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.:`=-~rANdOm~`-=:. Game Servers (Read Only) => Discussion => Topic started by: memo3300 on March 31, 2013, 04:25:16 PM
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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57577110/north-korea-says-its-entering-state-of-war-with-south/ (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57577110/north-korea-says-its-entering-state-of-war-with-south/)
was surprised no one posted this by now
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>2 days ago
Yep, typical North Korea bark but no bite shit talking.
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... Hasn't this been going on for... a while now?
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The Korean war never officially ended in the first place though.
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Does that mean the USA is soon gonna go "HURR TIME TO GO PROTECT OTHER COUNTRIES EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T GOT THE MONEY FOR IT!" ?
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Does that mean the USA is soon gonna go "HURR TIME TO GO PROTECT OTHER COUNTRIES EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T GOT THE MONEY FOR IT!" ?
^^^ This.. most likely going to happen
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Does that mean the USA is soon gonna go "HURR TIME TO GO PROTECT OTHER COUNTRIES EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T GOT THE MONEY FOR IT!" ?
Google the history of the Korean war, particularly the cease fire, before saying stupid shit.
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This is all just an elaborate April Fool's joke,
NK is actually going to make a peace treaty with SK and everything will be all fine and dandy :D
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Google the history of the Korean war, particularly the cease fire, before saying stupid shit.
We were in that war, what point were you trying to make seeing as it went over my head.
This is all just an elaborate April Fool's joke,
NK is actually going to make a peace treaty with SK and everything will be all fine and dandy :D
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Heh that'd be the best Aprils Fools joke of all time.
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I guess it might not be common knowledge, but North and South Korea have always technically been "at war" ever since the armistice expired. This is exactly why South Korea maintains a 20,000 strong force at the border at all times. This grandstanding is nothing new.
Minefields, artillery, tanks, machine guns, mortars, MLRS... Not to mention US naval bases in nearby Japan and US garrisons in South Korea.
Edit: Also Hideo, no one has EVER started a war and had the money to fund it. World War II alone put the U.S. nearly 4 trillion dollars into debt (Adjusted for inflation to match today's rates). The point of a war economy is to stimulate industry through spending and employment. Money never just "disappears."
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I guess it might not be common knowledge, but North and South Korea have always technically been "at war" ever since the armistice expired. This is exactly why South Korea maintains a 20,000 strong force at the border at all times. This grandstanding is nothing new.
Minefields, artillery, tanks, machine guns, mortars, MLRS... Not to mention US naval bases in nearby Japan and US garrisons in South Korea.
Yeah but now they are really at war. Going to war with a country youre at war with means its serious this time.
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North Korea has threatened to escalate over 60 times over the decades. Their military is a paper tiger as well.
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Edit: Also Hideo, no one has EVER started a war and had the money to fund it. World War II alone put the U.S. nearly 4 trillion dollars into debt (Adjusted for inflation to match today's rates). The point of a war economy is to stimulate industry through spending and employment. Money never just "disappears."
If you look at the WWII debt as a percentage of GDP the debt we accumulated would be around 16.8 trillion dollars. While this isn't the correct monetary value of how much debt we held, it is a good measure in the practical sense of how deep in debt we were.
Does that mean the USA is soon gonna go "HURR TIME TO GO PROTECT OTHER COUNTRIES EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T GOT THE MONEY FOR IT!" ?
While the Iraq war was of debatable utility, for us to refuse to honor a mutual defense pact with a nation that we are allied with, like South Korea; would collapse the US economy much quicker than accruing excess debt ever would.
If we reneged on a promise of that magnitude, no one would trust any other kind of promise we would make, such as the promise to pay back our debts.
This a completely different situation compared to us invading a country.
While North and South Korea have a storied history, the backlash if we refused to help would be like if we refused to help a European ally or Canada if they were invaded.
Honestly, I don't see DPRK intentionally starting a hot war with South Korea and the US; though accidentally starting a war by some over exuberant action of a group of soldiers on their side is a reasonable possibility.
What remains to be seen is if the spiral into war could be stopped before it escalated too far.
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This is all just an elaborate April Fool's joke,
NK is actually going to make a peace treaty with SK and everything will be all fine and dandy :D
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Instead of a nuclear payload... It'll be chocolate bunnies and confetti.
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For those who don't know, the Korean war was about to be an American vicotry. Then China happened. American troops get pushed back to the 38th parallel, and the fighting remained there for a while, not really advancing on either side. A cease-fire was signed, and the two countries pulled back a bit, and between the two countries is a "demilitarized zone", which is about 2.5 miles wide. A few weeks ago, North Korea claimed that the armistice was no longer valid. They have been "saber-rattling" for several years. There's your history lesson for today.
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I'm more interested if China will remain neutral through all this since it is still allied with North Korea but also allied with the USA in recent modern times.
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I'm more interested if China will remain neutral through all this since it is still allied with North Korea but also allied with the USA in recent modern times.
I could be wrong, but I heard China isn't supporting north korea on this one.
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I'm more interested if China will remain neutral through all this since it is still allied with North Korea but also allied with the USA in recent modern times.
I know China and the US have economic ties, but I don't think they're militarily allied.
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I know China and the US have economic ties, but I don't think they're militarily allied.
An economic tie is a tie to everything. Where have you been the last two thousand years?
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We all lol at North Korea for threatening us, but watch as they actually do something that actually hits the US pretty hard.
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An economic tie is a tie to everything. Where have you been the last two thousand years?
Sure economics play a role, but an economic tie is not a military tie. The US has never allied with them in war.
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Sure economics play a role, but an economic tie is not a military tie. The US has never allied with them in war.
Mhmm. No military action was ever taken based on economic interests.
Except, ya'know. A lot.
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An economic tie is a tie to everything. Where have you been the last two thousand years?
Tell that to the Japanese before WWII, we accounted for ~55% of their national exports, and ~37% of their imports when they bombed us. It had dropped off some during the depression, but we certainty were a major economic tie. We also provided a significant amount of metals and machinery to Japan right before they attacked us.
There are countless examples throughout history of major trading partners going to war.
Trade and Economic ties certainty play a role in diplomatic ties, but generally haven't prevented the two states from warring
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Trade and Economic ties certainty play a role in diplomatic ties, but generally haven't prevented the two states from warring
In many cases, its a major deciding factor. Thats what I was trying to say.
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In many cases, its a major deciding factor. Thats what I was trying to say.
The original premise as I read it is that if a country has a strong economic tie they also have a strong military tie. Which isn't the case, China is a strong economic partner, but we have no defense pacts with them, nor have they really participated in any of our recent engagements. In-fact militarily we are pretty hostile to each other.
But yes you are correct, in many cases having a strong economic tie will make two country's more reluctant to go to war. At the same time, it is just one of countless major factors that determine if two countries go to war.
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Mhmm. No military action was ever taken based on economic interests.
Except, ya'know. A lot.
... that's not what I said. lol.