New weapons for TTT

[StartedBullet]

East German rage incoming! jk

[Deacon]

Damn... I'm REALLY tempted to get into a rant about the difference between clips and magazines. =/

Anyways.

FN P90
Armour penetration
High MAGAZINE capicity
Fast firing
Low damage
Low accuracy

Possible thing:
The plastic bullets leave DNA (The gun uses high density plastics, not lead and brass)

NO
NO
NO
AND NO

The P90 uses the 5.7x28 mm round. Since my dad has a Five-seveN (aka, the pistol in TTT which IS NOT A FUCKING 9mm), here's a picture of the round.



 The round was designed specifically for the gun, which was designed to replace the mp5 as a good CQB weapon for personnel not directly in combat (helicopter crews, for example). It was designed to penetrate kevlar armor, so that is accurate. It is also meant to kill. It would not just go through someone. It does have a high capacity magazine. Lets go over this again:

FN P90
Armour penetration (yes)
High MAGAZINE capicity (yes)
Fast firing (yes, in comparison to something like an m16)
Low damage (false)
Low accuracy (false)

[MrGodlike]

Lets include tha traita weapons too ya? I've played in other ttt servers. They had the jihad bomb and the suicide bomb

[Sabb]

Lets include tha traita weapons too ya? I've played in other ttt servers. They had the jihad bomb and the suicide bomb

yano

[Deacon]

I'm fucking telling you.

Detective weapon: Flashbang Grenade

Causes a bright white blinding flash to anyone in line-of-sight
Loud, debilitating noise.
Flashes anyone looking, not only traitors


One credit merits 2 grenades

[Сєşάя]

I suggest:

AK-47
AK-74u
M14
Glock (new type)

I forgot the other guns...

[TehHank]

I'm fucking telling you.

Detective weapon: Flashbang Grenade

Causes a bright white blinding flash to anyone in line-of-sight
Loud, debilitating noise.
Flashes anyone looking, not only traitors


One credit merits 2 grenades

i like this. Alot

[Сєşάя]

Some types of weapons:

Siminov's Firearms Source Swep Pack Preview
Firearms Source Weapons For Garrysmod

[Deacon]

i like the firearms source ones.
We should add the:
MP5
Pump Shotgun
FAMAS
Others can pick too.


I still think we should change the 9mm pistol to a beretta 92.

Make the current 9mm pistol (known as the Five-seveN) use its correct round. (5.7)
Add the P90, the P90 uses the same round as mentioned above (the 5.7)

No, I'm not letting that go.

[Alkaline]

I think we should use all of the css models before we start going into custom stuff.

Keeping download sizes low always promotes more new people to join.

MP5
Famas
Pump shotgun
etc

[Pilot]

This thread is full of good ideas; I completely support the addition of new weapons.

Like many have mentioned before, balance is key. I'm sure many of these ideas could be implemented without messing up the balance.

[Сєşάя]

Hey guys...
I tested the Fire arms Source pack, but is not the "awesome":

Realistic
Powerfull
Hard to manipulate
Its a entity (if this is important)
You can only select the gun when you have the ammo

[» Magic «]

Sorry guys, but as stated below Coolz doesn't have the time to add such new items, however this *may* change in the future, and all corosponding threads will be unlocked again for further discussion.

Have truly nice day, sorry for any inconvenience.
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11:49 PM - iMagic -=`rNd~:.: does my memory serve me bad, or did you say no items/weapons were to be added to ttt because of balancing issues or something? ;o
11:52 PM - .:~RND`=- coolzeldad -=: hm
11:52 PM - .:~RND`=- coolzeldad -=: yea
11:52 PM - .:~RND`=- coolzeldad -=: lotta things
11:52 PM - .:~RND`=- coolzeldad -=: just gamemode would have to be tweaked pretty severly
11:52 PM - .:~RND`=- coolzeldad -=: and would make every new commit harder to integrate

[coolzeldad]

Hmm Okay I was convinced and I'm considering submissions for general point and shoot weapons, such as a pistol, rifle, etc. that both classes will be able to access.

It will be more likely to have weapons integrated if they are balanced relative to the current ttt weapons and carefully considered.

An example of this: If you are considering a new rifle, check the damage, velocity, delay, recoil, ammo clip to that of another rifle like the m16.

You can aim for realism, but it must be relative to TTT. Ex: If you know a rifle's power, velocity, etc, compare it to a real m16, see the difference and then apply it to TTT's relative in-game value.

Traitor weapons however are more difficult to consider.

An example of what might work

Detective weapon: Flashbang Grenade

Causes a bright white blinding flash to anyone in line-of-sight
Loud, debilitating noise.
Flashes anyone looking, not only traitors


One credit merits 2 grenades

However, I did not see any other suggestions that I would even partially consider adding at this point.

As always, if you think I'm missing something you can try to convince me your weapon is suitable etc.

[Mr. Franklin]

Recently I talked with Coolzeldad and Deacon over TS3 about an idea to help balance TTT, while having new weapons. So the idea is, each month, the M249(SAW) will be switched out with a randomly suggested weapon that is accurate in description. Now it doesn't have to be the M249, it could be any other weapon currently in TTT.