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I hate how people are hating on Israel right now...
Tezuni:
--- Quote from: Nemisous on July 29, 2014, 04:00:35 PM ---The west is a bunch of hypocrites, If it was Russia doing the same thing, the US, and NATO would probably start preparing ground troops for a possible ground war in Ukraine. When Israel does it, "Israel has the right to defend itself". Its straight bullshit because one side like Russia is getting hung out to dry for supplying weapons, where as Israel isnt even getting a slap on the wrist for killing 1000+ people 88% civilian.
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Russia is doing the same thing with mercenaries and private military organizations (PMCs) in Ukraine right now, and has been since January when they took Crimea. This absolves them of official responsibility since they can deny invading with military troops. The hired guns are "separatists", many with russia citizenship, and no Ukrainian citizenship. So, Russia is doing the same thing, just by proxy.
Prox:
--- Quote from: Tezuni on July 29, 2014, 09:14:57 PM ---Russia is doing the same thing with mercenaries and private military organizations (PMCs) in Ukraine right now, and has been since January when they took Crimea. This absolves them of official responsibility since they can deny invading with military troops. The hired guns are "separatists", many with russia citizenship, and no Ukrainian citizenship. So, Russia is doing the same thing, just by proxy.
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The only difference is is that the separatists attack Ukrainian military instead of civilians and this so called occupation wasn't going on for 50+ years.
Nemisous:
--- Quote from: Tezuni on July 29, 2014, 09:14:57 PM ---Russia is doing the same thing with mercenaries and private military organizations (PMCs) in Ukraine right now, and has been since January when they took Crimea. This absolves them of official responsibility since they can deny invading with military troops. The hired guns are "separatists", many with russia citizenship, and no Ukrainian citizenship. So, Russia is doing the same thing, just by proxy.
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Yeah but Russian jets aren't bombing civilian targets. When Russia invaded Chimera they did so without firing a single shot, and not a single person died.
Tezuni:
--- Quote from: Prox on July 30, 2014, 12:19:14 AM ---The only difference is is that the separatists attack Ukrainian military instead of civilians and this so called occupation wasn't going on for 50+ years.
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Well there's always civilian casualties in conflicts. Considering Hamas was elected by the Palestinians, the fact that Hamas hides among civilians, the refusal of and breaking of cease fires by Hamas, the size of Gaza, and the warnings Israel gives before striking, it's hard to blame Israel for the heavy civilian casualties we're seeing in the the region. These are relevant factors to consider when making a comparison between this conflict and the one between Russia and Ukraine.
Prox:
--- Quote from: Tezuni on July 30, 2014, 06:59:31 PM ---Well there's always civilian casualties in conflicts. Considering Hamas was elected by the Palestinians, the fact that Hamas hides among civilians, the refusal of and breaking of cease fires by Hamas, the size of Gaza, and the warnings Israel gives before striking, it's hard to blame Israel for the heavy civilian casualties we're seeing in the the region.
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Literally the same propaganda that Israel has been using over and over again to justify their "defensive" war. And do you know why Hamas was elected by the Palestinians? Because they're the only ones who are willing and can stand up to the Zionist occupation and don't even tell me that they're terrorists, they're not. The only reason they are considered terrorists in the western countries is because of Israel lobbying. I mean, think about it, all Hamas does is attack Israel in retaliation to it's illegal invasion.
Then you say that Israel is giving warning before bombing houses right? Well, why in the hell are they doing this in the first place, why are they destroying houses, schools, power plants and even hospitals? Oh I'm sure it's because those big bad terrorists Hamas are in there hiding which is why the majority of casualties are civilian, right? Tell me how can someone with an open mind believe the bullshit the jews are spewing out. Israel was wrong from the very beginning of this conflict and they always will be, they started it, they illegally occupied the land, they used chemical weapons such as white phosphorus on civilians, it's a fact, I've said things like this many times ago in similar threads and I am saying this again.
It isn't Russia who should be getting sanctions by the west, it isn't Iran either, the only country which truly deserves the harshest sanctions is Israel until they stop the illegal invasion and accept to live with the Palestinians in peace and share the land with them.
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