Homosexual Marriage

[Ἆxule]

The way I see it - It's not affecting my life, so why the hell should I care? It's also been shown that homosexual parents are more beneficial to children than heterosexual parents. For one, they adopt kids from orphanages. But that's a whole other story.

I understand people see it as "unnatural" and "disgusting", but really, it's not like this is new. It's been practiced since recorded history. Big woop.

What really annoys me are those extremists who believe gays and lesbians are the spawn of Satan and that they should die in a fire. That's just... It amazes how religious people can be so hateful like that. But that's why I'm not very religious.

[Frank]

The way I see it - It's not affecting my life, so why the hell should I care? It's also been shown that homosexual parents are more beneficial to children than heterosexual parents. For one, they adopt kids from orphanages. But that's a whole other story.

I understand people see it as "unnatural" and "disgusting", but really, it's not like this is new. It's been practiced since recorded history. Big woop.

What really annoys me are those extremists who believe gays and lesbians are the spawn of Satan and that they should die in a fire. That's just... It amazes how religious people can be so hateful like that. But that's why I'm not very religious.

Although I'm okay with your post, I don't think that "it's been done since ever" is a good argument for anything. Specially because then they could also say that cannibalism is okay too, and that so is murder.

[Ἆxule]

Although I'm okay with your post, I don't think that "it's been done since ever" is a good argument for anything. Specially because then they could also say that cannibalism is okay too, and that so is murder.

That's a good point. I only really brought it up to prove that it's not new in society. But after rereading it, I see how I wrote it incorrectly.

[Tiger Guy]

Although I'm okay with your post, I don't think that "it's been done since ever" is a good argument for anything. Specially because then they could also say that cannibalism is okay too, and that so is murder.

Expect that murder and cannibalism is taking away life from a person to potentially benefit (its still wrong unless they're trying to kill you) another, or just that they're sick in the head.  Gay rights don't take rights away from anyone.

[Shockah]

Expect that murder and cannibalism is taking away life from a person to potentially benefit (its still wrong unless they're trying to kill you) another, or just that they're sick in the head.  Gay rights don't take rights away from anyone.

Exactly, I tend to follow a lot of John Lockes philosophy in this instance as well, if it isn't adversely affecting someone else than you should have the freedom to do as you please.

[toehawk]

That's a good point. I only really brought it up to prove that it's not new in society. But after rereading it, I see how I wrote it incorrectly.

as a matter of fact you where right, the early vikings had a set of laws that where upheld by a counsel of elders, among them was that homosexuality was punishable by death, (oddly it was the only thing that merited death for them, usualy the worst thing possible was just exile)
writings on egyptian depicting homosexuality and bestiality as wrong appeared in temples and tombs.

hommosexuality is not new, but open homosexuality is

[Ἆxule]

as a matter of fact you where right, the early vikings had a set of laws that where upheld by a counsel of elders, among them was that homosexuality was punishable by death, (oddly it was the only thing that merited death for them, usualy the worst thing possible was just exile)
writings on egyptian depicting homosexuality and bestiality as wrong appeared in temples and tombs.

hommosexuality is not new, but open homosexuality is

Not exactly. It depends on the culture. There were a few cultures during the time of Persia that were open to homosexuality.

[Shockah]

Not exactly. It depends on the culture. There were a few cultures during the time of Persia that were open to homosexuality.

Ehhh Rome, Greece, all those crazy mofos or am I mis-informed?

[Ἆxule]

Ehhh Rome, Greece, all those crazy mofos or am I mis-informed?

Nope, those were the ones I was thinking of

[Tezuni]

topless women...

When they are just hanging there staring you in the face all the time it might get old and lose the main attraction.

Cleavage and all that good stuff is fun though 

[cogsandspigots]

And at the same time, you won't get very far trying to force upon your beliefs and opinions on other people, just like those who are going out of their way to oppose same sex marriage.

I wasn't asking him to take my beliefs (I'm not against same sex marriage, mind you), I was asking him to just respect mine, as well as the rest of the world's.

[Prox]

I can argue with this!

Let me just pull out a book written by who-knows and pretend to know exactly what is right.

Even though I have no evidence, the imaginary friend says it is wrong, so it must be wrong!

so fanni i loled xDDD

adoption is something thats taken seriously. A couple cannot just go in the store and pick out a baby like its the animal humane society. You have to be a certain age to adopt, have a certain income, and have a stable background and of course, a stable home. I assure you that the adoption agency does not just give out children to anyone. My point is; they make sure its an actual loving home for the child. Regardless if it were a two gay men.

The whole thing about "the child has to have a mother/father figure"? Bullshit, there's plenty of children out there who's fathers abandoned them and their mothers when they found out she was knocked up. I know someone who's mother died at a young age and grew up without one up and he turns out just fine. I know a girl who was raped a child by her step father because her mother was too drugged up to know.

I don't think that it is necessary to have a mother and a father either and I understand that adoption is a serious thing but what I'm afraid of is that the kid that would get adopted by a homosexual family would as well become a homosexual while it isn't necessarily a bad thing but there is absolutely no need to increase the number of homosexuals. Also it is more then likely that that kid would get bullied at school because of his parents.

This is what I personally think so don't try to put your thoughts in my head because I'm not doing this to any of you, I just simply stated my opinion and now it seems I have to "defend" myself because not all of you are tolerant enough.

[Sabb]

so fanni i loled xDDD

I don't think that it is necessary to have a mother and a father either and I understand that adoption is a serious thing but what I'm afraid of is that the kid that would get adopted by a homosexual family would as well become a homosexual while it isn't necessarily a bad thing but there is absolutely no need to increase the number of homosexuals. Also it is more then likely that that kid would get bullied at school because of his parents.

This is what I personally think so don't try to put your thoughts in my head because I'm not doing this to any of you, I just simply stated my opinion and now it seems I have to "defend" myself because not all of you are tolerant enough.

I was just waiting for this point to be brought up. I know some people argue that the child's life won't be the same and can't be raised the same etc, not necessarily that the parents aren't capable of raising them right... but yea. Kids will always bully each other. And if kids being bullied for having gay parents becomes an issue, then enforce stricter laws basically. Of course they're kids so there's not much that can be done, but if they're causing serious issues, then I would say something should be done to them for sure. Even if they're young. But any ways... them being bullied isn't an entirely terrible thing any ways. Yes, it sucks to have to go through that, but generally it also teaches them a lot about life, morals, values, etc. So it could actually aid them long-term. Yes it's a weird argument to make, but there's basically no solid solution to the problem, so you might as well make the best of it.

[Prox]

I was just waiting for this point to be brought up. I know some people argue that the child's life won't be the same and can't be raised the same etc, not necessarily that the parents aren't capable of raising them right... but yea. Kids will always bully each other. And if kids being bullied for having gay parents becomes an issue, then enforce stricter laws basically. Of course they're kids so there's not much that can be done, but if they're causing serious issues, then I would say something should be done to them for sure. Even if they're young. But any ways... them being bullied isn't an entirely terrible thing any ways. Yes, it sucks to have to go through that, but generally it also teaches them a lot about life, morals, values, etc. So it could actually aid them long-term. Yes it's a weird argument to make, but there's basically no solid solution to the problem, so you might as well make the best of it.

Getting bullied can teach the kids something about life but at what cost...
Bulling also teaches the kids to do suicides, you know. In here where I live this happened more then once.

[Frank]

so fanni i loled xDDD

I don't think that it is necessary to have a mother and a father either and I understand that adoption is a serious thing but what I'm afraid of is that the kid that would get adopted by a homosexual family would as well become a homosexual while it isn't necessarily a bad thing but there is absolutely no need to increase the number of homosexuals. Also it is more then likely that that kid would get bullied at school because of his parents.

This is what I personally think so don't try to put your thoughts in my head because I'm not doing this to any of you, I just simply stated my opinion and now it seems I have to "defend" myself because not all of you are tolerant enough.

Zomggggg!!!1!1! faggots and dykes multiplying? Oh woooow! Just like amoebas!


I'm really questioning your argument now. Do you really think that just because someone's parents are gay, their children will also be gay? Then why am I gay if my parents are straight?

Getting bullied can teach the kids something about life but at what cost...
Bulling also teaches the kids to do suicides, you know. In here where I live this happened more then once.

If you want bullying to stop, don't stop the bullied from breeding, prevent the bullies from bullying. It's like punishing the raped.