[Trouble in Terrorist Town] Just a doubt.

[Nel]

Hi everybody.
I want to clear a doubt I (and lots of players) have about what it is commonly called RDM. My doubt is:

Let's suppose a player, called A is walking with his weapons holstered to a random location, then player B comes out from behind and shots player A, but A manages to defend himself and kills B.

My doubt is, Is what A did considered Rdm?
If not, who rdmed in that situation?

I think that B is the rdmer because he shot A out of nowhere, although B didnt managed to kill A.
Hope you understand what I say.

[Jman]

i agree with player b as being the rdmer. who IS in doubt besides you lol?

[Nel]

xD No i just asked help here because i want to clear all doubts about this, and avoid seeing fools who don't know the rules say that B is not the rdmer, so if more people agree that B is the rdmer i will be fine.
Still though, i would like to see what an admin says about this.

[Jman]

k lol 

[Bovicide]

In my opinion neither "RDMed" because player A killed B in self defence and player B failed to kill player A. Therefore Player A's actions were not random, and player B's actions did not lead to the death of player A.

In any case, the standard is 6 innocentA v innocentB,C,D,E,F,G kills before ban or kick is to be mentioned. Therefore, Player A would need to kill 5 more innocents to at least qualify, or player B would need to have killed 6 innocents before he was killed.

[Jman]

In my opinion neither "RDMed" because player A killed B in self defence and player B failed to kill player A. Therefore Player A's actions were not random, and player B's actions did not lead to the death of player A.

In any case, the standard is 6 innocentA v innocentB,C,D,E,F,G kills before ban or kick is to be mentioned. Therefore, Player A would need to kill 5 more innocents to at least qualify, or player B would need to have killed 6 innocents before he was killed.

i agree mostly except for the fact that Player B attacked Player A, but lost = fail rdm, but still an attempt which counts for something?

[Bovicide]

Well you cant yell at someone for RDMing you when they failed to kill you. You can rage because they went full retard and shot you, but that's on their karma.

Yes i know it affects your karma, but if you managed to pwn them when they surprise attacked you, I don't think you need to be worried about them.

[UberLord]

If they failed to kill you odds are they had low karma=not much karma lost.

[Waffle]

One thing that irks me on TTT is that even if you retard attacks you first and you kill them, you still lose 300-400 karma instead of like 400-500. It's REALLY irritating.

[Osme]

yea it should be changed, if he hits you, u lose no karma

if some fag join and immediately makes a really obvious rdm (u walk down hallway, shotgun to skull) ill kick for 2. 6 people seems a little much, and sanders, STOP CHANGING IT
4, 5, 4, 6, 4, 6
ur rules give me headache

[Jman]

6 people seems a little much, and sanders, STOP CHANGING IT
4, 5, 4, 6, 4, 6
ur rules give me headache

THIS X over 9000

[Nel]

In my opinion neither "RDMed" because player A killed B in self defence and player B failed to kill player A. Therefore Player A's actions were not random, and player B's actions did not lead to the death of player A.

In any case, the standard is 6 innocentA v innocentB,C,D,E,F,G kills before ban or kick is to be mentioned. Therefore, Player A would need to kill 5 more innocents to at least qualify, or player B would need to have killed 6 innocents before he was killed.

But I don't see any fairness in letting you, me or whoever the attacked is to be killed by a player who attacks you for no reason. Maybe he is having fun by doing it, but he is messing with other player's enjoyment of the game. Unless you consider it funny to kill somebody who attacks you and you think "He is T no doubt" and you go and check him, he is Innocent, and even more you lose more karma than him

Also I have another doubt: Are the Rdm kills accumulative? I think they should be because I have seen the following issue happening in game:

ROUND 1:
Player A rdms player B and player C, player B was Innocent and C was Traitor. Nothing happens to him because he rdmed 2 players only.

ROUND 2:
Player A rdms Player B and D, both Innocents. Nothing happens to him because he rdmed 2 players.

ROUND 3:
Player A rdms Player B and D, both T. Nothing happens to him

FINAL ROUND:
Player A rdms Players B,C,D,E,F and nothing happens to him because, as some say "Final round is rdm round"


So in short, some smart people do a lot of rdm in one certain map, but without surpassing the limit of 3 rdms per round.

[Jman]

So in short, some smart people do a lot of rdm in one certain map, but without surpassing the limit of 3 rdms per round.

may not be bannable, but it is a major dick move imo

[tomfoolery]

yea it should be changed, if he hits you, u lose no karma

if some fag join and immediately makes a really obvious rdm (u walk down hallway, shotgun to skull) ill kick for 2. 6 people seems a little much, and sanders, STOP CHANGING IT
4, 5, 4, 6, 4, 6
ur rules give me headache

You'll kick for 2?

uhhhh...

[Jman]

lol