U.S Government Shutdown

[Prox]

Who do you think votes against those bills and regulation? Today's republicans will always be shitholes, sitting there in the house, collecting government paychecks DURING the shutdown, and shooting down anybody that has anything useful in society that'll benefit us. One day they're going to pull their heads out of their asses and realize how badly they've fucked over the country.

To be honest, it's neither the democrats nor republicans that have fucked the country up, both parties are two wings of the same bird. What you really should thank for this is those who control the money, which in US case is the federal reserve which is basically a private entity owned by the biggest world banks and is not under the government control, I've also heard multiple times that the way they operate is unconstitutional.
Video related: 'Dollar valueless, about to crash' - World Bank whistleblower
Also never forget about all that foreign aid to countries like Israel and all those wars that had no interest for the United States.

[Shockah]

Every principle you stated about Republicans has changed very rapidly in recent years. Most of the GOP are old, white, rich, conservative, and quite frankly, don't give a fuck about ANYONE but themselves and their money. I find it disgusting really how they're aloud to fuck over the rest of the country's population and only care about attending to their own kind. Why do you think Clean Energy isn't popping up left and right? Why do you think we don't have electric cars? Hell, why do you think Marijuana is illegal still? They accept money up the ass from these corporations to keep their horribly outdated methods up just to make a profit.

Everyone pushes for cleaner energy? Once those clean energy bills hit Congress by Democrats, NOOOOOOOOOOOPE. The oil/coal/fossil fuel companies keep tipping them off with loads of money to keep their shitty, outdated methods into play so they won't lose money to cleaner and efficient energy.

Who do you think votes against those bills and regulation? Today's republicans will always be shitholes, sitting there in the house, collecting government paychecks DURING the shutdown, and shooting down anybody that has anything useful in society that'll benefit us. One day they're going to pull their heads out of their asses and realize how badly they've fucked over the country.

First off, I consider myself a Moderate Republican and on the topic of cleaner energy I completely agree that it is and will continue to be a pressing issue for some time. Unfortunately what most people don't realize is that the only "clean" energy source we currently have that is efficient enough to meet our energy consumption needs AND our budget is nuclear energy and public opinion both Democrat and Republican of nuclear energy is very mixed. So while I believe we should be switching to cleaner energy sources unfortunately we have to put in a lot of research and a lot of dollars before any honestly become viable enough to sustain our country.

As for the topic of them being greedy as some are what you have to realize is I can say the contrasting statement about Democrats. "All Democrats are these days are uninformed voters and an extra mouth to feed, most vote Democrat knowing they'll be fed and clothed by the party and never actually contribute anything to society." Now as ignorant as that sounds look at the percentages of Democrat voters to Republicans and using your logic they show just that. 63% of voters earning over $200,000 annually vote Republican whilst exactly that percentage 63% of voters earning under $15,000 annually vote Democrat. I'm not at all saying there isn't a portion of those Republicans that are "greedy" by your definition what I am however saying is there is JUST as many Democrats who want to sit on their asses all day and let Obama take care of them with said Republicans tax dollars which simply isn't right in a capitalist society.

In regards to the legalization of Marijuana, I also concur it should be legalized and generally think the Republican party is simply out of touch with this generation. My fear however is shit like DUI in the case of marijuana and what have you. For MOST people marijuana is a calming laxing drug, it decreases productivity and motivation to do anything, this could also lead to complications as a society. Bottom line being, if people are gonna do it whether it's legal or not and it doesn't directly harm anyone (minus their brain cells) we might as well legalize it and tax it, seeing as how fucking desperately we're in need of any sort of revenue.

And electric cars aren't popular because no one fucking wants them, very few people are willing to go home to charge their car every 4 hours, that has nothing to do with the federal govt. that's just because the technology hasn't advanced enough to make them desirable to many people.

Edit* On the topic of charity I just wanted to note that surveys by google have shown in the past the average Republican household donates up to twice as much as the average Democrat household, other studies performed by Arthur Brooks have show a 30% larger contribution by Republican households to charity. Also if Democrats gave blood as often as Republicans do it has been reported the American blood supply would increase by nearly 45%.

[Cake Faice]

First off, I consider myself a Moderate Republican and on the topic of cleaner energy I completely agree that it is and will continue to be a pressing issue for some time. Unfortunately what most people don't realize is that the only "clean" energy source we currently have that is efficient enough to meet our energy consumption needs AND our budget is nuclear energy and public opinion both Democrat and Republican of nuclear energy is very mixed. So while I believe we should be switching to cleaner energy sources unfortunately we have to put in a lot of research and a lot of dollars before any honestly become viable enough to sustain our country.

As for the topic of them being greedy as some are what you have to realize is I can say the contrasting statement about Democrats. "All Democrats are these days are uninformed voters and an extra mouth to feed, most vote Democrat knowing they'll be fed and clothed by the party and never actually contribute anything to society." Now as ignorant as that sounds look at the percentages of Democrat voters to Republicans and using your logic they show just that. 63% of voters earning over $200,000 annually vote Republican whilst exactly that percentage 63% of voters earning under $15,000 annually vote Democrat. I'm not at all saying there isn't a portion of those Republicans that are "greedy" by your definition what I am however saying is there is JUST as many Democrats who want to sit on their asses all day and let Obama take care of them with said Republicans tax dollars which simply isn't right in a capitalist society.

In regards to the legalization of Marijuana, I also concur it should be legalized and generally think the Republican party is simply out of touch with this generation. My fear however is shit like DUI in the case of marijuana and what have you. For MOST people marijuana is a calming laxing drug, it decreases productivity and will to work, this could also lead to complications as a society. Bottom line being, if people are gonna do it whether it's legal or not we might as well legalize it and tax it, seeing as how fucking desperately we're in need of any sort of revenue.

And electric cars aren't popular because no one fucking wants them, very few people are willing to go home to charge their car every 4 hours, that has nothing to do with the federal govt. that's just because the technology hasn't advanced enough to make them desirable to many people.

IF we would have passed the clean energy laws in the first place and had research funded into them in the last 10/15 years, we would still need fossil fuels from the start. But as the years go on and time/technology progresses, we'd rely less and less on fossil fuel until it becomes and old, obsolete practice 50 years into the future. We will still need fossils fuels like oil for gas and petroleum based products (like everything), but we would really cut down on the usage rates if a large chunk of energy from the use gets cut out and replaced with clean energy.

And as for the democrat and republican thing, the republicans are just throwing a huge temper tantrum and delaying the government further just because "muh money" and won't pass any damn bill just to get that shutdown chunk of the government started back up again. They legitimately don't care about the people but for themselves. As with the marijuana issue, you honestly think the government cares about the DUI outside of the MAAD type groups? Nope. $$$.

And as for the electric car thing, sorry, but that was the most stupidest statement I've ever heard. Google ANY electric car sales figure, and you'd be surprised how much sales have jumped up when they first started becoming public. Example.

[Prox]

Speaking of an alternative energy source, have you guys heard of ITER project?
US ITER: Energy for the Future (2011)
This seems like an awesome way to generate energy and it is already being made.

[CodeKyuubi]

Speaking of an alternative energy source, have you guys heard of ITER project?
US ITER: Energy for the Future (2011)
This seems like an awesome way to generate energy and it is already being made.

Fusion was always a good idea. Implementing it is another story. Scientists have been trying to achieve nuclear fusion for a century. The problem with conventional fusion power is that, even with the most powerful lasers in the world to induce fusion, and the most advanced technology, we still have energy loss between creating the energy to power the fusion reaction and the energy that is produced from it.

Using ITER's tech also introduces an alleged problem: The energy they create is so intense that it would damage the materials the machine is made of, and the neutron bombardment of an insufficiently resistant material would cause radioactivity of said material.

[coolzeldad]

Yeah, the new large tokamak holds large expectations. If we can sustain a reaction like that at a level magnitudes higher of current forms than we may be able to power it's operation as well as extra power left over. Theoretically if done right we shouldn't accrue waste particles. Of course this is the desired effects and is the first of it's size so it will be some time before we see any commercial response to these if it indeed does get perfected. It's exciting stuff and I'm sure we will learn a lot from it.

[Xrain]

On that note the NIF (national ignition facility) which uses 192 lasers  to crush a fuel pellet for fusion just achieved break even with regards to energy put into the fuel and energy got out. Which is impressive considering the lasers output 500 terawatts. A major milestone in the road to fusion energy.

Also the neutron radiation issue is a problem, but it isn't a dealbreaker. The levels as to which it will irradiate the reactor walls isn't ultra high nor is it long lived <100 years usually. The materials weakening and heat loss from the plasma is a more significant problem on that front.

On the government shutdown note I am pissed as my dad can't fish for king crab as the agency that gives out crab fishing permits is part of the shutdown. So we are stuck sitting on our hands burning fuel.

Honestly it is both parties fault for being incapable of resolving situations. And then treating the American public as barganing chips for their power play games.

[coolzeldad]

Found the answer: http://www.collegehumor.com/embed/6923442/obamas-favorite-pokemon

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[Prox]

Fusion was always a good idea. Implementing it is another story. Scientists have been trying to achieve nuclear fusion for a century. The problem with conventional fusion power is that, even with the most powerful lasers in the world to induce fusion, and the most advanced technology, we still have energy loss between creating the energy to power the fusion reaction and the energy that is produced from it.

If you watch the video it says exactly the opposite.

Using ITER's tech also introduces an alleged problem: The energy they create is so intense that it would damage the materials the machine is made of, and the neutron bombardment of an insufficiently resistant material would cause radioactivity of said material.

Well I'm sure that they are making a machine that will be able to sustain fusion reaction for long periods of time otherwise why bother to build one in the first place?