Have a democratic type of way of preforming actions for around 50-100 people sound fine, but as for a 5-10 people group it would require less time to gather necessarily materials needed in which case each person who seems fit should be assigned a role and able to preform or do anything within the bound of that role without any further permission needed to be granted. While if they go outside of the bound a punishment system should be start (as in 1 mistake; Slap on the hand and let free, 2 mistakes reduced amount of excess food consumed AKA less snacks, 3 mistakes result in temporary banishment from role and is assigned to jail/ assisting another person with their roles.) But if they are a major role and reach 3 mistakes, they should be replaced with a more suiting figure.I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you are saying.
I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you are saying.Well since i'm horrible when it comes to writing big paragraphs and making sense
We will setup for a good week, before we all manage to drive each-other mad and end up killing one another, having our built civilization fall.That's the point.
>There's only like, four chicks in rndI say we give Sabb an ovary implant.
We're going to have some serious population issues.
>There's only like, four chicks in rnd
We're going to have some serious population issues.
I say we give Sabb an ovary implant.Workin' on it.
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Astropilot, Cake Face, contribute to the thread or get out.Was my Sabb suggestion not good enough?
I suggest communism (marxism). Small community and we should all get along for a while then possibly move to a different government like said above.BUT COMMUNISM TAKES AWAYS ARE FREEDUMS!!!
I'd start off making guns and drugs, secretly, if necessary.
>There's only like, four chicks in rnd
We're going to have some serious population issues.
Hypothetically, if were cut of from the outside world (can't met women from other places) , there's going to be serious population issues. The gene pool is going to be as backwards as fuck.
I'll just commit suicide.
Xrain.
First person in jail.Gotta make a good living. ;)
Gotta make a good living. ;)
Just because we'll be committing incest, it doesn't mean every child will be retarded. It just increases the chances that a child will be retarded.Or increasing the chances of having some horrible hereditary disease. Let's just hope none of us having a background of something that drastic.
Or increasing the chances of having some horrible hereditary disease. Let's just hope none of us having a background of something that drastic.
One problem that we might run into is the division of people.
I don't think Sanders and Rocket50 should be closer than 50 feet apart.
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One problem that we might run into is the division of people.Perhaps it would be a problem at first, but over time we would probably change because we would have to in order to maximize our chances of surviving.
I don't think Sanders and Rocket50 should be closer than 50 feet apart.
Our first priority should be to gather our bearings and figure out what kind of an environment we're in. Along with that, we would need to look at what sort of life the island holds, including animals and plants. While we're trying to distinguish edible plants from poisonous plants, easy game from dangerous animals, we would need to get a stable water and food supply going. Since we're on an island, the only real problem is figuring out how to purify the ocean water and remove all the salt.
Implying there isn't a mountain, which has a frozen peak, that melts and descends into a river of pure water.
I could see the problem with population. Birth rates would be extremely low, and very slow, but with the amount of girls there are there shouldn't be a need for incest. If it was just one girl, then yeah, I could see the issue.We could live from vegetables. It's not impossible.
Also agriculture and livestock is a very important thing as well, and even if they are there(animals that is), is there a high enough supply of them to last as the population increases? If not then we'd probably resort to eating a lot of farm produce (depending on the fertility of the ground), fruits from the native trees and/or fish. The lack of certain animals would also mean there would be a lack of certain materials to make certain things. Like for example, I really doubt there will be a dairy cow/pig on a random tropical (Then again, I am not exactly positive of the climate of this island), but since this states all resources are there, lets just say there is not a high percentage of them. If they run out, that takes away meat, leather, milk, etc.Spoiler (click to show/hide)
I honesty don't think we could last too many years with out some sort of importing and exporting, unless we want to risk endangering the species living on the island. There is not a definite size of the island, and what other resources there could be that could help avoid this from happening, so we might be alright. There would need to be some heavy exploration, that's for sure, because even if we have all necessary resources now, that doesn't mean they will be there forever.
We could live from vegetables. It's not impossible.
I could see the problem with population. Birth rates would be extremely low, and very slow, but with the amount of girls there are there shouldn't be a need for incest. If it was just one girl, then yeah, I could see the issue.Even with 4 girls, we would be fucked within 3-4 generations.
Even with 4 girls, we would be fucked within 3-4 generations.
It would kinda work like this:Spoiler (click to show/hide)
The family tree would be a circle.
Not exactly. ThereI doubt Marie and other women will allowing being degraded to a baby popping whores.isare more than 8 people. Your chart just shows the family tree of 8 people and one kid for each. Assuming each woman has more than one, and with how much men we have on the forums, we won't be having much of a problem with incest like Marie said
I doubt Marie and other women will allowing being degraded to a baby popping whores.I am sure when you have a low population you don't really look at it as being whores, you look at it as being a contribution. You're not doing it for the money or the pleasure, but to help the community. I wouldn't have said what I did if I thought it was downgrading myself. I would be using a skill of mine that the other 100 members do not have, and that is producing. At least that's how I look at it, I am not sure about the other girls.
I doubt Marie and other women will allowing being degraded to a baby popping whores.
Why would it be degrading? It'd be necessary for the population to grow. Besides, we're not going to make each woman have something like 10+ kids each. I'd say between 2 and 5.Even if they popped out 10 or 20 babies, shits going to be fucked up eventually.
Also, "whore" isn't the right term.Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Like Marie said, they wouldn't be doing it for the pleasure or money (or other supplements in this case since there won't be a currency).
In conservation biology, there is a concept called "effective population size". This is the minimum number of individuals that will represent the genetic variability within a population. Fifty is a minimum commonly used by animal breeders. This gives about a 2-3% loss of heterozygosity per generation. Some have suggested that 500 indivduals is enough so that the the new mutation rate balances the loss of heterozygosity due to small population sizes (inbreeding depression).
Not exactly. ThereThis is true seeing how some us of can neglect reproducing with the first population and there's at least a chance of getting 10-15 girls from the next generation if at minimum each women produces 5-10 children.isare more than 8 people. Your chart just shows the family tree of 8 people and one kid for each. Assuming each woman has more than one, and with how much men we have on the forums, we won't be having much of a problem with incest like Marie said
The even scarier question is: Who's gonna fuck who?Me obviously.
Also, it's degrading because there's no love involved in this, they have to do it with different guys. Companionship would die. There would be no couples, just groups.
Even if they popped out 10 or 20 babies, shits going to be fucked up eventually.I don't think so. It was said before, we're so diverse and from all over the world, after a certain time period, there won't be much of an issue with kids. We'll get the unlucky one every now and then, but I don't believe it would be common.
Also, it's degrading because there's no love involved in this, they have to do it with different guys. Companionship would die. There would be no couples, just groups.
This is not completely true. I could still find someone to love, while providing a service as a female. With the circumstance I am sure my spouse wouldn't mind, it's for the sake of survival, and I wouldn't have to do it forever.
You're looking at it in an emotional perspective, instead of a survival one.
The even scarier question is: Who's gonna fuck who?I think it's safe to say I will be of no use for re-population.
This is not completely true. I could still find someone to love, while providing a service as a female. With the circumstance I am sure my spouse wouldn't mind, it's for the sake of survival, and I wouldn't have to do it forever.The thing is that not everyone is willing to be a swinger. Some people are going to put their emotions over that. It's going to cause jealousy. Jealousy breeds hate. Hate brings out the worst in people. There's going to be tensions within the group, and something bad is bound to happen. It's just human nature, and people can't stop their emotions.
You're looking at it in an emotional perspective, instead of a survival one.
I don't think so. It was said before, we're so diverse and from all over the world, after a certain time period, there won't be much of an issue with kids. We'll get the unlucky one every now and then, but I don't believe it would be common.I don't think you read what I pasted. According to that, it would take 500 people to make sure no one is inbred. We only got around 60, which 90+% of them are guys.
I don't think you read what I pasted. According to that, it would take 500 people to make sure no one is inbred. We only got around 60, which 90+% of them are guys.
This whole thing is a incredibly risky game of chance.
I would say it would work if we had access to another established tribe of people. Or even if we had every chick that has ever played in a RND server. Or even the whole GMOD community.
I'm just saying that the gene pool would be as fucked up as the country people in Deliverance.
Wait, before everyone starts considering the inevitable future of bad genetic diversity, are we starting on an island with NOTHING?
Because I have extensive survival experience and could help start people off with fires, shelters and such
I can help
I have no experience
but I play alot of DayZ
GOD IM SO FUNNY
Wait, before everyone starts considering the inevitable future of bad genetic diversity, are we starting on an island with NOTHING?
Here's the hypothetical situation.
Everyone on earth is killed except for the people who have registered accounts on the forums.
You get 10 minutes and then you're teleported to a subtropical island populated by the other people of the community with the objects on your person (what you are wearing and holding).
Other GMOD communities are alive and on different places of the archipelago. So, naturally, the populace depends on the continents.
The Earth's atmosphere is no longer fucked up, and all the resources on the Earth have been restored to record levels. Long-extinct plants and animals live once more, although the island would have a limited large predator population.
Garry is dead, and we don't have means of communicating with other islands. The communities with <20 people are randomly distributed amongst the bigger communities.
Then we WILL need a military, for the obligatory NOX invasion.
Gentlemen, defensive positions.
Then we WILL need a military, for the obligatory NOX invasion.
Gentlemen, defensive positions.
Make sure to grab all the guns in your house before you teleport.
Actually, no. If some of the children are females then there is no problem. Since the father doesn't have to impregnate the daughter. (an other person can do it.)You don't see to understand that there will be a problem with genetic code by the fifth generation. This is VERY complicated to explain, but I'm going to try to make it less complicated.
As you see, by the fifth generation, we're back with our relatives by default. This allows genetic diseases to go wild. It doesn't matter if they have 2 or 10 kids, it's at a stopping point at the fifth generation gene wise.
10 minutes? Sweet. Ill grab my bugout bag, a portable stove, fuel cans, 4 man first aid kit, mulay combat knife, fishing rod, tackle box, and 50 rolls of duct tape.
Does anyone want some canned beans? :3
Edit: SOLUTION FOR INBRED FUTURE -> STEAL NOX WOMEN, TURN THEM INTO BABY POPPING MACHINES, PROFIT.
By the second generation, we should already be having boats and be communicating/migrating to other islands and populations.In that case, then yes, we would survive. I was under the impression that we were the only survivors left.
In that case, then yes, we would survive. I was under the impression that we were the only survivors left.
Also, if I hugged the corner of my house as I transcended to an island, would that count as holding it?
Men. Post your inventory.
Four HK416's.
Two gold plated Desert Eagles with exploding rounds.
Three bitches at my side, one blonde one brunette and a hot red-hed.
An emergency check for six million dollars, just in case.
And last but not least, a letter written from the President, myself, disregarding any warrants and all future crimes.
Four HK416's.
Two gold plated Desert Eagles with exploding rounds.
Three bitches at my side, one blonde one brunette and a hot red-hed.
An emergency check for six million dollars, just in case.
And last but not least, a letter written from the President, myself, disregarding any warrants and all future crimes.
Men. Post your inventory.Uh, shit. Mine would be:
My god damn computer
Flashlight
Better be one of those wind up ones.
Good lot that'll do ya on a remote island.Yeah it's a stupid idea to bring it, but in desperate times, it could act as a cooking plate...
Yeah it's a stupid idea to bring it, but in desperate times, it could act as a cooking plate...Boilling an egg on a GPU! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdWyeEUK5BE#)
Yeah it's a stupid idea to bring it, but in desperate times, it could act as a cooking plate...
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5x 20 Canadian Dollar Bills
I'd take all the hatchets and other tools for farming/constructing I could find,
all the medicine/pills/aid I could find in my house,
the most comfortable and useful clothing
and get all the books that contain information about tropical plants/animals/diseases and other useful information.
Swiss army knife
Lighter
A bag full of crushed bottles (Blow in them to inflate them)
A hatchet
And a throwing axe
And then i'm all set.
Bugout Bag:
1x Sleeping Bag
1x Foamie Mattress
1x Small First Aid Kid
1x Snare Wire
1x Large Tarp
1x Firestarter Kit
-Matches
-Lighter
-Magnesium Flint Stick
1x Mulay Combat/Survival Knife
1x Battery Operated Flashlight and manymanymany AAA Batteries
1x Manual Water Pump Filter
1x Whistle
1x Compass
1x Compressed Pillow
5x 20 Canadian Dollar Bills
1x Iodine Water Purification Tablets
1x 75ft of Weak Dried Grass String
1x 200ft of Paracord
5x Large Black Plastic Bags
1x Space Blanket
5x MRE Food Packs
-Clothes, towels, toiletries, Gortex Boots, Watch, hats, socks, etc.
Hoarded Stuff:
5x Rolls of Duct Tape
1x Small Portable Stove
6x Stove Gas Cans
10x Cans of food
1x Large Family First Aid Kit
1x Cardboard Box
You all realize you only have ten minutes to grab all of thisWell then, I think I could be able to grab the tools, medicine and clothing in time.
right
Useless.Its a BUGOUT bag, and since I live in an urban area, it would make sense to bringmoney during an emergency when I need to GTFO within minutes
I'd just bring a knife, a flashlight,matches and if I could, my guitar.(I can't play it but I'd have plenty of time to learn.)
You all realize you only have ten minutes to grab all of this
right
snivy, its made to be taken fully stocked wiin minutes. And the oer crap is stuff I can snag from my house. Im sure theres more that I can take, but whatever
I doubt that you just happen to have an emergency apocalypse kit lying around next to your computer.
You don't know this day is coming. The second you find out that the world is going to end, the timer starts ticking.
I doubt that you just happen to have an emergency apocalypse kit lying around next to your computer.
You don't know this day is coming. The second you find out that the world is going to end, the timer starts ticking.
You all realize you only have ten minutes to grab all of this
right
the only real problem is figuring out how to purify the ocean water and remove all the salt.1. Dig a hole in the sand by the shore until you hit water.
1. Dig a hole in the sand by the shore until you hit water.
2. Put a bowl or other container in the middle of the hole.
3. Place plastic wrap or similar material over the entire hole sealed by sand over the edges.
4. Put a small object on top of the wrap to weigh it in a downward angle at the bowl.
5. The seawater evaporates, forming pure water on the plastic wrap.
6. The now fresh water then slides along the underside of the plastic until it reaches the middle, dropping into the bowl below.
You do realize how painfully slow of a process that is and the number of people that will be supported by that. A better way is to just boil the water and collect the steam, same process but faster.Hmmm well I never thought of that xD
Would this shit work?
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Sorta, yeah.
It would filter out alot of the larger particulates...as far as bacteria, i'm not sure.
Also, add a magnesium fire starter.
Honestly I'd just look for shit to do like cutting trees or something, wouldn't really like to get involved with all that political shit.
Would this shit work?
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