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Re: SERIOUS DISCUSSION: Your thoughts on existence?
« Reply #30 on: March 08, 2011, 04:58:53 PM »
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I'm a Christian and I believe in creationism. Tell me, how do you get from burning hot plasma to humans? I know simple amino acids can be created in special conditions, but that doesn't explain how those amino acids formed protein chains and those formed into cell parts and so on. Aliens can exist but the chance of anything close to humans being in the universe is a 0.1% according to scientists.
if i know what is the worst religion, it would be scientology.
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Re: SERIOUS DISCUSSION: Your thoughts on existence?
« Reply #31 on: March 08, 2011, 05:24:55 PM »
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Oh my FUCKING gosh you fucking douchebags

I gave my thought on existence and all of you just HAVE to get all anal on my religion.

Fucktards, respect my belief, I'll respect yours.
Fucken assholes.

Dude, I'm with you..

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Re: SERIOUS DISCUSSION: Your thoughts on existence?
« Reply #32 on: March 08, 2011, 06:18:02 PM »
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I question my existence..

Why couldn't I be a fkin dinosaur?

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Re: SERIOUS DISCUSSION: Your thoughts on existence?
« Reply #33 on: March 08, 2011, 06:26:31 PM »
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I'm a Christian and I believe in creationism. Tell me, how do you get from burning hot plasma to humans? I know simple amino acids can be created in special conditions, but that doesn't explain how those amino acids formed protein chains and those formed into cell parts and so on. Aliens can exist but the chance of anything close to humans being in the universe is a 0.1% according to scientists. True.

Those aren't atheist theories, those are theories that APPEAL to atheism. Personally, I don't believe in evolution or the Big Bang or any of that nonsense.


Now can we PLEASE get on with this thread and stop fucking with Cheese?
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Re: SERIOUS DISCUSSION: Your thoughts on existence?
« Reply #34 on: March 08, 2011, 06:35:18 PM »
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Have you seen inception? That.

Being honest now existence is a really large subject. I mean are you talking the moment of creation, the meaning of existence, how we exist, do we exist, and so on? I noticed a lot of Christian shit. Firstly i'm not ready to bash anyone's beliefs... *puts bashing gloves on*. Ok now I am. Christianity is complete bullshit. I believe Jesus existed, but there are some major errors in Christian thinking. But thats not what this topic is about. PM me and I'll go more into it, I spent the past 3 years studying this stuff, among other things. I spend a lot of time researching random stuff....

Back to the topic

But my beliefs on existence, so far, are more a collections of random thoughts. I believe that ours is probably not the only universe, and that we are no different or more special, or even more random an occurance than any other thing out there. I also don't feel that analyzing existence is really possible as the number of variables is incomprehensible, even creationism, the simplest explanation, does not cover all bases. And the idea of existence vs the idea of non-existence in which we exist in an ethereal spirit form which is dreaming or controlling us like a puppet show is basically the same thing on different levels, so proving one does not disprove the others. Also you have the radical theories, such as where we access a living body in a different universe when we dream, and that our lives are a dream. I don't believe this however, for obvious reasons which you should be able to figure out that I don't feel like writing. Scientific theories, such as string theory, and even theories about creation, such as the big bang theory, deserve recognition in this discussion even though I don't adhere to them (except the big bang theory, but I have other thoughts on that as well that are off topic and this is long enough). Science, I believe, is incapable of grasping any kind of understanding of existence by its very nature. The theories out there are more explanations for atomic/ subatomic action and movement than an explanation of consciousness, which is more pertinent to our understanding of existence of ourselves. A little fun fact is there is a theory that you don't exist unless you think you exist, which is bullshit to say the least, as a rock does not think it exists but can still fall on your head and crush you in fun, exciting ways. By the way, if you read this far, good for you. Basically this whole thing was me saying I have no idea and neither does anyone else, but hats off to those who try.

I definitely have more to say on this subject but I got bored at this point so I'm just going to sign off here.  :trollface:

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Re: SERIOUS DISCUSSION: Your thoughts on existence?
« Reply #35 on: March 08, 2011, 06:37:49 PM »
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From my life experiences, I am not sure. Mabe im lucky? or it was the work of Jesus.
Hell, why not thank Jesus anyways.
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Re: SERIOUS DISCUSSION: Your thoughts on existence?
« Reply #36 on: March 08, 2011, 06:43:04 PM »
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Okay.

As a Jehovah's Witness, I'm forced to open my 10-pound briefcase filled with bibles and bible literature simply for this occasion. Please forgive me if I offend anyone.

As our 250-page book on the improbability of evolution states:

"Some proteins serve as structural materials and others as enzymes. The latter speed up needed chemical reactions in the cell. Without such help, the cell would die. Not just a few, but 2,000 proteins serving as enzymes are needed for the cell's activity. What are the chances of obtaining all of these at random? One chance in 1040,000. "An outrageously small probability," Hoyle asserts, "that could not be faced even if the whole universe consisted of organic soup." He adds: "If one is not prejudiced either by social beliefs or by a scientific training into the conviction that life originated [spontaneously] on Earth, this simple calculation wipes the idea entirely out of court."

Quoted is the literary work Evolution From Space, p. 24.

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Re: SERIOUS DISCUSSION: Your thoughts on existence?
« Reply #37 on: March 08, 2011, 06:46:14 PM »
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Okay.

As a Jehovah's Witness, I'm forced to open my 10-pound briefcase filled with bibles and bible literature simply for this occasion. Please forgive me if I offend anyone.

As our 250-page book on the improbability of evolution states:

"Some proteins serve as structural materials and others as enzymes. The latter speed up needed chemical reactions in the cell. Without such help, the cell would die. Not just a few, but 2,000 proteins serving as enzymes are needed for the cell's activity. What are the chances of obtaining all of these at random? One chance in 1040,000. "An outrageously small probability," Hoyle asserts, "that could not be faced even if the whole universe consisted of organic soup." He adds: "If one is not prejudiced either by social beliefs or by a scientific training into the conviction that life originated [spontaneously] on Earth, this simple calculation wipes the idea entirely out of court."

Quoted is the literary work Evolution From Space, p. 24.


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Re: SERIOUS DISCUSSION: Your thoughts on existence?
« Reply #38 on: March 08, 2011, 06:49:18 PM »
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whaaaaaaat

Jehova's Witness?

Yessir.

Don't even attempt an argument with me on evolution.

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Re: SERIOUS DISCUSSION: Your thoughts on existence?
« Reply #39 on: March 08, 2011, 06:54:02 PM »
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Yessir.

Don't even attempt an argument with me on evolution.

Of course not, fuck evolution.

But, by choice or...?
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Re: SERIOUS DISCUSSION: Your thoughts on existence?
« Reply #40 on: March 08, 2011, 06:57:22 PM »
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Of course not, fuck evolution.

But, by choice or...?

I was raised as one, but it's still my personal choice. We're the most rational and level-headed religion I've ever encountered.

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Re: SERIOUS DISCUSSION: Your thoughts on existence?
« Reply #41 on: March 08, 2011, 07:14:32 PM »
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I believe in Secular humanism.
Basically saying that i believe in science.
Go ahead and talk shit about me or whatever...
I just dont find that whole "god" thing realistic.
Sorry if i offended you.
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Re: SERIOUS DISCUSSION: Your thoughts on existence?
« Reply #42 on: March 08, 2011, 07:15:50 PM »
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I believe in Secular humanism.
Basically saying that i believe in science.
Go ahead and talk shit about me or whatever...
I just dont fine that whole "god" thing realistic.
Sorry if i offended you.

Finally someone that doesn't go "herpdaderp im gonna talk some shit about religion make people MAD! XD"

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Re: SERIOUS DISCUSSION: Your thoughts on existence?
« Reply #43 on: March 08, 2011, 07:25:44 PM »
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I try my best to NOT hurt others.
That's actually my #1 priority on this forum mostly.

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Re: SERIOUS DISCUSSION: Your thoughts on existence?
« Reply #44 on: March 08, 2011, 07:37:56 PM »
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As a kid, or preteen growing up, around 10-11 or so - I remember a really really realistic dream.
I was standing in a carnival-like place in the middle of a crowd - this really tall blurry guy next to me.
We were just standing there.
The crowd around us moving, walking, all with blurry faces.

I remember I was really happy cuz I'm in a fucking amusement park.

The guy next to me. The tall one - held me by the shoudlers and looked at me in the eye - Although he's a blur - but at the time of the dream it wasnt. and I knew who he was.

And he said to me - in a very serious tone: "This is real right now Mary. This isn't a dream. This is reality. This is happening for. real."

Everything else after that was a huge ass blur. But I remember it so well.
I kept believing that the tall guy was supposed to be God. Or Jesus. I thought he was telling me something subliminally.

But just last year around June. I went to the amusement park with a couple of friends. And my boyfriend.
We stood in the middle of the crowd while we were waiting for our friends to come out of the bathroom.

And my boyfriend turned to me exactly the way the tall guy did in my dream. and he asked me "What ride do you wanna ride first?"
My boyfriend is 6"2.

Then BAM.
I shat bricks.