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Do you guys even lift?
« on: January 10, 2013, 03:09:22 PM »
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No seriously, any of you guys lift?

Been trying (and somewhat successful) on working out more, and eating healthier.(Even though I just ate half a dominos pizza.)

Got any special tips/obvious tips that aren't that obvious?
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Re: Do you guys even lift?
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2013, 03:19:57 PM »
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Got any special tips/obvious tips that aren't that obvious?

Dedication.

Don't just go once a week and say "OKAY THATS IT, TIME TO GO DRINK PEPSI". Maybe I exaggerated on that, but you get the point. Push yourself and you'll see the results.




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Re: Do you guys even lift?
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2013, 03:50:46 PM »
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Depends on what you're doing. Are you trying to lift to lose weight, or trying to lift to gain muscle? Or both? Or just to be generally healthy and not necessarily either of those?
No matter which case there's one thing I can say for sure though. Like Silent said, really dedicate yourself to it. Once you have and you're working out lifting w.e at a consistent basis it's quite satisfying once you start seeing results, which is very encouraging, but you've got to try not to let other shit get in the way and end up not working out for a week. Especially if you're lifting weights. You can lose quite a bit of muscle in that amount of time surprisingly, though it's much easier to re-gain than it is to gain initially. I haven't been lifting weights or doing cardio outside of some sets of things here and there that I do every day, but not an actual workout. Like a set or two of bench flies/dumbbell presses, set or two of chinups/pullups with 8 - 12 reps, set or two of pushups from 10 - 30, at least 100 situps, sometimes with 20 - 40lbs weights, set or two of curls, etc. Sometimes I don't do that all at once though, sometimes I spread that throughout the day and I'll do it on top of an actual workout as well as long as I don't feel like I'm straining my muscles too much. And that's a fairly decent amount of shit to do, but the past week or so I've been doing much less than I normally would because of how completely tired I am from other stuff (not my workouts), and because I started getting migraines after doing cardio occasionally. Basically really fucking sucks, but I still haven't even completely stopped exercising and I've lost a noticeable (at least to me) amount of muscle from my biceps. So yea, if you start, really try not to stop even for a short time, keep working out at a consistent rate. And if you don't start, then fuck you start.

Also if you're trying to lose some weight as well really try not to focus too much on dieting. You can focus on healthy eating obviously, and well should actually, but if you're eating fewer calories than you should be to maintain your weight level then be extremely careful. If you're not eating enough working out is a lot harder and a lot more dangerous. Way more likely to pull a muscle or at least strain them too hard as you'll have a lot less energy and will probably be a bit more reckless. Plus it's simply not effective, you need fat and carbs to build muscle so more or less eliminating that is a bad idea for the weight loss and the muscle gain.


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Re: Do you guys even lift?
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2013, 03:59:09 PM »
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Dedication.

Don't just go once a week and say "OKAY THATS IT, TIME TO GO DRINK PEPSI". Maybe I exaggerated on that, but you get the point. Push yourself and you'll see the results.

Yea, I've been doing it like 3 times a week and crap at home. I usually am sore as hell the next day lol.  Thinking about getting a gym membership, but they are so pricey...

Depends on what you're doing. Are you trying to lift to lose weight, or trying to lift to gain muscle? Or both? Or just to be generally healthy and not necessarily either of those?
No matter which case there's one thing I can say for sure though. Like Silent said, really dedicate yourself to it. Once you have and you're working out lifting w.e at a consistent basis it's quite satisfying once you start seeing results, which is very encouraging, but you've got to try not to let other shit get in the way and end up not working out for a week. Especially if you're lifting weights. You can lose quite a bit of muscle in that amount of time surprisingly, though it's much easier to re-gain than it is to gain initially. I haven't been lifting weights or doing cardio outside of some sets of things here and there that I do every day, but not an actual workout. Like a set or two of bench flies/dumbbell presses, set or two of chinups/pullups with 8 - 12 reps, set or two of pushups from 10 - 30, at least 100 situps, sometimes with 20 - 40lbs weights, set or two of curls, etc. Sometimes I don't do that all at once though, sometimes I spread that throughout the day and I'll do it on top of an actual workout as well as long as I don't feel like I'm straining my muscles too much. And that's a fairly decent amount of shit to do, but the past week or so I've been doing much less than I normally would because of how completely tired I am from other stuff (not my workouts), and because I started getting migraines after doing cardio occasionally. Basically really fucking sucks, but I still haven't even completely stopped exercising and I've lost a noticeable (at least to me) amount of muscle from my biceps. So yea, if you start, really try not to stop even for a short time, keep working out at a consistent rate. And if you don't start, then fuck you start.

Also if you're trying to lose some weight as well really try not to focus too much on dieting. You can focus on healthy eating obviously, and well should actually, but if you're eating fewer calories than you should be to maintain your weight level then be extremely careful. If you're not eating enough working out is a lot harder and a lot more dangerous. Way more likely to pull a muscle or at least strain them too hard as you'll have a lot less energy and will probably be a bit more reckless. Plus it's simply not effective, you need fat and carbs to build muscle so more or less eliminating that is a bad idea for the weight loss and the muscle gain.

Some pretty good tips.

I'm just mostly trying to gain muscle/meat and be healthier.  I don't need to lose any weight at all(opposite really lol.)

I drink the protein drink crap after working out, for building.. whatever it does lol. Been eating a lot more meat too.  I had how slow the process is though, just seeing some results would be nice. :p
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Re: Do you guys even lift?
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2013, 04:18:36 PM »
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Yea, I've been doing it like 3 times a week and crap at home. I usually am sore as hell the next day lol.  Thinking about getting a gym membership, but they are so pricey...

Some pretty good tips.

I'm just mostly trying to gain muscle/meat and be healthier.  I don't need to lose any weight at all(opposite really lol.)

I drink the protein drink crap after working out, for building.. whatever it does lol. Been eating a lot more meat too.  I had how slow the process is though, just seeing some results would be nice. :p
Yea from what I heard some of the protein drinks really help some people. I haven't used any of that stuff though. Been considering getting a creatine supplement though, but it's pricey and I haven't looked enough into it yet and not totally sure if I want some aid like that. If you don't know what creatine is you might want to look into it yourself. Supposed to be some anabolic thing you take to allow muscle to store more of your energy I believe or something like that. And yea I know a lot of body building supplements don't work but it seems creatine might. It's not like you're supposed to just take it and sit on your ass though. It's only supposed to enhance the gains from your workout, nothing else. Wouldn't take my word for it though because I haven't used it and haven't really researched much on it but if it's something you may be interested in then I think it's worth looking into a bit.

Also, if you're just trying to gain weight with muscle be careful. Sometimes you might be really motivated and w.e and really want to improve so you'll push yourself really hard but don't be stupid about it. If you're feeling like your muscles are sort of being stretched unnaturally or something while you're lifting then it's probably a good idea to stop or check your form, and obviously if you're doing something like bench pressing make sure you've got a spotter. It's not worth risking damaging your body or muscles. Especially with shoulder shit. Just pay close attention to your form on w.e you're doing and make sure none of your joints are going to snap or some shit cause you're doing something stupid. And if you're unsure if you're doing something right make sure to figure it out. Look it up or ask someone.

Oh and since you're doing it 3 times a week, try to keep it around there. Working out every day probably wouldn't be a good thing. Can be fairly easy to push yourself too much and then your muscle will take a really long time to recover. And try to make sure you're not just focusing on one muscle group too much, try focusing on a different one each day if possible.


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Re: Do you guys even lift?
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2013, 05:06:47 PM »
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>this whole thread
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But in all seriousness, I can't even lift 30 pounds ;~;
I seriously need to exercise, or even run a few laps around my yard for fucks sakes.

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Re: Do you guys even lift?
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2013, 11:16:08 PM »
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I lift.
Protein supplements are just there to help you acheive the amount of protein you need to consume for a day, it's just like eating meat or cheese, nothing special in there.
If you want to gain muscle and weight you need to eat about 700-1,000 calories more than you burn, but you'll also gain fat (naturally). You calculate the amount of calories you need based on your RMR, google it =P
You also need to consume about 1.5-2.0X your weight protein in miligrams, don't remember the amount of carbohydrate though.
Your diet is important just like going to gym. If you won't eat enough, you'll barely see results.

Another important thing is to make sure you do everything properly and with the right technique. It's better to lower the weight and do the lifting properly, than raising it and doing it bad. You'll just end up injuring yourself.
A bit more info that might help you - To gain muscles you need to do 6-12 repititions, while 8 is the most recommended - To gain power (be stronger) you need to do 1-6 reps, while 5 is the most recommended - To gain endurance you need to do 12+ reps (which might help you in martial arts, but it's basically a waste of time to lift that much).

I'm currently doing a 5X5 program (basically a powerlifting program), which works on power, since I want to first be able to lift above 100KG in certain lifts and then I will probably go back to a bodybuilding program.

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Re: Do you guys even lift?
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2013, 12:36:31 AM »
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Due to my high metabolism, I don't grow fat. :/

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Re: Do you guys even lift?
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2013, 03:36:52 AM »
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Due to my high metabolism, I don't grow fat. :/

Just so you know, there's no such thing.  You simply don't eat enough, you might think you do, but you don't =P

At the beginning it's hard to eat 1,000 calories more than you burn, but when the weight you lift increases and the more you get used to eating so much, you'll be able to do it with no problems. I'm sure you'll gain weight if you do that.
I also have high metabolism and I used to weigh 48 KG at 1.75 meters, but after 2 months of exercising and eating properly I went up to 55KG and after another 2 months or so up to 57 KG. I didn't really get the chance to exercise lately so I'm down to 56 KG now. Before that I was exercising for about a year, I wasn't persistent and even when I was I wasn't eating enough so my weight barely increased.

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Re: Do you guys even lift?
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2013, 05:41:39 AM »
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Before you start you need to know your goals, then make sure to do some research on the internet, then, depending on what equipment you have, make yourself some sort of exercise program or you can even look up for one somewhere on the internet. And always learn the exercise with lower weights before you start using bigger ones. You also need to eat quite a lot, but not just anything, there are certain diets and supplements but instead of wasting money on that I just add food that has vitamins, proteins and other good stuff to my normal every day food.


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Re: Do you guys even lift?
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2013, 09:16:39 AM »
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Just so you know, there's no such thing.  You simply don't eat enough, you might think you do, but you don't =P

At the beginning it's hard to eat 1,000 calories more than you burn, but when the weight you lift increases and the more you get used to eating so much, you'll be able to do it with no problems. I'm sure you'll gain weight if you do that.
I also have high metabolism and I used to weigh 48 KG at 1.75 meters, but after 2 months of exercising and eating properly I went up to 55KG and after another 2 months or so up to 57 KG. I didn't really get the chance to exercise lately so I'm down to 56 KG now. Before that I was exercising for about a year, I wasn't persistent and even when I was I wasn't eating enough so my weight barely increased.
I don't believe that whole calorie thing is really true. If you're eating more than you're burning then you're basically just growing bulks of fat, not muscle. Your muscles need a lot of protein to develop though, and fat, but it burns the fat. So saying "you should eat 1k calories more than you burn" isn't true. You'll just need a lot more calories depending on your lean muscle mass. And your metabolism significantly increases from working out naturally because it needs the protein, vitamins, carbs fat, all that shit to repair and maintain muscle. But yea, if you're actually eating 1000 more calories than you're burning, then you're just building up fat. Keep in mind that your body burns energy while recovering from workouts as well so it might seem like you're eating more calories than is being burned, but actually your body is probably just requiring more energy after workouts in order for it to recover. So yea, might not be that many more calories than you're burning but you will probably be eating a lot more calories than before. Unfortunately I'm not doing this yet though because I want to get more lean first so I'm usually eating less than 1000 calories a day and still trying to work out. Definitely makes it more challenging but I'll be able to eat more and workout more once I've lost a bit more.

But yea for Hideo I'm assuming you're eating like 1000 - 1500 calories a day unless your metabolism is really high. You're going to want to bump that up to at least 2000 probably 2500 especially on workout days. Once you're gaining a lot of muscle you'll notice how significantly your metabolism will grow however, cause you'll really NEED to eat more. It's definitely a noticeable change, or at least for me.


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Re: Do you guys even lift?
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2013, 10:51:50 AM »
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All my strength is lower body - walk a lot [many miles per week, >12 easily], play music games like DDR, ITG/ITG2, Pump it Up on the hardest difficulty for hours on end every week, ride my bike a lot when it isn't the dead of winter, and for a while took up kickboxing - my legs can consistently press > 200lbs.

It's finding time to work on the upper body that seems damn near impossible for me.   >:(
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Re: Do you guys even lift?
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2013, 04:03:24 PM »
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I don't believe that whole calorie thing is really true. If you're eating more than you're burning then you're basically just growing bulks of fat, not muscle. Your muscles need a lot of protein to develop though, and fat, but it burns the fat. So saying "you should eat 1k calories more than you burn" isn't true. You'll just need a lot more calories depending on your lean muscle mass. And your metabolism significantly increases from working out naturally because it needs the protein, vitamins, carbs fat, all that shit to repair and maintain muscle. But yea, if you're actually eating 1000 more calories than you're burning, then you're just building up fat. Keep in mind that your body burns energy while recovering from workouts as well so it might seem like you're eating more calories than is being burned, but actually your body is probably just requiring more energy after workouts in order for it to recover. So yea, might not be that many more calories than you're burning but you will probably be eating a lot more calories than before. Unfortunately I'm not doing this yet though because I want to get more lean first so I'm usually eating less than 1000 calories a day and still trying to work out. Definitely makes it more challenging but I'll be able to eat more and workout more once I've lost a bit more.

But yea for Hideo I'm assuming you're eating like 1000 - 1500 calories a day unless your metabolism is really high. You're going to want to bump that up to at least 2000 probably 2500 especially on workout days. Once you're gaining a lot of muscle you'll notice how significantly your metabolism will grow however, cause you'll really NEED to eat more. It's definitely a noticeable change, or at least for me.

I don't just "believe", if you want to maximize your workout's efficiency on your muscles growth you'll have to eat more than you need even if it means fattening up a lil bit. That's why bodybuilders usually do it in cycles, one cycle they gain weight, fat and muscles, the other they lose weight and fat.
I've just seen so many results of people who did follow this and not "bro-science" + seen it on my body. It's true that you can maintain low body fat if you consume about 100-200 calories more than your RMR while the biggest meal is after the exercise, but is a bet and you won't maximize the efficiency of your workout that way. It's simply easier to just do it in cycles.

Btw, I burn about 2,500 calories at workout days, which means I need to consume about 3,200-3,500 calories. I do it "clean" by eating only healthy stuff and so I gain less than people who do it "dirty" and eat pizzas all day.

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Re: Do you guys even lift?
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2013, 10:44:30 AM »
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I didn't* work out for like 3 or 4 days. I felt guilty... but did yesterday. so I feels better. :3


Due to my high metabolism, I don't grow fat. :/

Samez. Shit sucks lol.  But just cause a person isn't fat doesn't mean they are healthy.

( However all I (use) to eat is complete junk food, pizza and other unhealthy shit and my doctors said I'm completely fine in health weirdly. )

Just so you know, there's no such thing.  You simply don't eat enough, you might think you do, but you don't =P

At the beginning it's hard to eat 1,000 calories more than you burn, but when the weight you lift increases and the more you get used to eating so much, you'll be able to do it with no problems. I'm sure you'll gain weight if you do that.
I also have high metabolism and I used to weigh 48 KG at 1.75 meters, but after 2 months of exercising and eating properly I went up to 55KG and after another 2 months or so up to 57 KG. I didn't really get the chance to exercise lately so I'm down to 56 KG now. Before that I was exercising for about a year, I wasn't persistent and even when I was I wasn't eating enough so my weight barely increased.

Every since I actually starting being active I've been hungry as fuck 24/7 lol

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Re: Do you guys even lift?
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2013, 10:49:43 AM »
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I did work out for like 3 or 4 days. I felt guilty... but did yesterday. so I feels better. :3


Samez. Shit sucks lol.  But just cause a person isn't fat doesn't mean they are healthy.

( However all I (use) to eat is complete junk food, pizza and other unhealthy shit and my doctors said I'm completely fine in health weirdly. )

Every since I actually starting being active I've been hungry as fuck 24/7 lol

Yeah, that's what I like about exercising ;P  Take the chance to eat tons of tasty food while you can xD
After you finish building up muscle mass, you'll need to watch your diet more to lose the fat and it's hard when you're fucking hungry because of exercises.