argument makes no sense, which I tried to explain to you in a calm and mediating demeanor. However, I got this as a response.
Sherlock solves the mystery. That's why I can't be racist for calling him a Jew, or if I say that he's doing good for a Jew.
Cathedron, or Sonerin or whatever your name was, even though I wasn't there, you do act like a dick in forums and in game.
In fact, you've even done it in this thread.
And calling someone a Jew in an offensive manor is kickable.
way to dig your own grave.
and coming back and repeating it, becomes bannable.
Make no mistake here; I'm only here protecting cogs, who did nothing wrong, at my request. So if something wrong was done, talk to me about it.
Speaking by your logic, being a Jew is an offense.
No, by my logic: Discriminating against someone for being a religion, whether meant in a joking manner or not, becomes an offensive statement.
You were causing a disruption in the server, and you were removed because you did not stop. Instead, to further prove your point, you continued making comments which could be construed as offensive. Which we do not allow.
Hence your removal.
Discriminating people for their race, sure. I might offend people by that. But I didn't offend anyone, I didn't discriminate anyone. Simply calling Orel a Jew won't make me racist.
Orel is okay with me calling him a Jew. It's a joke between us, what's it to you?
Like I told you before; Other people may be offended by your jokes. Keep them between you and him, in steam, or wherever. But we do not want other players thinking we allow that sort of discrimination in the servers.
Then whoever is offended by it tells me, and I stop the Jew jokes. Easy as pie. You don't keep your hand on the keyboard to type out votekick.The thing is we DID!
Then whoever is offended by it tells me, and I stop the Jew jokes. Easy as pie. You don't keep your hand on the keyboard to type out votekick.
The thing is we DID!
And right now, you are doing it again on ther server.
You are not Jewish, why so? You are just saying it in order to make me look like I offended anyone, so I should be punished.
You could say it before kicking me, so I would stop.
You are not Jewish, why so? You are just saying it in order to make me look like I offended anyone, so I should be punished.Thats what you make from it...
You could say it before kicking me, so I would stop.
It doesn't matter if NO ONE is Jewish: if it can be construed as offensive, we will ask you to stop.
Which we did. You said "its not"
So you were kicked.
Nope, you never said you were offended and I should have stopped. You were not offended though, that's another issue.
I told you, stop calling him jewish. It doesn't matter what he is.
You did not.
I don't have to be the one offended. It CAN BE offensive to someone, who will most likely NOT speak up about it. Therefore, it becomes my job to ensure that you are not offending anyone. Whether or not they would tell you "Hey I'm offended by that."
Rule #1 on the servers is respect, and your comments were not.
"Hey Jew." is not an offensive word. If people are offended that they are going to be traumatized about it, they tell me and I stop. Orel was not offended, and he is okay with my jokes. No one else was offended too, so there's no problem.
It can be misunderstood as a racist term, which is why we told you to stop. Instead, you continued arguing, like you are now, causing a disturbance.
To prevent others from coming into the server, finding our ranking members ignoring what they believe is offensive, sends a bad message to them. It shows that we do not care. We want a nice, controlled gaming environment. No racism, no over-the-top shit-spewing, no RDM, etc.
Respect. For you, for me, for the admins, the vips, the regs, and yes, our guests.
They are our guests, and we will treat them as such. If you are causing a problem which we think can disturb our other guests, we will take disciplinary action against you. Which is what happened.
You do not get to pick which rules you will follow, and you do not have the power to not follow a rule until someone is offended. No one does.
The best thing is, I was not being racist. Calling someone a Jew is not being racist. You have to be too low to consider it as racsim.
You don't think you were.
But discriminating against someone based on race, religion, color of their hair, skin color, sound of their voice, gender, etc. IS offensive. You're right; racism might be the wrong word for it. But you were disrespectful, and as such, you were removed from the game.
Nope, calling Orel Jewish did not offend anyone. Why would it be offensive to call him a Jew?
I don't know about where you are, but where I live, that is discrimination. Discrimination=offensive. Also, going back to the video; You notice Orel saying he would rather be called Israeli than Jewish. If it were him, he would call the person "Israeli". So, you see, discrimination, whether you MEANT to do so or not.
Nah. Calling someone a Jew is not racist in any countries. Sarkozy is a Jew, Netanyahu is a Jew, Orel is a Jew. I'm not being racist now, I'm just stating the facts bro.Now you are just taking it out of context.
He just told me that it's okay if I call him Jewish.
Nah. Calling someone a Jew is not racist in any countries. Sarkozy is a Jew, Netanyahu is a Jew, Orel is a Jew. I'm not being racist now, I'm just stating the facts bro.
He just told me that it's okay if I call him Jewish.
Now you are just taking it out of context.
Nah. Calling someone a Jew is not racist in any countries. Sarkozy is a Jew, Netanyahu is a Jew, Orel is a Jew. I'm not being racist now, I'm just stating the facts bro.
He just told me that it's okay if I call him Jewish.
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Srs: Cathedron, you are a moron and cogs had every right to kick you
So, calling someone a Jew is not allowed yet you call me a moron and get away with it?> Moron
Cool arguement, would join again.