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Re: Hypothetical rNd nation.
« Reply #45 on: July 19, 2012, 11:11:49 AM »
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Re: Hypothetical rNd nation.
« Reply #46 on: July 19, 2012, 12:15:29 PM »
One problem that we might run into is the division of people.
I don't think Sanders and Rocket50 should be closer than 50 feet apart.
   Perhaps it would be a problem at first, but over time we would probably change because we would have to in order to maximize our chances of surviving.     
   
   Now seeing as everyone sees government as our top priority, I really don't think that it should matter at first, because if this would happen I really doubt that we would steal from each other since we somewhat know each other and we all would need all the help we could possibly get to gather supplies, make tools and build our homes.   
   


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Re: Hypothetical rNd nation.
« Reply #47 on: July 19, 2012, 02:38:21 PM »
Our first priority should be to gather our bearings and figure out what kind of an environment we're in. Along with that, we would need to look at what sort of life the island holds, including animals and plants. While we're trying to distinguish edible plants from poisonous plants, easy game from dangerous animals, we would need to get a stable water and food supply going. Since we're on an island, the only real problem is figuring out how to purify the ocean water and remove all the salt.

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Re: Hypothetical rNd nation.
« Reply #48 on: July 19, 2012, 02:51:36 PM »
Our first priority should be to gather our bearings and figure out what kind of an environment we're in. Along with that, we would need to look at what sort of life the island holds, including animals and plants. While we're trying to distinguish edible plants from poisonous plants, easy game from dangerous animals, we would need to get a stable water and food supply going. Since we're on an island, the only real problem is figuring out how to purify the ocean water and remove all the salt.

If we're lucky enough we can find a fresh water lake or some sources of underground water.

       
                                                

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Re: Hypothetical rNd nation.
« Reply #49 on: July 19, 2012, 05:00:01 PM »
Implying there isn't a mountain, which has a frozen peak, that melts and descends into a river of pure water.

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Re: Hypothetical rNd nation.
« Reply #50 on: July 19, 2012, 05:21:21 PM »
Implying there isn't a mountain, which has a frozen peak, that melts and descends into a river of pure water.

Even if there is, we wouldn't want to be drinking it from the river, at least, not from the bottom of the river. It'd be safer if he made trips to the top to get the water.

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Re: Hypothetical rNd nation.
« Reply #51 on: July 19, 2012, 05:40:11 PM »
I could see the problem with population. Birth rates would be extremely low, and very slow, but with the amount of girls there are there shouldn't be a need for incest. If it was just one girl, then yeah, I could see the issue.

      Also agriculture and livestock is a very important thing as well, and even if they are there(animals that is), is there a high enough supply of them to last as the population increases? If not then we'd probably resort to eating a lot of farm produce (depending on the fertility of the ground), fruits from the native trees and/or fish. The lack of certain animals would also mean there would be a lack of certain materials to make certain things. Like for example, I really doubt there will be a dairy cow/pig on a random tropical (Then again, I am not exactly positive of the climate of this island), but since this states all resources are there, lets just say there is not a high percentage of them. If they run out, that takes away meat, leather, milk, etc.
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     I honesty don't think we could last too many years with out some sort of importing and exporting, unless we want to risk endangering the species living on the island. There is not a definite size of the island, and what other resources there could be that could help avoid this from happening, so we might be alright. There would need to be some heavy exploration, that's for sure, because even if we have all necessary resources now, that doesn't mean they will be there forever.
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Re: Hypothetical rNd nation.
« Reply #52 on: July 19, 2012, 05:44:51 PM »
I could see the problem with population. Birth rates would be extremely low, and very slow, but with the amount of girls there are there shouldn't be a need for incest. If it was just one girl, then yeah, I could see the issue.

      Also agriculture and livestock is a very important thing as well, and even if they are there(animals that is), is there a high enough supply of them to last as the population increases? If not then we'd probably resort to eating a lot of farm produce (depending on the fertility of the ground), fruits from the native trees and/or fish. The lack of certain animals would also mean there would be a lack of certain materials to make certain things. Like for example, I really doubt there will be a dairy cow/pig on a random tropical (Then again, I am not exactly positive of the climate of this island), but since this states all resources are there, lets just say there is not a high percentage of them. If they run out, that takes away meat, leather, milk, etc.
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     I honesty don't think we could last too many years with out some sort of importing and exporting, unless we want to risk endangering the species living on the island. There is not a definite size of the island, and what other resources there could be that could help avoid this from happening, so we might be alright. There would need to be some heavy exploration, that's for sure, because even if we have all necessary resources now, that doesn't mean they will be there forever.
We could live from vegetables. It's not impossible.

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Re: Hypothetical rNd nation.
« Reply #53 on: July 19, 2012, 05:51:54 PM »
We could live from vegetables. It's not impossible.
   
   Yes it is not impossible, but there are also important things that we do need that come from animals, not just meat and higher amounts of nutrients (cholesterol and high amounts of protein). That also brings medication, different climates can bring different diseases in which we will need to protect ourselves from. Animals can help with that (not saying plants can't either, but there is a difference), but will we have the knowledge to make these medications and save peoples lives. It's just as Snivy said, just one death can drastically effect the population with how low it already is.
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Re: Hypothetical rNd nation.
« Reply #54 on: July 19, 2012, 05:58:11 PM »
I could see the problem with population. Birth rates would be extremely low, and very slow, but with the amount of girls there are there shouldn't be a need for incest. If it was just one girl, then yeah, I could see the issue.
Even with 4 girls, we would be fucked within 3-4 generations.

It would kinda work like this:

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The family tree would be a circle.
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Re: Hypothetical rNd nation.
« Reply #55 on: July 19, 2012, 06:03:14 PM »
Even with 4 girls, we would be fucked within 3-4 generations.

It would kinda work like this:

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The family tree would be a circle.

Not exactly. There is are more than 8 people. Your chart just shows the family tree of 8 people and one kid for each. Assuming each woman has more than one, and with how much men we have on the forums, we won't be having much of a problem with incest like Marie said

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Re: Hypothetical rNd nation.
« Reply #56 on: July 19, 2012, 06:13:13 PM »
Not exactly. There is are more than 8 people. Your chart just shows the family tree of 8 people and one kid for each. Assuming each woman has more than one, and with how much men we have on the forums, we won't be having much of a problem with incest like Marie said
I doubt Marie and other women will allowing being degraded to a baby popping whores.
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Re: Hypothetical rNd nation.
« Reply #57 on: July 19, 2012, 06:14:50 PM »
I doubt Marie and other women will allowing being degraded to a baby popping whores.
I am sure when you have a low population you don't really look at it as being whores, you look at it as being a contribution. You're not doing it for the money or the pleasure, but to help the community. I wouldn't have said what I did if I thought it was downgrading myself. I would be using a skill of mine that the other 100 members do not have, and that is producing. At least that's how I look at it, I am not sure about the other girls.
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Re: Hypothetical rNd nation.
« Reply #58 on: July 19, 2012, 06:20:06 PM »
I doubt Marie and other women will allowing being degraded to a baby popping whores.

Why would it be degrading? It'd be necessary for the population to grow. Besides, we're not going to make each woman have something like 10+ kids each. I'd say between 2 and 5.
Also, "whore" isn't  the right term.
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Like Marie said, they wouldn't be doing it for the pleasure or money (or other supplements in this case since there won't be a currency).

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Re: Hypothetical rNd nation.
« Reply #59 on: July 19, 2012, 06:25:34 PM »
Why would it be degrading? It'd be necessary for the population to grow. Besides, we're not going to make each woman have something like 10+ kids each. I'd say between 2 and 5.
Also, "whore" isn't  the right term.
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Like Marie said, they wouldn't be doing it for the pleasure or money (or other supplements in this case since there won't be a currency).
Even if they popped out 10 or 20 babies, shits going to be fucked up eventually.

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In conservation biology, there is a concept called "effective population size". This is the minimum number of individuals that will represent the genetic variability within a population. Fifty is a minimum commonly used by animal breeders. This gives about a 2-3% loss of heterozygosity per generation. Some have suggested that 500 indivduals is enough so that the the new mutation rate balances the loss of heterozygosity due to small population sizes (inbreeding depression).

Also, it's degrading because there's no love involved in this, they have to do it with different guys. Companionship would die. There would be no couples, just groups.
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