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the struggle of being overweight
Xrain:
--- Quote from: Sabb on February 07, 2014, 09:40:00 AM ---It said in the first post his weight was 120 and is going to 115. Dropping 5 pounds isn't a big deal but idk if that's a healthy weight for his height. I know I'm at a healthy weight and I'm near 6 foot at 155. I'm too lazy to look up his BMI but his height is 5' 7" and at 16 (i believe) that isn't so bad. I think in general that it'd be healthier to gain a bit, but when thinking about his weight compared to height with age in mind, he's not actually terribly underweight.
I lied, quickly put his height and weight into a BMI calculator (might not be all that accurate cause I didn't spent much time searching). His BMI is 18 at 115lbs...
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For the record bmi is an antiquidated and completely useless measument. It isn't seriously used by anyone (or it shouldn't be) as a way of gauging healthy weight. The only way to do this ligitamately is to go into the doctor and they perform a series of tests that much more accurately gauge fitness.
BMI is only minorly accurate for a very specific build and weight the farther away you get from it the worse it gets. BMI can only really tell you stuff that is obvious just by looking at them.
Savion said as I understood it that his off season weight was 150, dropping almost 1/3 of your mass to 115 is a pretty serious deal.
Sabb:
--- Quote from: Xrain on February 07, 2014, 01:42:48 PM ---For the record bmi is an antiquidated and completely useless measument. It isn't seriously used by anyone (or it shouldn't be) as a way of gauging healthy weight. The only way to do this ligitamately is to go into the doctor and they perform a series of tests that much more accurately gauge fitness.
BMI is only minorly accurate for a very specific build and weight the farther away you get from it the worse it gets. BMI can only really tell you stuff that is obvious just by looking at them.
Savion said as I understood it that his off season weight was 150, dropping almost 1/3 of your mass to 115 is a pretty serious deal.
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I know BMI isn't a good measurement of overall health and fitness by any means because lots of things come into play other than weight to height. I wouldn't go as far to say it's a useless measurement however... It gives a quick average ratio and an estimate to what range his weight should be in. Besides that's not the only point I stated. Comparing what I know of my own weight and fitness to Novias with considering the height difference I would still say he's actually not terribly underweight, if I were to guess. I'm by no means saying I'm giving a medical examination of his health though lol. Some of the comments on the thread make it sound like he's a skeleton which is all I'm disagreeing with.
Everything I'm saying is based off the information Novias has given in the thread which gave me the understanding that Novias was previously 120. I guess you had a conversation with him outside of the forum in which case I'll leave it at that. I assumed you misread something since Novias has posted pictures which he said were him previously and I can't imagine that his weight was 150. If that's the case I would have to agree with what you've said, however.
--- Quote from: saivon on February 05, 2014, 08:38:48 PM ---what I mean is i used to be 120 now I'm 117
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--- Quote from: saivon on February 06, 2014, 08:50:44 AM ---I.can gain back to like 150 in muscle since I.can eat whatevwr the hell I want now since wrestling season.is.over and.im doing track
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I think this is the confusion. I interpreted the second comment as what his weight could reach after working out, not what his weight was?
yoshi:
I eat hotdogs every week and I'm 90.
step on my level mo
Xrain:
--- Quote from: Sabb on February 07, 2014, 02:12:12 PM ---I know BMI isn't a good measurement of overall health and fitness by any means because lots of things come into play other than weight to height. I wouldn't go as far to say it's a useless measurement however... It gives a quick average ratio and an estimate to what range his weight should be in. Besides that's not the only point I stated. Comparing what I know of my own weight and fitness to Novias with considering the height difference I would still say he's actually not terribly underweight, if I were to guess. I'm by no means saying I'm giving a medical examination of his health though lol. Some of the comments on the thread make it sound like he's a skeleton which is all I'm disagreeing with.
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I do not think you fully appreciate how antiquated BMI really is. When it first came out it was pretty much a state of the art index, the problem is, it came out around 1850. Yes that is the decade BEFORE the American civil war. Where our current best medical practice at the time consisted of if you had a slight issue on a limb, they cut it off with a dirty bone saw, where you subsequently got a serious infection and died.
Another state of the art medicine for the time was a pill called Blue Mass which its active ingredient was a great substance called mercury.
So a full 100 years later there was another medical "breakthrough" called Eugenics. Which was started in the US and then subsequently used by the Nazi party to justify sterilizing "undesirable people". This was nearly a full century after BMI was introduced. Oh we were also using things like skull measurements and proportion measurements of random African tribes to justify the superiority of certain races over others a full 40-50 years after BMI came out.
Mathematically BMI is completely flawed, it fails to take into account the square-cube law on increasing size and increasing mass.
So BMI should have died a long, long time ago.
saivon:
So there is a 3 pound allowance now so I can now become 116 :)))))) ;D :D :-X C:-) :money:
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