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[saivon]

So this one is about getting shots I just got mine today due the flue and my mom thinking 500 people died from it.

Any who do you guy's like getting shot's in general ? I hate it because after a while my arm hurts and get's swallon and right now it feels like my left part of my neck is swallon to.


 

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I also learned in science that west coast we don't' really have to worry about power economically because we have lot's of dam's powering our stuff and also people on east coast get paid more then people on west coast because they don't really use water as a natural resource for power but instead they use coal and coal is more expensive because of obvious reasons and also that I think los angless wants to use some of the Columbia river water to power there city ? that's what I heard my teacher said. And I also learned that why water towers and stuff etc. are on hills is because of the gravitational force pulling it down and sending it through our houses or whatever else and how if you have like a 5 story house and let's say your above the water tower it's going to be harder to get water to your sink and stuff because you would need a pump for the water to go through the top of your house and travel to the sink. That's why in most cities we have water towers on top of buildings and stuff for drinking sinks etc. Also there maybe some pumps there to I know that in the Seattle the space neadle also has a pump due to it well yah being above the water tower and that's what I learned in science.

[Dandelion]

I have a fear of needles, but besides that I think flu shots are completely stupid. My boyfriend got one and still caught the flu. Also, you can get the flu from the shot because they're basically taking bits of the virus and stickin it up your blood stream.
I haven't had the flu shot in about 3 or 4 years and I've only caught the flu once during those years.

[Deacon]

I'm going to have to disagree that the vaccines are stupid. They're a proven method to help prevent the illness, in both severity and spread.

And yes, that's how your body learns to fight the virus.

And your immune system is different, but there can always be new strains, stronger virus...es, and good old fashioned not being able to fight it off.

[Dandelion]

Not necessarily. I have a strict diet of 4 raw meals and 1 cooked a day and go to the gym frequently, so I just naturally fight off pretty much anything.
It's only within the last century that people as a whole started to get fat and pudgy and catch illness. Cancer has gone up because of all the bad things that people eat as well. Of course, I'm not saying any of those things are completely avoidable, but they are to some degree

[Deacon]

Not necessarily. I have a strict diet of 4 raw meals and 1 cooked a day and go to the gym frequently, so I just naturally fight off pretty much anything.
It's only within the last century that people as a whole started to get fat and pudgy and catch illness. Cancer has gone up because of all the bad things that people eat as well. Of course, I'm not saying any of those things are completely avoidable, but they are to some degree

Which is a different story. You're arguing against your own vaccination, while I am arguing for vaccinations for others. We should stop lol

[Dandelion]

Which is a different story. You're arguing against your own vaccination, while I am arguing for vaccinations for others. We should stop lol

I think where I was going with that, is the more healthy the less its needed?
But yes, let's keep the happiness going

[Deacon]

I think where I was going with that, is the more healthy the less its needed?
But yes, let's keep the happiness going

I think it depends on your immune system.

[Viole]

I have a strict diet of 4 raw meals and 1 cooked a day and go to the gym frequently, so I just naturally fight off pretty much anything.

I have a strict diet of 4 raw meals and 1 cooked a day

I have a strict diet of 4 raw meals

4 raw meals

What's in them?  And 5 meals is more than I eat... in like 3 days...

[Doctor Who]

Haven't had a flue shot in like 5 years and haven't caught a single illness during those years

[Dandelion]

What's in them?  And 5 meals is more than I eat... in like 3 days...

For breakfast I have a smoothie made of organic greens and fruit
Second breakfast is almond milk and a bowl of fruit
Lunch is a salad with 50/50 spinach and baby greens mix, along with whatever veggies are in season
Second lunch is usually tea and basically whatever veggies and fruit I want. I might also scramble some eggs that are from one of my friends(they have chickens) for extra protein and fat if I did a lot that day.
Dinner is whatever I want, though if it's a week day I usually eat a turkey or a veggie burger with lots and lots of condiments

Because I have a lot of meals, I eat way smaller portions and usually have to split meals with people if I go out for dinner.

[Tortie]

I don't like getting shots just as much as the next guy, but I can say that they are definitely necessary. It's great protection and even though shots suck, I'd rather have a numbing pain for a few days then be sick with the flu.
It's different for everyone and how healthy their immune systems are.  Basically how I understand how the vaccine works:

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The doctor injects a weak form of the flu into your bloodstream, and your immune system immediately gets to work and produces a whole bunch of antigens which travel to the virus and gather information about it. They recognize it as a pathogen (threat) and they tell the immune system to produce B cells (I think) and they produce antibodies and memory cells. The antibodies attack the virus, and since it is a weak form, they easily clear them all out. So the immune system has a lot of leftover antibodies to fight this specific type of virus. Also the immune system produces memory cells which basically store data on how to make these specific antibodies. So after something like 2 weeks, your body is prepared for any other attack from the same virus, with a much faster response time, so fast as you don't even get any symptoms, which makes you feel immune to the virus.

I may be wrong in some aspects, but this is how I learned it (as much as I remember) and my amateur view on understanding vaccines.
But I mean, if you have a healthy body and healthy Immune system, that's probably why you don't get sick that much. Shots are just extra protection.

[Dandelion]

But I mean, if you have a healthy body and healthy Immune system, that's probably why you don't get sick that much. Shots are just extra protection.

This is pretty much what I was getting at earlier.
Though now that I think about it, children should always have flu shots because they have more of a chance to get sick since they would be constantly exposed to it at school and such things.

[Tortie]

This is pretty much what I was getting at earlier.
Though now that I think about it, children should always have flu shots because they have more of a chance to get sick since they would be constantly exposed to it at school and such things.

Yes, now if only we could a establish a way to vaccinate without using the needle, so there wouldn't be much discouragement.

[Dandelion]

Yes, now if only we could a establish a way to vaccinate without using the needle, so there wouldn't be much discouragement.

I thought they did, but if I remember right it costs more and is bad for people with asthma? It's like, something they put up your nose or something

[Cake Faice]

For breakfast I have a smoothie made of organic greens and fruit
Second breakfast is almond milk and a bowl of fruit
Lunch is a salad with 50/50 spinach and baby greens mix, along with whatever veggies are in season
Second lunch is usually tea and basically whatever veggies and fruit I want. I might also scramble some eggs that are from one of my friends(they have chickens) for extra protein and fat if I did a lot that day.
Dinner is whatever I want, though if it's a week day I usually eat a turkey or a veggie burger with lots and lots of condiments

Because I have a lot of meals, I eat way smaller portions and usually have to split meals with people if I go out for dinner.

I'd want to be put out of my misery if I had to live like that.