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Re: North Korea says it's entering state of war with south
« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2013, 06:13:51 AM »
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For those who don't know, the Korean war was about to be an American vicotry.  Then China happened.  American troops get pushed back to the 38th parallel, and the fighting remained there for a while, not really advancing on either side.  A cease-fire was signed, and the two countries pulled back a bit, and between the two countries is a "demilitarized zone",  which is about 2.5 miles wide.  A few weeks ago, North Korea claimed that the armistice was no longer valid.  They have been "saber-rattling" for several years.  There's your history lesson for today.
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Re: North Korea says it's entering state of war with south
« Reply #16 on: April 03, 2013, 07:26:34 AM »
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I'm more interested if China will remain neutral through all this since it is still allied with North Korea but also allied with the USA in recent modern times.

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Re: North Korea says it's entering state of war with south
« Reply #17 on: April 03, 2013, 03:31:38 PM »
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I'm more interested if China will remain neutral through all this since it is still allied with North Korea but also allied with the USA in recent modern times.

I could be wrong, but I heard China isn't supporting north korea on this one.







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Re: North Korea says it's entering state of war with south
« Reply #18 on: April 03, 2013, 07:57:00 PM »
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I'm more interested if China will remain neutral through all this since it is still allied with North Korea but also allied with the USA in recent modern times.
I know China and the US have economic ties, but I don't think they're militarily allied.

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Re: North Korea says it's entering state of war with south
« Reply #19 on: April 03, 2013, 08:40:59 PM »
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I know China and the US have economic ties, but I don't think they're militarily allied.
An economic tie is a tie to everything. Where have you been the last two thousand years?
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Re: North Korea says it's entering state of war with south
« Reply #20 on: April 03, 2013, 10:04:21 PM »
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We all lol at North Korea for threatening us, but watch as they actually do something that actually hits the US pretty hard.

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Re: North Korea says it's entering state of war with south
« Reply #21 on: April 03, 2013, 10:31:13 PM »
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An economic tie is a tie to everything. Where have you been the last two thousand years?
Sure economics play a role, but an economic tie is not a military tie.  The US has never allied with them in war.

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Re: North Korea says it's entering state of war with south
« Reply #22 on: April 04, 2013, 12:09:40 AM »
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Sure economics play a role, but an economic tie is not a military tie.  The US has never allied with them in war.

Mhmm. No military action was ever taken based on economic interests.
Except, ya'know. A lot.
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Re: North Korea says it's entering state of war with south
« Reply #23 on: April 04, 2013, 12:10:42 AM »
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An economic tie is a tie to everything. Where have you been the last two thousand years?

Tell that to the Japanese before WWII, we accounted for ~55% of their national exports, and ~37% of their imports when they bombed us. It had dropped off some during the depression, but we certainty were a major economic tie. We also provided a significant amount of metals and machinery to Japan right before they attacked us.

There are countless examples throughout history of major trading partners going to war.

Trade and Economic ties certainty play a role in diplomatic ties, but generally haven't prevented the two states from warring
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Re: North Korea says it's entering state of war with south
« Reply #24 on: April 04, 2013, 12:15:52 AM »
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Trade and Economic ties certainty play a role in diplomatic ties, but generally haven't prevented the two states from warring
In many cases, its a major deciding factor. Thats what I was trying to say.
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Re: North Korea says it's entering state of war with south
« Reply #25 on: April 04, 2013, 12:35:46 AM »
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In many cases, its a major deciding factor. Thats what I was trying to say.

The original premise as I read it is that if a country has a strong economic tie they also have a strong military tie. Which isn't the case, China is a strong economic partner, but we have no defense pacts with them, nor have they really participated in any of our recent engagements. In-fact militarily we are pretty hostile to each other.

But yes you are correct, in many cases having a strong economic tie will make two country's more reluctant to go to war. At the same time, it is just one of countless major factors that determine if two countries go to war.
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Re: North Korea says it's entering state of war with south
« Reply #26 on: April 04, 2013, 06:24:43 AM »
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Mhmm. No military action was ever taken based on economic interests.
Except, ya'know. A lot.
... that's not what I said. lol.