Regarding my position and performance as Admin

[Sabb]

Well let me see what I've gained so far from this thread. I owned up to previous actions and stated that I guarantee I have not abused since March 18th. I invited people to state situations in which I abused and I received none except for Prox's thinking I teleported, which I know as a fact I didn't. People started randomly calling me out for various other things which may or may not be correct.

Pretty much, nothing. All I want is for you to tell me if I abused and how I did and also for you to tell me what I can do in order to do a better job. Notice how in the OP I said to post:
I was not trying to start problems in this thread. I was just trying to fix them.


EDIT: Oh, right. I just wanted to end my post by saying you're stupid, Excalipoor. Way to randomly lash out with no backing of your statement so you can act like you know what you're talking about.

Okay, I fucking lol'd.
Just a tip; in these situations you might want to hold on the insults, threats, etc. It really doesn't help. Even if the person is acting like a fool.

[Tezuni]

Jman has a point about there being no substantial, without-a-doubt evidence against him.

[Shockah]

Jman has a point about there being no substantial, without-a-doubt evidence against him.

Without-a-doubt, definitely not how about any evidence what so ever? All we have is statements saying he may or may not have done this or may or may not have done that. There is NO evidence what so ever just opinions of his character and blatant accusations of abuse with no backing.

[Tezuni]

That's what I said. lol.

[Bovicide]

I gotta say that you are a fucking retard for making this thread Jman. It was obvious as day that there was only one guy there posting actual threads and insults (being a samefag all damn day), and then maybe two or three people bandwagoning. Nonetheless, this fact has been proven by this thread. Nobody here has posted a single explicit grievance; they just stir the kindling and hope it makes a fire. By making this thread and posting in the anonyboard topics you indirectly validate whatever bullshit they spew.

I was the one defending him in anonyboard, and I hope he stops replying to that shit.

[ursus]

I gotta say that you are a fucking retard for making this thread Jman. It was obvious as day that there was only one guy there posting actual threads and insults (being a samefag all damn day), and then maybe two or three people bandwagoning. Nonetheless, this fact has been proven by this thread. Nobody here has posted a single explicit grievance; they just stir the kindling and hope it makes a fire. By making this thread and posting in the anonyboard topics you indirectly validate whatever bullshit they spew.

I was the one defending him in anonyboard, and I hope he stops replying to that shit.

what everyone else was too afraid to say

[Sabb]

I gotta say that you are a fucking retard for making this thread Jman. It was obvious as day that there was only one guy there posting actual threads and insults (being a samefag all damn day), and then maybe two or three people bandwagoning. Nonetheless, this fact has been proven by this thread. Nobody here has posted a single explicit grievance; they just stir the kindling and hope it makes a fire. By making this thread and posting in the anonyboard topics you indirectly validate whatever bullshit they spew.

I was the one defending him in anonyboard, and I hope he stops replying to that shit.

Please, leave. You really don't know what you're talking about. He is arguing on the anonyboards too much... lol... but this thread isn't at all about that. Many people have directly made us aware (NOT THROUGH ANONYBOARDS) that they support those views etc. The thread is directed to all complaints that are serious. Not just the trolling anonyboard.

[Bovicide]

Well the audacity of your post. "Please, leave." I didn't know that I was not entitled to my half a paragraph opinion. Sorry I didn't type an insufferable wall of text like you. Just cause I can't join the admin circlejerk or whatever doesn't mean that I don't have a valid opinion. At least from this angle the attacks on Jman appear to be unwarranted.

[Sabb]

Well the audacity of your post. "Please, leave." I didn't know that I was not entitled to my half a paragraph opinion. Sorry I didn't type an insufferable wall of text like you. Just cause I can't join the admin circlejerk or whatever doesn't mean that I don't have a valid opinion. At least from this angle the attacks on Jman appear to be unwarranted.

I'd put my five hundred dollars worth of flaming here too but I'd rather not sink to your level.

Lol I'm in no way flaming. I'm just saying that you're uninformed, and are insulting Jman based on your lack of information.

I gotta say that you are a fucking retard for making this thread Jman. It was obvious as day that there was only one guy there posting actual threads and insults (being a samefag all damn day), and then maybe two or three people bandwagoning. Nonetheless, this fact has been proven by this thread. Nobody here has posted a single explicit grievance; they just stir the kindling and hope it makes a fire. By making this thread and posting in the anonyboard topics you indirectly validate whatever bullshit they spew.

I was the one defending him in anonyboard, and I hope he stops replying to that shit.

Certainly sounds a lot more like flaming, or at least an attempt to flaming, than this does:

Please, leave. You really don't know what you're talking about. He is arguing on the anonyboards too much... lol... but this thread isn't at all about that. Many people have directly made us aware (NOT THROUGH ANONYBOARDS) that they support those views etc. The thread is directed to all complaints that are serious. Not just the trolling anonyboard.

My comment had very little aggression. But, expect to get in return what you dish out.


But any ways... I've agreed that the attacks on Jman are unwarranted, that's what my tl;dr and every other post is saying. Clearly you didn't read much of it. I'm, again, only saying that you've got no right to be calling Jman a "fucking retard" for making this thread, when you're even assuming that the thread is simply based off what people in ab are saying. In reality, it's based off opinions and accusations that people have directly made, in comments, PM's, Steam messages, etc. It's hardly even related to ab.

[Tezuni]

This should really be locked now.

[Sabb]

This should really be locked now.

Um not really. There's still plenty of discussion going on. There's no total shit flinging going on yet.

[Pryvisee]

You've always been a friend and I have nothing against you.

Lets just all share the

[Bovicide]

Lol I'm in no way flaming. I'm just saying that you're uninformed, and are insulting Jman based on your lack of information.

Certainly sounds a lot more like flaming, or at least an attempt to flaming, than this does:
My comment had very little aggression. But, expect to get in return what you dish out.


But any ways... I've agreed that the attacks on Jman are unwarranted, that's what my tl;dr and every other post is saying. Clearly you didn't read much of it. I'm, again, only saying that you've got no right to be calling Jman a "fucking retard" for making this thread, when you're even assuming that the thread is simply based off what people in ab are saying. In reality, it's based off opinions and accusations that people have directly made, in comments, PM's, Steam messages, etc. It's hardly even related to ab.

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Here's the "I address sabb directly, not the thread" section of bullshit.

Sorry you can't pick up the difference between

You are a fucking retard for doing this exact retarded thing.

--which is a reflection on someones actions, not directly confrontational
and

Please leave, you don't know what you are talking about.

--which is a direct attack on someone's credibility

The presence of a surface insult is far less demeaning than a roundabout request for someone to 'fuck off'. I guess you misconstrue the entire post because I attempt to grab the reader with a real one liner. The nuances of English are subtle for some uninformed people.

Did you pick up on that? That was an insult to your intelligence, yet it is far more confrontational than my original post. I'm sure you agree that the less obvious insult has more impact that way and is thus more hostile.

Anyway(no s), the on topic line.
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I'll try to level with you guys, since I'm a little too abusive for more people's tastes:

I think you should've just had a 1 on 1 with those people that Sabb mentions, Jman. Let me clarify.

I'd first like you to notice that I waited to post till the thread was a page in so that my point would be self evident instead of speculative. As I see it, this thread is the corner Jman has gratuitously allocated to fence any insults people would like to make public. Now, do you see any well constructed and based insults? Do you see any valid points of contention? No?

My point is proven. That point being that the (subconscious) purpose of this thread was to address concerns the faceless public has (read AB and otherwise), and THAT IS FUCKING RETARDED, because those posts that lead to this thread were baseless and Jman should've known that. They will only serve to validate those posts.

However, once more I feel the need to reiterate that I have nothing against Jman or his policies, and actively defended him in the AB threads. I just believe that the thread is fully and actually retarded.

That is my opinion on the thread.

[[TTPN] ShadowMoon]

I just believe that the thread is fully and actually retarded.

[Sabb]

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Here's the "I address sabb directly, not the thread" section of bullshit.

Sorry you can't pick up the difference between  --which is a reflection on someones actions, not directly confrontational
and  --which is a direct attack on someone's credibility

The presence of a surface insult is far less demeaning than a roundabout request for someone to 'fuck off'. I guess you misconstrue the entire post because I attempt to grab the reader with a real one liner. The nuances of English are subtle for some uninformed people.

Did you pick up on that? That was an insult to your intelligence, yet it is far more confrontational than my original post. I'm sure you agree that the less obvious insult has more impact that way and is thus more hostile.

Anyway(no s), the on topic line.
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I'll try to level with you guys, since I'm a little too abusive for more people's tastes:

I think you should've just had a 1 on 1 with those people that Sabb mentions, Jman. Let me clarify.

I'd first like you to notice that I waited to post till the thread was a page in so that my point would be self evident instead of speculative. As I see it, this thread is the corner Jman has gratuitously allocated to fence any insults people would like to make public. Now, do you see any well constructed and based insults? Do you see any valid points of contention? No?

My point is proven. That point being that the (subconscious) purpose of this thread was to address concerns the faceless public has (read AB and otherwise), and THAT IS FUCKING RETARDED, because those posts that lead to this thread were baseless and Jman should've known that. They will only serve to validate those posts.

However, once more I feel the need to reiterate that I have nothing against Jman or his policies, and actively defended him in the AB threads. I just believe that the thread is fully and actually retarded.

That is my opinion on the thread.

I disagree. It's to attempt to make people understand that there isn't truly any good reason to be disliking Jman as admin currently and that there is some proof to support that he has been a help and hasn't been a nuisance.

And again, I don't think I'm the only one that your comment is far more aggressive/offensive than mine... idc about the bullshit about it being an attack on your credibility. You simply wouldn't have even gotten the little line of "please, leave" (which I can't fucking believe YOU took offense too, when you, even right now, have your little superior elitist attitude that everyone but you is a fool and such) if you hadn't included YOUR unnecessary insult.

But any ways... this thread isn't about Sander's elitist douchebaggery. I'm not locking the thread yet until it dies out from people simply not posting any more, or turns into all out shit flinging.

I still believe plenty of people have a hate for Jman, and dislike that he's admin with unjustified reason. A lot of it is people solely disliking Jman's personality, but his (poor) traits don't and really haven't, affected Jman's position as an admin and his decisions.

Lately, there's been a cute little survey going around to provide "facts" about whether Jman is overall liked or not as an admin, though only a small portion of people are even being asked. It's solely to cause further conflict between Jman and the community, and is not needed. If the person who's planning to finish and post the "survey" reads this, it would be best that you keep your results to yourself as it's only obviously going to create more conflicts which are in no way needed. The survey helps no one. As well, it will in no way be getting close to resulting in Jman being demoted unless there is actual evidence of abuse or anything of the like, contrary to some belief.