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Title: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: HideoKojima on January 10, 2013, 03:09:22 PM
No seriously, any of you guys lift?

Been trying (and somewhat successful) on working out more, and eating healthier.(Even though I just ate half a dominos pizza.)

Got any special tips/obvious tips that aren't that obvious?
Title: Re: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: Dale Feles on January 10, 2013, 03:19:57 PM
Got any special tips/obvious tips that aren't that obvious?

Dedication.

Don't just go once a week and say "OKAY THATS IT, TIME TO GO DRINK PEPSI". Maybe I exaggerated on that, but you get the point. Push yourself and you'll see the results.
Title: Re: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: Sabb on January 10, 2013, 03:50:46 PM
Depends on what you're doing. Are you trying to lift to lose weight, or trying to lift to gain muscle? Or both? Or just to be generally healthy and not necessarily either of those?
No matter which case there's one thing I can say for sure though. Like Silent said, really dedicate yourself to it. Once you have and you're working out lifting w.e at a consistent basis it's quite satisfying once you start seeing results, which is very encouraging, but you've got to try not to let other shit get in the way and end up not working out for a week. Especially if you're lifting weights. You can lose quite a bit of muscle in that amount of time surprisingly, though it's much easier to re-gain than it is to gain initially. I haven't been lifting weights or doing cardio outside of some sets of things here and there that I do every day, but not an actual workout. Like a set or two of bench flies/dumbbell presses, set or two of chinups/pullups with 8 - 12 reps, set or two of pushups from 10 - 30, at least 100 situps, sometimes with 20 - 40lbs weights, set or two of curls, etc. Sometimes I don't do that all at once though, sometimes I spread that throughout the day and I'll do it on top of an actual workout as well as long as I don't feel like I'm straining my muscles too much. And that's a fairly decent amount of shit to do, but the past week or so I've been doing much less than I normally would because of how completely tired I am from other stuff (not my workouts), and because I started getting migraines after doing cardio occasionally. Basically really fucking sucks, but I still haven't even completely stopped exercising and I've lost a noticeable (at least to me) amount of muscle from my biceps. So yea, if you start, really try not to stop even for a short time, keep working out at a consistent rate. And if you don't start, then fuck you start.

Also if you're trying to lose some weight as well really try not to focus too much on dieting. You can focus on healthy eating obviously, and well should actually, but if you're eating fewer calories than you should be to maintain your weight level then be extremely careful. If you're not eating enough working out is a lot harder and a lot more dangerous. Way more likely to pull a muscle or at least strain them too hard as you'll have a lot less energy and will probably be a bit more reckless. Plus it's simply not effective, you need fat and carbs to build muscle so more or less eliminating that is a bad idea for the weight loss and the muscle gain.
Title: Re: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: HideoKojima on January 10, 2013, 03:59:09 PM
Dedication.

Don't just go once a week and say "OKAY THATS IT, TIME TO GO DRINK PEPSI". Maybe I exaggerated on that, but you get the point. Push yourself and you'll see the results.

Yea, I've been doing it like 3 times a week and crap at home. I usually am sore as hell the next day lol.  Thinking about getting a gym membership, but they are so pricey...

Depends on what you're doing. Are you trying to lift to lose weight, or trying to lift to gain muscle? Or both? Or just to be generally healthy and not necessarily either of those?
No matter which case there's one thing I can say for sure though. Like Silent said, really dedicate yourself to it. Once you have and you're working out lifting w.e at a consistent basis it's quite satisfying once you start seeing results, which is very encouraging, but you've got to try not to let other shit get in the way and end up not working out for a week. Especially if you're lifting weights. You can lose quite a bit of muscle in that amount of time surprisingly, though it's much easier to re-gain than it is to gain initially. I haven't been lifting weights or doing cardio outside of some sets of things here and there that I do every day, but not an actual workout. Like a set or two of bench flies/dumbbell presses, set or two of chinups/pullups with 8 - 12 reps, set or two of pushups from 10 - 30, at least 100 situps, sometimes with 20 - 40lbs weights, set or two of curls, etc. Sometimes I don't do that all at once though, sometimes I spread that throughout the day and I'll do it on top of an actual workout as well as long as I don't feel like I'm straining my muscles too much. And that's a fairly decent amount of shit to do, but the past week or so I've been doing much less than I normally would because of how completely tired I am from other stuff (not my workouts), and because I started getting migraines after doing cardio occasionally. Basically really fucking sucks, but I still haven't even completely stopped exercising and I've lost a noticeable (at least to me) amount of muscle from my biceps. So yea, if you start, really try not to stop even for a short time, keep working out at a consistent rate. And if you don't start, then fuck you start.

Also if you're trying to lose some weight as well really try not to focus too much on dieting. You can focus on healthy eating obviously, and well should actually, but if you're eating fewer calories than you should be to maintain your weight level then be extremely careful. If you're not eating enough working out is a lot harder and a lot more dangerous. Way more likely to pull a muscle or at least strain them too hard as you'll have a lot less energy and will probably be a bit more reckless. Plus it's simply not effective, you need fat and carbs to build muscle so more or less eliminating that is a bad idea for the weight loss and the muscle gain.

Some pretty good tips.

I'm just mostly trying to gain muscle/meat and be healthier.  I don't need to lose any weight at all(opposite really lol.)

I drink the protein drink crap after working out, for building.. whatever it does lol. Been eating a lot more meat too.  I had how slow the process is though, just seeing some results would be nice. :p
Title: Re: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: Sabb on January 10, 2013, 04:18:36 PM
Yea, I've been doing it like 3 times a week and crap at home. I usually am sore as hell the next day lol.  Thinking about getting a gym membership, but they are so pricey...

Some pretty good tips.

I'm just mostly trying to gain muscle/meat and be healthier.  I don't need to lose any weight at all(opposite really lol.)

I drink the protein drink crap after working out, for building.. whatever it does lol. Been eating a lot more meat too.  I had how slow the process is though, just seeing some results would be nice. :p
Yea from what I heard some of the protein drinks really help some people. I haven't used any of that stuff though. Been considering getting a creatine supplement though, but it's pricey and I haven't looked enough into it yet and not totally sure if I want some aid like that. If you don't know what creatine is you might want to look into it yourself. Supposed to be some anabolic thing you take to allow muscle to store more of your energy I believe or something like that. And yea I know a lot of body building supplements don't work but it seems creatine might. It's not like you're supposed to just take it and sit on your ass though. It's only supposed to enhance the gains from your workout, nothing else. Wouldn't take my word for it though because I haven't used it and haven't really researched much on it but if it's something you may be interested in then I think it's worth looking into a bit.

Also, if you're just trying to gain weight with muscle be careful. Sometimes you might be really motivated and w.e and really want to improve so you'll push yourself really hard but don't be stupid about it. If you're feeling like your muscles are sort of being stretched unnaturally or something while you're lifting then it's probably a good idea to stop or check your form, and obviously if you're doing something like bench pressing make sure you've got a spotter. It's not worth risking damaging your body or muscles. Especially with shoulder shit. Just pay close attention to your form on w.e you're doing and make sure none of your joints are going to snap or some shit cause you're doing something stupid. And if you're unsure if you're doing something right make sure to figure it out. Look it up or ask someone.

Oh and since you're doing it 3 times a week, try to keep it around there. Working out every day probably wouldn't be a good thing. Can be fairly easy to push yourself too much and then your muscle will take a really long time to recover. And try to make sure you're not just focusing on one muscle group too much, try focusing on a different one each day if possible.
Title: Re: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: ๖Ϝцzsioᴎ on January 10, 2013, 05:06:47 PM
>this whole thread
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
But in all seriousness, I can't even lift 30 pounds ;~;
I seriously need to exercise, or even run a few laps around my yard for fucks sakes.
Title: Re: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: Jhon on January 10, 2013, 11:16:08 PM
I lift.
Protein supplements are just there to help you acheive the amount of protein you need to consume for a day, it's just like eating meat or cheese, nothing special in there.
If you want to gain muscle and weight you need to eat about 700-1,000 calories more than you burn, but you'll also gain fat (naturally). You calculate the amount of calories you need based on your RMR, google it =P
You also need to consume about 1.5-2.0X your weight protein in miligrams, don't remember the amount of carbohydrate though.
Your diet is important just like going to gym. If you won't eat enough, you'll barely see results.

Another important thing is to make sure you do everything properly and with the right technique. It's better to lower the weight and do the lifting properly, than raising it and doing it bad. You'll just end up injuring yourself.
A bit more info that might help you - To gain muscles you need to do 6-12 repititions, while 8 is the most recommended - To gain power (be stronger) you need to do 1-6 reps, while 5 is the most recommended - To gain endurance you need to do 12+ reps (which might help you in martial arts, but it's basically a waste of time to lift that much).

I'm currently doing a 5X5 program (basically a powerlifting program), which works on power, since I want to first be able to lift above 100KG in certain lifts and then I will probably go back to a bodybuilding program.
Title: Re: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: TehHank on January 11, 2013, 12:36:31 AM
Due to my high metabolism, I don't grow fat. :/
Title: Re: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: Jhon on January 11, 2013, 03:36:52 AM
Due to my high metabolism, I don't grow fat. :/

Just so you know, there's no such thing.  You simply don't eat enough, you might think you do, but you don't =P

At the beginning it's hard to eat 1,000 calories more than you burn, but when the weight you lift increases and the more you get used to eating so much, you'll be able to do it with no problems. I'm sure you'll gain weight if you do that.
I also have high metabolism and I used to weigh 48 KG at 1.75 meters, but after 2 months of exercising and eating properly I went up to 55KG and after another 2 months or so up to 57 KG. I didn't really get the chance to exercise lately so I'm down to 56 KG now. Before that I was exercising for about a year, I wasn't persistent and even when I was I wasn't eating enough so my weight barely increased.
Title: Re: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: Prox on January 11, 2013, 05:41:39 AM
Before you start you need to know your goals, then make sure to do some research on the internet, then, depending on what equipment you have, make yourself some sort of exercise program or you can even look up for one somewhere on the internet. And always learn the exercise with lower weights before you start using bigger ones. You also need to eat quite a lot, but not just anything, there are certain diets and supplements but instead of wasting money on that I just add food that has vitamins, proteins and other good stuff to my normal every day food.
Title: Re: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: Sabb on January 11, 2013, 09:16:39 AM
Just so you know, there's no such thing.  You simply don't eat enough, you might think you do, but you don't =P

At the beginning it's hard to eat 1,000 calories more than you burn, but when the weight you lift increases and the more you get used to eating so much, you'll be able to do it with no problems. I'm sure you'll gain weight if you do that.
I also have high metabolism and I used to weigh 48 KG at 1.75 meters, but after 2 months of exercising and eating properly I went up to 55KG and after another 2 months or so up to 57 KG. I didn't really get the chance to exercise lately so I'm down to 56 KG now. Before that I was exercising for about a year, I wasn't persistent and even when I was I wasn't eating enough so my weight barely increased.
I don't believe that whole calorie thing is really true. If you're eating more than you're burning then you're basically just growing bulks of fat, not muscle. Your muscles need a lot of protein to develop though, and fat, but it burns the fat. So saying "you should eat 1k calories more than you burn" isn't true. You'll just need a lot more calories depending on your lean muscle mass. And your metabolism significantly increases from working out naturally because it needs the protein, vitamins, carbs fat, all that shit to repair and maintain muscle. But yea, if you're actually eating 1000 more calories than you're burning, then you're just building up fat. Keep in mind that your body burns energy while recovering from workouts as well so it might seem like you're eating more calories than is being burned, but actually your body is probably just requiring more energy after workouts in order for it to recover. So yea, might not be that many more calories than you're burning but you will probably be eating a lot more calories than before. Unfortunately I'm not doing this yet though because I want to get more lean first so I'm usually eating less than 1000 calories a day and still trying to work out. Definitely makes it more challenging but I'll be able to eat more and workout more once I've lost a bit more.

But yea for Hideo I'm assuming you're eating like 1000 - 1500 calories a day unless your metabolism is really high. You're going to want to bump that up to at least 2000 probably 2500 especially on workout days. Once you're gaining a lot of muscle you'll notice how significantly your metabolism will grow however, cause you'll really NEED to eat more. It's definitely a noticeable change, or at least for me.
Title: Re: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: Travelsonic on January 11, 2013, 10:51:50 AM
All my strength is lower body - walk a lot [many miles per week, >12 easily], play music games like DDR, ITG/ITG2, Pump it Up on the hardest difficulty for hours on end every week, ride my bike a lot when it isn't the dead of winter, and for a while took up kickboxing - my legs can consistently press > 200lbs.

It's finding time to work on the upper body that seems damn near impossible for me.   >:(
Title: Re: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: Jhon on January 11, 2013, 04:03:24 PM
I don't believe that whole calorie thing is really true. If you're eating more than you're burning then you're basically just growing bulks of fat, not muscle. Your muscles need a lot of protein to develop though, and fat, but it burns the fat. So saying "you should eat 1k calories more than you burn" isn't true. You'll just need a lot more calories depending on your lean muscle mass. And your metabolism significantly increases from working out naturally because it needs the protein, vitamins, carbs fat, all that shit to repair and maintain muscle. But yea, if you're actually eating 1000 more calories than you're burning, then you're just building up fat. Keep in mind that your body burns energy while recovering from workouts as well so it might seem like you're eating more calories than is being burned, but actually your body is probably just requiring more energy after workouts in order for it to recover. So yea, might not be that many more calories than you're burning but you will probably be eating a lot more calories than before. Unfortunately I'm not doing this yet though because I want to get more lean first so I'm usually eating less than 1000 calories a day and still trying to work out. Definitely makes it more challenging but I'll be able to eat more and workout more once I've lost a bit more.

But yea for Hideo I'm assuming you're eating like 1000 - 1500 calories a day unless your metabolism is really high. You're going to want to bump that up to at least 2000 probably 2500 especially on workout days. Once you're gaining a lot of muscle you'll notice how significantly your metabolism will grow however, cause you'll really NEED to eat more. It's definitely a noticeable change, or at least for me.

I don't just "believe", if you want to maximize your workout's efficiency on your muscles growth you'll have to eat more than you need even if it means fattening up a lil bit. That's why bodybuilders usually do it in cycles, one cycle they gain weight, fat and muscles, the other they lose weight and fat.
I've just seen so many results of people who did follow this and not "bro-science" + seen it on my body. It's true that you can maintain low body fat if you consume about 100-200 calories more than your RMR while the biggest meal is after the exercise, but is a bet and you won't maximize the efficiency of your workout that way. It's simply easier to just do it in cycles.

Btw, I burn about 2,500 calories at workout days, which means I need to consume about 3,200-3,500 calories. I do it "clean" by eating only healthy stuff and so I gain less than people who do it "dirty" and eat pizzas all day.
Title: Re: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: HideoKojima on January 14, 2013, 10:44:30 AM
I didn't* work out for like 3 or 4 days. I felt guilty... but did yesterday. so I feels better. :3


Due to my high metabolism, I don't grow fat. :/

Samez. Shit sucks lol.  But just cause a person isn't fat doesn't mean they are healthy.

( However all I (use) to eat is complete junk food, pizza and other unhealthy shit and my doctors said I'm completely fine in health weirdly. )

Just so you know, there's no such thing.  You simply don't eat enough, you might think you do, but you don't =P

At the beginning it's hard to eat 1,000 calories more than you burn, but when the weight you lift increases and the more you get used to eating so much, you'll be able to do it with no problems. I'm sure you'll gain weight if you do that.
I also have high metabolism and I used to weigh 48 KG at 1.75 meters, but after 2 months of exercising and eating properly I went up to 55KG and after another 2 months or so up to 57 KG. I didn't really get the chance to exercise lately so I'm down to 56 KG now. Before that I was exercising for about a year, I wasn't persistent and even when I was I wasn't eating enough so my weight barely increased.

Every since I actually starting being active I've been hungry as fuck 24/7 lol

Title: Re: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: Jhon on January 14, 2013, 10:49:43 AM
I did work out for like 3 or 4 days. I felt guilty... but did yesterday. so I feels better. :3


Samez. Shit sucks lol.  But just cause a person isn't fat doesn't mean they are healthy.

( However all I (use) to eat is complete junk food, pizza and other unhealthy shit and my doctors said I'm completely fine in health weirdly. )

Every since I actually starting being active I've been hungry as fuck 24/7 lol

Yeah, that's what I like about exercising ;P  Take the chance to eat tons of tasty food while you can xD
After you finish building up muscle mass, you'll need to watch your diet more to lose the fat and it's hard when you're fucking hungry because of exercises.
Title: Re: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: pyrosheep on January 14, 2013, 12:17:54 PM
yeah once I tried lifting a really heavy weight and it fucked up my back.
Title: Re: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: Cariad† on January 15, 2013, 12:49:34 PM
Yes I actually HAVE to for survival training in school. Each day c:
Title: Re: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: HideoKojima on February 22, 2013, 02:57:10 AM
Small update.

Have gained 7 pounds since the creation of this thread. :3

Feelz good.
Title: Re: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: Deacon on February 22, 2013, 06:57:42 AM
Small update.

Have gained 7 pounds since the creation of this thread. :3

Feelz good.

Me too.

...i dont work out.
Title: Re: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: Tiger Guy on February 22, 2013, 07:40:01 AM
Me too.

...i dont work out.
The muscles come naturally.
Title: Re: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: HideoKojima on February 22, 2013, 10:27:49 AM
Me too.

...i dont work out.

Tis a good thing for me since I've been the same weight for the longest time. ;_;


Title: Re: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: Sabb on February 22, 2013, 03:01:37 PM
Small update.

Have gained 7 pounds since the creation of this thread. :3

Feelz good.
Congrats man. I've also lost about 10 pounds since then. In muscle and fat though... though more so the latter which I'm okay with. Haven't had a really good workout in the last like 3 weeks though due to some shit. Aside from maybe a day here or there. Really need to get back into the habit...
Title: Re: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: Astropilot on February 22, 2013, 04:58:23 PM
Lift a file cabinet today...
Title: Re: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: HideoKojima on February 22, 2013, 06:40:56 PM
Congrats man. I've also lost about 10 pounds since then. In muscle and fat though... though more so the latter which I'm okay with. Haven't had a really good workout in the last like 3 weeks though due to some shit. Aside from maybe a day here or there. Really need to get back into the habit...

I hate actually going to do it, but I like when I'm actually doing it. Feels good. Hurts the next day, but not enough hurt, need to hurt more!

Lift a file cabinet today...

wut? :o
Title: Re: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: Sabb on February 22, 2013, 09:37:38 PM
I hate actually going to do it, but I like when I'm actually doing it. Feels good. Hurts the next day, but not enough hurt, need to hurt more!

wut? :o
Nice. Would have to agree. It only hurt for me for like the very first workout in each muscle group though and wasn't ever really too bad aside from when I did a leg workout. The next day after that walking up and down stairs at the school and in my house was a total bitch... I bet if I start working out again now I'll probably be a bit sore again though.
Title: Re: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: Cheesicle on February 23, 2013, 07:25:01 AM
Yea, I've been doing it like 3 times a week and crap at home.

Most people follow a workout routine. For me, it's:

DAY 1:
Chest/Triceps
DAY 2:
Back/Biceps
DAY 3:
Shoulders/Legs (Throw in abs if you want)
DAY 4:
Rest

If I follow this routine everyday, (which I do) that means I workout 6 days a week.
If you're starting to workout, don't quit. ABSOLUTELY NOT. Beginners usually develop what veterans call "noob gains". That is, the period in which the individual starts working out and sees rapid muscle growth.

I started working out 4 months ago. I started at a 30 pound dumbbell chest press at each hand. Now I'm plateauing at 60 pounds per hand. Within 4 months, I doubled my lifts in almost all my muscles.

So yes, like the first responder said, DEDICATION. When I first started, working out felt like a chore. I would think "Oh fuck, it's time to go to the gym now :(" But now, I fucking LOVE working. I actually quit gaming because I love working out so much. I get pumped everytime I hit the gym. Eventually, if you stick to the gym and you see your gains, you will fucking LOVE working out.

I won't lie, I'm a fat fuck. I'm not really trying to lose fat, just trying to build muscle. But you have to have at least some mental control. I limit my carbohydrate and junk food intake as much as I can. Usually I limit carbs to lunch only, and consume mostly protein filled foods for breakfast and dinner. And even when I consume carbs, I try to ignore the "shit carbs" (white bread, rice, etc), and stick to "clean carbs" (whole wheat, brown rice, etc).

If you really want to pursue this, then a gym membership is definitely the place to start. You're not really going to get far with the few petty things you have at home.

ANOTHER TIP:
If you currently don't lift much, don't be discouraged when you go to the gym and you see HUMUNGOUS fucks in the gym bench pressing 150 pounds. I felt that when I started. I was discouraged and I didn't want to workout. But my friends encouraged me, and I gradually began to ignore the other huge people in the gym. They actually don't care about how much you lift as much as you think they do.

Here are some general noob rules of working out:
If you can do 12 reps with ease, you're not lifting heavy enough
Exhale on Effort. (For instance, if you're chest pressing, exhale when you push the weights, inhale when you bring them down.)
Don't worry if you don't feel the muscle being worked. Eventually you will.
FIND A WORKOUT BUDDY! Seriously. This is flipping important. Workout buddies encourage you, AND help you spot when you can't get the weight up. SO MANY PEOPLE lift waaaaaaayyyy too light because they don't have a spot there to help them.

TL;DR:
1. Build a routine
2. Dedication
3. Mental strength
4. DGAF about what other people think.
5. Get a workout buddy! *SUPER IMPORTANT*
Title: Re: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: HideoKojima on February 23, 2013, 11:54:08 AM
Nice. Would have to agree. It only hurt for me for like the very first workout in each muscle group though and wasn't ever really too bad aside from when I did a leg workout. The next day after that walking up and down stairs at the school and in my house was a total bitch... I bet if I start working out again now I'll probably be a bit sore again though.

Surprising it hasn't been that bad for pain. I remember in High School the next day from an actual day of PE I'd feel like I was hit by a truck, but my pains only been a 6 or 7 out of 10. And I think I've been pushing pretty hard.

Most people follow a workout routine. For me, it's:

DAY 1:
Chest/Triceps
DAY 2:
Back/Biceps
DAY 3:
Shoulders/Legs (Throw in abs if you want)
DAY 4:
Rest

If I follow this routine everyday, (which I do) that means I workout 6 days a week.
If you're starting to workout, don't quit. ABSOLUTELY NOT. Beginners usually develop what veterans call "noob gains". That is, the period in which the individual starts working out and sees rapid muscle growth.

I started working out 4 months ago. I started at a 30 pound dumbbell chest press at each hand. Now I'm plateauing at 60 pounds per hand. Within 4 months, I doubled my lifts in almost all my muscles.

So yes, like the first responder said, DEDICATION. When I first started, working out felt like a chore. I would think "Oh fuck, it's time to go to the gym now :(" But now, I fucking LOVE working. I actually quit gaming because I love working out so much. I get pumped everytime I hit the gym. Eventually, if you stick to the gym and you see your gains, you will fucking LOVE working out.

I won't lie, I'm a fat fuck. I'm not really trying to lose fat, just trying to build muscle. But you have to have at least some mental control. I limit my carbohydrate and junk food intake as much as I can. Usually I limit carbs to lunch only, and consume mostly protein filled foods for breakfast and dinner. And even when I consume carbs, I try to ignore the "shit carbs" (white bread, rice, etc), and stick to "clean carbs" (whole wheat, brown rice, etc).

If you really want to pursue this, then a gym membership is definitely the place to start. You're not really going to get far with the few petty things you have at home.

ANOTHER TIP:
If you currently don't lift much, don't be discouraged when you go to the gym and you see HUMUNGOUS fucks in the gym bench pressing 150 pounds. I felt that when I started. I was discouraged and I didn't want to workout. But my friends encouraged me, and I gradually began to ignore the other huge people in the gym. They actually don't care about how much you lift as much as you think they do.

Here are some general noob rules of working out:
If you can do 12 reps with ease, you're not lifting heavy enough
Exhale on Effort. (For instance, if you're chest pressing, exhale when you push the weights, inhale when you bring them down.)
Don't worry if you don't feel the muscle being worked. Eventually you will.
FIND A WORKOUT BUDDY! Seriously. This is flipping important. Workout buddies encourage you, AND help you spot when you can't get the weight up. SO MANY PEOPLE lift waaaaaaayyyy too light because they don't have a spot there to help them.

TL;DR:
1. Build a routine
2. Dedication
3. Mental strength
4. DGAF about what other people think.
5. Get a workout buddy! *SUPER IMPORTANT*

"Oh fuck, it's time to go to the gym now :(" That's me right now lol. I hate going to actually do it, but do have a better time when actually in the motion.

"
DAY 1:
Chest/Triceps
DAY 2:
Back/Biceps
DAY 3:
Shoulders/Legs (Throw in abs if you want)
DAY 4:
Rest
"

Isn't the most common workout  Day 1 upper body, day 2 lower body, and than it just repeats itself?


"If you really want to pursue this, then a gym membership is definitely the place to start. You're not really going to get far with the few petty things you have at home."
Yea, I currently have access to some weight machines, but I want to get a gym membership. 
Though GYM memberships are pricey as fuck so I hear.
Title: Re: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: Cheesicle on February 23, 2013, 07:44:32 PM


That's me right now lol. I hate going to actually do it, but do have a better time when actually in the motion.

Isn't the most common workout  Day 1 upper body, day 2 lower body, and than it just repeats itself?

Yea, I currently have access to some weight machines, but I want to get a gym membership. 
Though GYM memberships are pricey as fuck so I hear.

1. Yeah, most people start off thinking working out is a chore. You really need some sort of motivation in order to get started. After you start seeing gains, working  out will seems actually pretty fun. When I started I thought of it like a game. Every time a upgraded to a heavier weight, I would "level up".
Here are some SUPER MOTIVATIONAL videos for you:
How Bad Do You Want It? (Success) HD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsSC2vx7zFQ#ws)
MOTIVATION - PAIN IS TEMPORARY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L1stBkpWBc#ws)

2. Most people do specific muscles to concentrate on. Upper body consists of chest, triceps, abs, shoulders, back, and biceps. That is WAAAAAYYYYYYY too much to focus on in one day. Lower body only consists of legs. It's really unbalanced. That's why people split them up.

3. Yes. Sadly, gym memberships are fuckin' expensive. That's why you shouldn't get a membership unless you're ABSOLUTELY sure you want to start working out consistently. Otherwise, you'd be wasting your money.
Title: Re: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: HideoKojima on February 25, 2013, 06:23:59 PM
>Doing jog
>group of girls say hi to me
>say hi back
>they trying to talk to me
>don't have time for bitches (Plus they were in like High School.)
>Keep jogging
>They get mad
Aw yea, Alpha(asshole.) as fuck!

Also worked out so hard my headache went away.

1. Yeah, most people start off thinking working out is a chore. You really need some sort of motivation in order to get started. After you start seeing gains, working  out will seems actually pretty fun. When I started I thought of it like a game. Every time a upgraded to a heavier weight, I would "level up".
Here are some SUPER MOTIVATIONAL videos for you:
How Bad Do You Want It? (Success) HD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsSC2vx7zFQ#ws)
MOTIVATION - PAIN IS TEMPORARY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L1stBkpWBc#ws)

2. Most people do specific muscles to concentrate on. Upper body consists of chest, triceps, abs, shoulders, back, and biceps. That is WAAAAAYYYYYYY too much to focus on in one day. Lower body only consists of legs. It's really unbalanced. That's why people split them up.

3. Yes. Sadly, gym memberships are fuckin' expensive. That's why you shouldn't get a membership unless you're ABSOLUTELY sure you want to start working out consistently. Otherwise, you'd be wasting your money.

1) Yea, going to do it/getting ready to do it is still a bitch, but I start loving it when I do it. Still a chore to me atm, but starting to really enjoy it. Life just feels like it got a lot better when I started working out. (Hurrah brain chemicals or whatever.)

2) Hm, well I don't know what works on what muscles lol. Don't even know the name for half of the stuff I am doing. lol

3)  I think I will in the future. When I really want to expand. (And when I have a job.) But I should probably get more use to it before I start spending money. Though I'm thinking about wearing a weight vest(for just when I go to school and just walk around and shit.)
Title: Re: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: ursus on February 25, 2013, 06:42:50 PM
how ripped you get depends on how bad you want it

if you aren't motivated then good luck doing anything ever
Title: Re: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: Viole on February 25, 2013, 07:37:18 PM
I lift so much that I can lift up a small chair with ease.
Title: Re: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: whagman on February 25, 2013, 07:52:54 PM
preworkoutssssssssssssssssssss

I swim 5 days a week 1 and a half hours a day, run 5 days a week 45 minutes a day, and go to the gym 3 days a week to doerrythang
Title: Re: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: Cheesicle on February 27, 2013, 05:04:16 PM
2) Hm, well I don't know what works on what muscles lol. Don't even know the name for half of the stuff I am doing. lol

I'll give you my workout schedule and you can look up the exercises on Google if you want :)

Chest/Triceps:
CHEST
- Chest Press
- Incline Chest Press
- Dumbbell Chest Fly
TRICEPS
- Skull Crushers
- Triceps Extension
- Dips

Back/Biceps
BACK
- Lat Pulldown
- Row
- One Handed Dumbbell Row
- Dead Lift
BICEPS
-Bicep Curls

Shoulder/Legs
SHOULDERS (Seems like a lot, but the Flys are basically the same exercise, just different directions.)
- Shoulder Press
- Front Shoulder Flys
- Side Shoulder Flys
- Rear Shoulder Flys
- Shrugs
LEGS
- Squats
- Hack Squats
- Leg Curls
- Leg Extensions (I don't really do leg curls or extensions, you can do it if you want)
- Calf Raises
Title: Re: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: saivon on February 27, 2013, 07:21:01 PM
Well I don't lift because the fucking bar at my gym is like almost two times my own weight and there are like 20-30 year olds bench pressing there all the time so yeah

But for workouts I just do five rounds of jump rope which is around about 40 mins non stop pretty easy

sit ups

We have a 15 pound ball to and I usually get a partner so when I go up doing a sit up he/she would throw it at me I would cactch it and the momentum of the ball would push me back I would stop my self and do it again. (sorry for long description don't know what to call it)

I spar to with people around my age like 16-19 I won't spar with the older people because they would crush me

I work mitts, hit the baggy etc. mountain climbers are good to. sorry if I somehow derailed this thread I just saw other people talking about workouts so I thought I could join to :/

I am thinking of doing mixed martial arts next year but I just find that having another person on top of you is pretty scary
Title: Re: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: Prox on April 30, 2013, 10:29:15 AM
Time to bump this.
Gonna post my workout program. I want to hear what you guys think about it and what improvements you could suggest to me.

Monday(Back, triceps)
1. Deadlift 4x10
2. Bent-Over Barbell Row 3x10
3. One-Arm Dumbbell Row 3x10
4. Close-Grip Bench Press 4x10
5. Tricep Kickback 3x10

Tuesday(Shoulders, ABs)
1. Military Press 4x10
2. Front Raise 3x10
3. Lateral Raise 3x9
4. Barbell Shoulder Shrug 4x10
5. Situps 4x50(too lazy to do more)

Wednesday - Freeday

Thursday(Chest, biceps)
1. Bench press 5x5
2. Incline Bench Press 4x10
3. Chest Fly 4x12
4. Barbell Curl 4x10
5. Concentration Curl 4x10

Friday(Legs, calves, forearms, ABs)
1. Back Squat 4x10
2. Leg Extension 4x20
3. Leg Curl 4x20
4. Seated Calf Raise 4x20
5. Forearm Barbell Curl 3x10
6. Forearm Barbell Extension 3x10
7. Situps 4x50

Saturday - Freeday

Sunday - Freeday
Title: Re: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: Sabb on April 30, 2013, 11:07:34 AM
Time to bump this.
Gonna post my workout program. I want to hear what you guys think about it and what improvements you could suggest to me.

Monday(Back, triceps)
1. Deadlift 4x10
2. Bent-Over Barbell Row 3x10
3. One-Arm Dumbbell Row 3x10
4. Close-Grip Bench Press 4x10
5. Tricep Kickback 3x10

Tuesday(Shoulders, ABs)
1. Military Press 4x10
2. Front Raise 3x10
3. Lateral Raise 3x9
4. Barbell Shoulder Shrug 4x10
5. Situps 4x50(too lazy to do more)

Wednesday - Freeday

Thursday(Chest, biceps)
1. Bench press 5x5
2. Incline Bench Press 4x10
3. Chest Fly 4x12
4. Barbell Curl 4x10
5. Concentration Curl 4x10

Friday(Legs, calves, forearms, ABs)
1. Back Squat 4x10
2. Leg Extension 4x20
3. Leg Curl 4x20
4. Seated Calf Raise 4x20
5. Forearm Barbell Curl 3x10
6. Forearm Barbell Extension 3x10
7. Situps 4x50

Saturday - Freeday

Sunday - Freeday
Those are like all sets of 10 so I'm assuming you're working more on endurance than bulky muscle development? If so, and actually probably even if you're not, it might be a good idea to mix in some strong cardio to at least one of the days. Big muscles are nice and all but some form of cardio is quite necessary as well.
And I'm assuming you mix the sets up, not like 10 deadlifts 40 times in a row. If so that looks pretty good to me but unfortunately I don't have access to that kind of equipment atm so I haven't gotten to mess with some of those types of weight lifting in a while so can't say much more.
Title: Re: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: Jhon on April 30, 2013, 12:05:53 PM
Time to bump this.
Gonna post my workout program. I want to hear what you guys think about it and what improvements you could suggest to me.

Monday(Back, triceps)
1. Deadlift 4x10
2. Bent-Over Barbell Row 3x10
3. One-Arm Dumbbell Row 3x10
4. Close-Grip Bench Press 4x10
5. Tricep Kickback 3x10

Tuesday(Shoulders, ABs)
1. Military Press 4x10
2. Front Raise 3x10
3. Lateral Raise 3x9
4. Barbell Shoulder Shrug 4x10
5. Situps 4x50(too lazy to do more)

Wednesday - Freeday

Thursday(Chest, biceps)
1. Bench press 5x5
2. Incline Bench Press 4x10
3. Chest Fly 4x12
4. Barbell Curl 4x10
5. Concentration Curl 4x10

Friday(Legs, calves, forearms, ABs)
1. Back Squat 4x10
2. Leg Extension 4x20
3. Leg Curl 4x20
4. Seated Calf Raise 4x20
5. Forearm Barbell Curl 3x10
6. Forearm Barbell Extension 3x10
7. Situps 4x50

Saturday - Freeday

Sunday - Freeday

I don't quite understand why are you doing 4X10? What are you working on? Muscle mass/power/endurance?

I think you're doing slightly too many exercises, but I don't really remember how much is too much so I might be wrong.

The 5X5 bench press looks misplaced, 5X5 is for power, not mass or endurance.

4X10 for deadlift is too much imo, deadlift works on nearly all of your muscles. I suggest you either do 2X6 with warm up sets before / 3X6.
Title: Re: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: Prox on April 30, 2013, 12:21:33 PM
Those are like all sets of 10 so I'm assuming you're working more on endurance than bulky muscle development? If so, and actually probably even if you're not, it might be a good idea to mix in some strong cardio to at least one of the days. Big muscles are nice and all but some form of cardio is quite necessary as well.
And I'm assuming you mix the sets up, not like 10 deadlifts 40 times in a row. If so that looks pretty good to me but unfortunately I don't have access to that kind of equipment atm so I haven't gotten to mess with some of those types of weight lifting in a while so can't say much more.
I do some cardio stuff in school and since it's almost summer now, I'll be cycling, jogging and swimming from time to time. I don't do too much cardio because I don't want to lose weight.
   As for the things I'm working, I suppose I have some exercises for strength, a bit more for endurance and majority for size. 4x10 means 4 sets of 10 reps.
Also I found this board in multiple websites when I was looking for workout programs/exercises:
 
Goal                                   Reps        Sets
Strength                               1-6          3-4
Power                                   6-8          2-3
Endurance                            15+         2-3
Muscle size (hypertrophy)  6-12          4-5




I don't quite understand why are you doing 4X10? What are you working on? Muscle mass/power/endurance?
4x10s are mostly for muscle mass.

The 5X5 bench press looks misplaced, 5X5 is for power, not mass or endurance.
It is not misplaced. I do 5x5s for muscle strength and I can already confirm that it's effective.

4X10 for deadlift is too much imo, deadlift works on nearly all of your muscles. I suggest you either do 2X6 with warm up sets before / 3X6.
I suppose I could lower it to 3x8-10 but making it 3x6 with 63.5kg(the biggest weight I can put on barbell) probably won't be enough for me.
Title: Re: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: HideoKojima on April 30, 2013, 12:50:29 PM
I do some cardio stuff in school and since it's almost summer now, I'll be cycling, jogging and swimming from time to time. I don't do too much cardio because I don't want to lose weight.
   As for the things I'm working, I suppose I have some exercises for strength, a bit more for endurance and majority for size. 4x10 means 4 sets of 10 reps.
Also I found this board in multiple websites when I was looking for workout programs/exercises:
 


"I don't do too much cardio because I don't want to lose weight."

Isn't it good to do a good amount of it anyways?

Don't want to be all bulk on top and nothing on the bottom. :p
Title: Re: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: Alphaggot on April 30, 2013, 01:02:40 PM
Time to bump this.
twerk it


I suggest adding a routine run everyday before your workout. It's a great way to get loose and adds to your cardio workout, just run around .6 - 1 mile everyday.
Title: Re: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: Prox on April 30, 2013, 01:07:36 PM
Isn't it good to do a good amount of it anyways?

Don't want to be all bulk on top and nothing on the bottom. :p
Yes, cardio is good, but if comes at the expanse of me getting skinny then I do not think that it's good trade.
Cardio isn't the only way to train legs, there are leg exercises that are in fact more efficient then cardio when it comes to muscles. 

I suggest adding a routine run everyday before your workout. It's a great way to get loose and adds to your cardio workout, just run around .6 - 1 mile everyday.
I have other activities which involve cardio therefore I don't think that on top of everything I should add that on everyday, but I definitely going to be running at least 1 time a week.
Title: Re: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: Sabb on April 30, 2013, 01:18:39 PM
Yes, cardio is good, but if comes at the expanse of me getting skinny then I do not think that it's good trade.
Cardio isn't the only way to train legs, there are leg exercises that are in fact more efficient then cardio when it comes to muscles. 
I have other activities which involve cardio therefore I don't think that on top of everything I should add that on everyday, but I definitely going to be running at least 1 time a week.
You wouldn't get skinny necessarily though unless you're built of fat and not muscle. It's not like you're going to lose muscle by doing cardio, if anything you'll gain minor amounts depending on what you're doing. You also just end up looking more ripped rather than chunky, as in with lean muscle and I can confirm that. Imo I'd rather look that way. But yea if you're getting cardio outside of your workouts it might not be necessary, but I hope you at least warm up with something briefly before starting a workout. Always helps.
Title: Re: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: Jhon on May 01, 2013, 12:54:06 AM
I do some cardio stuff in school and since it's almost summer now, I'll be cycling, jogging and swimming from time to time. I don't do too much cardio because I don't want to lose weight.
   As for the things I'm working, I suppose I have some exercises for strength, a bit more for endurance and majority for size. 4x10 means 4 sets of 10 reps.
Also I found this board in multiple websites when I was looking for workout programs/exercises:
 
Goal                                   Reps        Sets
Strength                               1-6          3-4
Power                                   6-8          2-3
Endurance                            15+         2-3
Muscle size (hypertrophy)  6-12          4-5



4x10s are mostly for muscle mass.
It is not misplaced. I do 5x5s for muscle strength and I can already confirm that it's effective.
I suppose I could lower it to 3x8-10 but making it 3x6 with 63.5kg(the biggest weight I can put on barbell) probably won't be enough for me.

If you want muscle mass 3X8 would be the best way to do it.
5X5 is what I do and it's more for power than muscle mass, usually when you do 5X5 in one exercise you do it in all of them and usually it's in a program where you work only on the "big guns" (meaning you do only exercises like Deadlift, Squat, Bench Press, etc.).
And I still think 3X6 would be better since 3X8 would simply tire you too much, it will also be harder for you to raise the weight you lift later on. I for example do 2X5 heaviest weight with about 3 warmup sets before that. Deadlift is one of the few exercises that work on most of your muscles (I'm pretty sure it's the only one that works on so many muscles at once), so you "treat it" differently than other exercises.

You wouldn't get skinny necessarily though unless you're built of fat and not muscle. It's not like you're going to lose muscle by doing cardio, if anything you'll gain minor amounts depending on what you're doing. You also just end up looking more ripped rather than chunky, as in with lean muscle and I can confirm that. Imo I'd rather look that way. But yea if you're getting cardio outside of your workouts it might not be necessary, but I hope you at least warm up with something briefly before starting a workout. Always helps.

If he adds up cardio he'll have to cover up for that with more food. I usually do small amounts of cardio when doing mass and after that period, when I start working on losing the fat I gained from mass, I do more cardio since it's an easy and good way to burn up more calories.
Title: Re: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: ๖Ϝцzsioᴎ on May 28, 2013, 11:44:53 AM
I LIFT.











CHEESEBURGERS.
Title: Re: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: ursus on July 02, 2013, 05:47:37 PM
Do pull-ups until you can do 10 without stopping. Then 15, then 20. Then until you can do a single pull-up with one arm.

Not for any real reason, it's just fucking cool.
Title: Re: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: Jhon on July 03, 2013, 04:46:17 AM
Do pull-ups until you can do 10 without stopping. Then 15, then 20. Then until you can do a single pull-up with one arm.

Not for any real reason, it's just fucking cool.

You don't have to be able to do 20 pull-ups to be able to do one pull-up with one arm. I can do max 12 pull-ups if I try really hard, but I can do 2 pull-ups with one arm.

Doing a flag though, that's hard =P
Title: Re: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: Osme on July 03, 2013, 11:35:23 AM
Do pull-ups until you can do 10 without stopping. Then 15, then 20. Then until you can do a single pull-up with one arm.

Not for any real reason, it's just fucking cool.
I cant lift a box of potatoes with all my strength, and you want me to do that?
Though, to be fair, the boxes dont have bottoms.
Title: Re: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: ursus on July 03, 2013, 11:36:38 AM
I cant lift a box of potatoes with all my strength, and you want me to do that?
Though, to be fair, the boxes dont have bottoms.

>not being able to scratch your nose with your own biceps
Title: Re: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: Osme on July 03, 2013, 11:38:46 AM
>not being able to scratch your nose with your own biceps
>Not doing so with your heels.
Title: Re: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: Alphaggot on April 05, 2015, 08:20:29 PM
Just going to necro bump because lifting.

I've been going at it seriously for the past year and have basically did a complete 180 with my physical coniditon. I went from being 230 lbs - 28% body fat to 180 lbs - 15% body fat. My maxes on the big three are

So I'm wondering, does anybody still lift in rNd and if so, what are your regiments like / do you take supplements?
Title: Re: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: Monorail Cat on April 05, 2015, 10:08:23 PM
MRW necro Altered Beast - Rise From Your Grave (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfIMy-ebZRk#)
Title: Re: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: cogsandspigots on April 06, 2015, 12:37:46 AM
I just recently (circa February) started lifting. I go to my school's gym 3 times a week and do squats, bench, barbell rows, overhead press, deadlifts, dumbbell curls, and stationary bike (not all on the same day).

Do you guys have any advice? E.G. anything to add?

I'm not going to post maxes, because I'm quite frankly embarrassed by them.
Title: Re: Do you guys even lift?
Post by: Alphaggot on April 06, 2015, 08:37:40 AM
I just recently (circa February) started lifting. I go to my school's gym 3 times a week and do squats, bench, barbell rows, overhead press, deadlifts, dumbbell curls, and stationary bike (not all on the same day).

Do you guys have any advice? E.G. anything to add?

I'm not going to post maxes, because I'm quite frankly embarrassed by them.

Do you have any specific goals you want to aim for (Getting ripped, big, lean), or do you just want to get fit?

When I first started, I put my self in a strict regiment to do these specific exercises for these set days. For example, Monday would be biceps using these following workouts, etc. Over time, I learned that you really don't need this kind of strict regiment as long as you have basic framework and proper repetition. 

My basic week looks like


To add to this, I do core every other day which includes medicine ball sit-ups, hanged leg raises, burpees, etc.

The only reason I'm telling you my schedule is because it shows that you don't need a set schedule once you start getting into the hang of things. Advice I'd throw in is to just go the gym every day. Even the weekends. Just go. You don't even have to lift if you don't want to, but just go to the gym, read a magazine, watch the bigger people workout, just go. It helps to get into the habit of just going and will keep you motivated to keep going in the future and make it feel weird for you not to go.

You should check out all the exercises at http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/workout/exercise.html. (http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/workout/exercise.html.) You can just pick out the exercises that seem fun to you, learn the proper form from their videos. It's really a great tool that can help you learn more about proper lifting and expand the amount of things you do in the gym.