I believe that the government shouldn't have anything to do with marriage. Especially if they're going to justify their reasons from the bible.
I believe that the government shouldn't have anything to do with marriage. Especially if they're going to justify their reasons from the bible.
I believe that the government shouldn't have anything to do with marriage. Especially if they're going to justify their reasons from the bible.
my opinion is that you need to make your images larger
you're just getting old cuz I can read it just fine LOL.Not really I just didn't want to put my face to the screen to read it.
But the last tl;dr post that dude gave really set me off.
"HAHA DIS MURIKA CHRISTIAN NATIONZ NO OTHER RELIGION!"
fuck bro?
But the last tl;dr post that dude gave really set me off.Haha, he believes that America is a christian nation.
"HAHA DIS MURIKA CHRISTIAN NATIONZ NO OTHER RELIGION!"
fuck bro?
Depends on how you define Marriage. If you mean in the religious sort shown by the people in Devies post, then i am against it. Marriage was meant to be the holy matrimony between two people (man and woman) gay marriage would contradict this.But marriage technically has nothing to do with religion. Marriage is a social union or legal contract between people that creates kinship.
Now don't get me wrong, if you mean marriage as in the binding of two people until death or however (as in non-religious) then I would support them 100%. I just personally don't see the point in changing the term 'Civil Partnership' Just to 'Marriage' Just for the sake of it, when really its just a word, the commitments are exactly the same.
But marriage technically has nothing to do with religion. Marriage is a social union or legal contract between people that creates kinship.Good luck trying to convince lawmakers that.
Good luck trying to convince lawmakers that.They shouldn't be in politics in the first place if they seriously put their religion before their state.
Haha, he believes that America is a christian nation.
America = Clusterfuck of everything nation
Come on its the 21'st century.
Imagine if a Muslim or Atheist tried to run for president.People will freak out saying "A terrorist is running our country!"
Imagine if a Muslim or Atheist tried to run for president.b-b-b-b-but OBAMA IZ A MUSLIM!!!1!!1!1
People will freak out saying "A terrorist is running our country!"
Doubt that's ganna happen
I may not necessarily believe it is the right thing, but I respect the person for their choice and wish them the best no matter what. They have every right to get married and be happy and they shouldn't have anyone tell them otherwise. There are some gay people out there that have better relationships then a lot of straight people.But people don't choose to be gay. Or my reading comprehension has gone wack.
But people don't choose to be gay. Or my reading comprehension has gone wack.Well, they could be naturally gay, but choose to just be a straight person, I've seen people do this. So choosing to be openly homosexual, is their choice. But as I've said before, I respect them none the less. We are are in no room to judge.
Well, they could be naturally gay, but choose to just be a straight person, I've seen people do this. So choosing to be openly homosexual, is their choice. But as I've said before, I respect them none the less. We are are in no room to judge.They act like they're straight because they don't want the ridicule that comes with being gay. Those that are openly gay just don't give a fuck or have never been bullied about it before.
They act like they're straight because they don't want the ridicule that comes with being gay. Those that are openly gay just don't give a fuck or have never been bullied about it before.I never said that wasn't the case, that probably is the reason if anything. Very unfortunate.
personally i just think its disgusting and freakish. thats allWe're not asking you to make love to a man. Just think from their view for a second.
personally i just think its disgusting and freakish. thats all
personally i just think its disgusting and freakish. thats allWhilst I respect your right to your own opinion, I respect my right to say your opinion sucks.
Whilst I respect your right to your own opinion, I respect my right to say your opinion sucks.My thoughts exactly.
Anyways, here is a little something on facebook that I found not too long ago. Read and opinions would be appreciated.
America really needs to pull their heads out of their asses and let people make their own choices, regardless of what the magical fairy tale book tells them.
Don't really give a fuck. If they're happy together - if they fucking love eachother - and they want to marry eachother -- let them do it.
Gay Pride parades are stupid. Who cares if your'e gay. You aren't special in any way. You are just as good as any straight person :hellokitty: You don't see straight pride paradesYeah when gays are fully accepted in society. For now, I think they feel bullied by society and some probably need those parades for self esteem.Spoiler (click to show/hide)
perhaps i was misunderstood, i am not against homosexual marriage, i just personally think it is rather disgusting, and wrong (i am religious, insert hate here _________________________________,) i dont care how other people live their lives, i would not go to an anti gay protest, if a freind of mine came out of the closet i would support and encourage him. -I do not hate gays because i am christian- i do not dislike gays for who they are, just what they do, i dont care that they do it, i just dislike it, i simply dont care what they do. or what laws about it existSo you're saying
While I do understand that gayness in religion is wrong, I do not understand why does gay people want to get married in church. I'm not really that old to know (or that willing to google it...) but you don't need to have wedding in church, you can just register you and your partner as married.I think the topic is legal marriage, not religious.
I know that gay people can be religious or not, but you don't need to be part of a religion to embrace God or what ever your religion might be like. Think for yourselves. All of the religions are made up by people, so why shouldn't the other people who are in this religion not effect it? God never will say what is wrong. If you make somebody unhappy because their interest in sex is different, it's sad. But humans are stupid. People won't just change their religion. So why not be the smarter one and actually think for yourselves.
Conclusion (TL,DR): Gay people don't need to get married in church, you can still be religious even though you are gay and not 'in' church.
perhaps i was misunderstood, i am not against homosexual marriage, i just personally think it is rather disgusting, and wrong (i am religious, insert hate here _________________________________,) i dont care how other people live their lives, i would not go to an anti gay protest, if a freind of mine came out of the closet i would support and encourage him. -I do not hate gays because i am christian- i do not dislike gays for who they are, just what they do, i dont care that they do it, i just dislike it, i simply dont care what they do. or what laws about it existYes, but again, not one's telling you to make love to a guy. The majority of people here are straight and also are not into that lol... it's a given.
I disagree with it. Not because of what religions say but it just shouldn't be that way. Having too many freedoms won't bring us to a golden age.It's not about if it brings a 'golden age'. It's about doing what is morally right.
It's not about if it brings a 'golden age'. It's about doing what is morally right.Allowing gay marriages is not morally right.
Allowing gay marriages is not morally right.Okay then, explain why it is wrong.
Okay then, explain why it is wrong.Because a marriage should be only between a man and a woman and I don't even want to talk about what would happen if people who would be in a homosexual marriage would adopt a child. It just cannot be that way.
Because a marriage should be only between a man and a womanWhy 'should' it be? I don't see in the definition of marriage that it is strictly 'Man and woman'. Just human and human.
I don't even want to talk about what would happen if people who would be in a homosexual marriage would adopt a child. It just cannot be that way.The child would be adopted by a loving, yet gay, family. There's millions of children wanting a loving family and home just rotting away at orphanages. Just because they are gay doesn't mean they're sick in the head.
I have a strong opinion about this and nothing is going to change it so let's not argue about this too much.Okay then.
Because a marriage should be only between a man and a woman and I don't even want to talk about what would happen if people who would be in a homosexual marriage would adopt a child. It just cannot be that way.whats wrong with two gay guys adopting a child.
I have a strong opinion about this and nothing is going to change it so let's not argue about this too much.
Because a marriage should be only between a man and a woman and I don't even want to talk about what would happen if people who would be in a homosexual marriage would adopt a child. It just cannot be that way.
I have a strong opinion about this and nothing is going to change it so let's not argue about this too much.
Because a marriage should be only between a man and a woman and I don't even want to talk about what would happen if people who would be in a homosexual marriage would adopt a child. It just cannot be that way.
I have a strong opinion about this and nothing is going to change it so let's not argue about this too much.
I can argue with this!
Let me just pull out a book written by who-knows and pretend to know exactly what is right.
Even though I have no evidence, the imaginary friend says it is wrong, so it must be wrong!
So you're saying
"I don't really care, but I care"
i'm saying i personally think it is wrong, but do not care what others do with their lives
i'm saying i personally think it is wrong, but do not care what others do with their lives
i'm saying i personally think it is wrong, but do not care what others do with their livesWhat's wrong about it.
i'm saying i personally think it is wrong, but do not care what others do with their lives
What's wrong about it.
I know it's easy to ask why about things Tiger Guy, but these types of topics, people usually have firm grounds on their beliefs. That's their opinion, and you've just got to learn to accept it. If he personally doesn't think it is right, that's his own thoughts.That's the thing. There's NOTHING wrong about it, yet people don't like it because it goes against their bullshit religious beliefs or because "its weird."
That's the thing. There's NOTHING wrong about it, yet people don't like it because it goes against their bullshit religious beliefs or because "its weird.""bullshit religious beliefs"
"bullshit religious beliefs"
Tiger Guy, you just insulted over 9/10 of the people on this planet.
Religious beliefs are not "bullshit", they are something that a person holds very dear to them.
You will not get far in life if you cannot accept others' beliefs and opinions.
"bullshit religious beliefs"Okay. I really don't care.
Tiger Guy, you just insulted over 9/10 of the people on this planet.
Religious beliefs are not "bullshit", they are something that a person holds very dear to them.
You will not get far in life if you cannot accept others' beliefs and opinions.
"bullshit religious beliefs"
Tiger Guy, you just insulted over 9/10 of the people on this planet.
Religious beliefs are not "bullshit", they are something that a person holds very dear to them.
You will not get far in life if you cannot accept others' beliefs and opinions.
You will not get far in life if you cannot accept others' beliefs and opinions.And at the same time, you won't get very far trying to force upon your beliefs and opinions on other people, just like those who are going out of their way to oppose same sex marriage.
The way I see it - It's not affecting my life, so why the hell should I care? It's also been shown that homosexual parents are more beneficial to children than heterosexual parents. For one, they adopt kids from orphanages. But that's a whole other story.Although I'm okay with your post, I don't think that "it's been done since ever" is a good argument for anything. Specially because then they could also say that cannibalism is okay too, and that so is murder.
I understand people see it as "unnatural" and "disgusting", but really, it's not like this is new. It's been practiced since recorded history. Big woop.
What really annoys me are those extremists who believe gays and lesbians are the spawn of Satan and that they should die in a fire. That's just... It amazes how religious people can be so hateful like that. But that's why I'm not very religious.
Although I'm okay with your post, I don't think that "it's been done since ever" is a good argument for anything. Specially because then they could also say that cannibalism is okay too, and that so is murder.
Although I'm okay with your post, I don't think that "it's been done since ever" is a good argument for anything. Specially because then they could also say that cannibalism is okay too, and that so is murder.Expect that murder and cannibalism is taking away life from a person to potentially benefit (its still wrong unless they're trying to kill you) another, or just that they're sick in the head. Gay rights don't take rights away from anyone.
Expect that murder and cannibalism is taking away life from a person to potentially benefit (its still wrong unless they're trying to kill you) another, or just that they're sick in the head. Gay rights don't take rights away from anyone.
That's a good point. I only really brought it up to prove that it's not new in society. But after rereading it, I see how I wrote it incorrectly.
as a matter of fact you where right, the early vikings had a set of laws that where upheld by a counsel of elders, among them was that homosexuality was punishable by death, (oddly it was the only thing that merited death for them, usualy the worst thing possible was just exile)
writings on egyptian depicting homosexuality and bestiality as wrong appeared in temples and tombs.
hommosexuality is not new, but open homosexuality is
Not exactly. It depends on the culture. There were a few cultures during the time of Persia that were open to homosexuality.
Ehhh Rome, Greece, all those crazy mofos or am I mis-informed?
And at the same time, you won't get very far trying to force upon your beliefs and opinions on other people, just like those who are going out of their way to oppose same sex marriage.I wasn't asking him to take my beliefs (I'm not against same sex marriage, mind you), I was asking him to just respect mine, as well as the rest of the world's.
I can argue with this!so fanni i loled xDDD
Let me just pull out a book written by who-knows and pretend to know exactly what is right.
Even though I have no evidence, the imaginary friend says it is wrong, so it must be wrong!
adoption is something thats taken seriously. A couple cannot just go in the store and pick out a baby like its the animal humane society. You have to be a certain age to adopt, have a certain income, and have a stable background and of course, a stable home. I assure you that the adoption agency does not just give out children to anyone. My point is; they make sure its an actual loving home for the child. Regardless if it were a two gay men.I don't think that it is necessary to have a mother and a father either and I understand that adoption is a serious thing but what I'm afraid of is that the kid that would get adopted by a homosexual family would as well become a homosexual while it isn't necessarily a bad thing but there is absolutely no need to increase the number of homosexuals. Also it is more then likely that that kid would get bullied at school because of his parents.
The whole thing about "the child has to have a mother/father figure"? Bullshit, there's plenty of children out there who's fathers abandoned them and their mothers when they found out she was knocked up. I know someone who's mother died at a young age and grew up without one up and he turns out just fine. I know a girl who was raped a child by her step father because her mother was too drugged up to know.
so fanni i loled xDDDI was just waiting for this point to be brought up. I know some people argue that the child's life won't be the same and can't be raised the same etc, not necessarily that the parents aren't capable of raising them right... but yea. Kids will always bully each other. And if kids being bullied for having gay parents becomes an issue, then enforce stricter laws basically. Of course they're kids so there's not much that can be done, but if they're causing serious issues, then I would say something should be done to them for sure. Even if they're young. But any ways... them being bullied isn't an entirely terrible thing any ways. Yes, it sucks to have to go through that, but generally it also teaches them a lot about life, morals, values, etc. So it could actually aid them long-term. Yes it's a weird argument to make, but there's basically no solid solution to the problem, so you might as well make the best of it.
I don't think that it is necessary to have a mother and a father either and I understand that adoption is a serious thing but what I'm afraid of is that the kid that would get adopted by a homosexual family would as well become a homosexual while it isn't necessarily a bad thing but there is absolutely no need to increase the number of homosexuals. Also it is more then likely that that kid would get bullied at school because of his parents.
This is what I personally think so don't try to put your thoughts in my head because I'm not doing this to any of you, I just simply stated my opinion and now it seems I have to "defend" myself because not all of you are tolerant enough.
I was just waiting for this point to be brought up. I know some people argue that the child's life won't be the same and can't be raised the same etc, not necessarily that the parents aren't capable of raising them right... but yea. Kids will always bully each other. And if kids being bullied for having gay parents becomes an issue, then enforce stricter laws basically. Of course they're kids so there's not much that can be done, but if they're causing serious issues, then I would say something should be done to them for sure. Even if they're young. But any ways... them being bullied isn't an entirely terrible thing any ways. Yes, it sucks to have to go through that, but generally it also teaches them a lot about life, morals, values, etc. So it could actually aid them long-term. Yes it's a weird argument to make, but there's basically no solid solution to the problem, so you might as well make the best of it.Getting bullied can teach the kids something about life but at what cost...
so fanni i loled xDDDZomggggg!!!1!1! faggots and dykes multiplying? Oh woooow! Just like amoebas!
I don't think that it is necessary to have a mother and a father either and I understand that adoption is a serious thing but what I'm afraid of is that the kid that would get adopted by a homosexual family would as well become a homosexual while it isn't necessarily a bad thing but there is absolutely no need to increase the number of homosexuals. Also it is more then likely that that kid would get bullied at school because of his parents.
This is what I personally think so don't try to put your thoughts in my head because I'm not doing this to any of you, I just simply stated my opinion and now it seems I have to "defend" myself because not all of you are tolerant enough.
Getting bullied can teach the kids something about life but at what cost...If you want bullying to stop, don't stop the bullied from breeding, prevent the bullies from bullying. It's like punishing the raped.
Bulling also teaches the kids to do suicides, you know. In here where I live this happened more then once.
Getting bullied can teach the kids something about life but at what cost...Obviously, but I'm not supporting bullying. Kids will get bullied no matter what, but stricter rules can prevent it as well.
Bulling also teaches the kids to do suicides, you know. In here where I live this happened more then once.
Obviously, but I'm not supporting bullying. Kids will get bullied no matter what, but stricter rules can prevent it as well.
And what Frank said.
I got bullied for being asian, I got bullied for being short, I got bullied for not being "white".But that's your fault! You should be white! You should be tall!
T_T
I don't think that it is necessary to have a mother and a father either and I understand that adoption is a serious thing but what I'm afraid of is that the kid that would get adopted by a homosexual family would as well become a homosexual while it isn't necessarily a bad thing but there is absolutely no need to increase the number of homosexuals.Humans don't 'turn' gay, they are born that way.
Also it is more then likely that that kid would get bullied at school because of his parents.Well yeah, but it's more likely that a kid will get bullied at school if he plays video games, and look what we do. It's not their fault, it's the other children's parents fault for bring up a bigot. It's kinda like being bullied because your race or height. You can't control it.
Humans don't 'turn' gay, they are born that way.
Yap yap.
"A straight couple can make their kid turn gay as much as a gay couple can"
Maybe people need to start smacking their children once they show signs of homosexuality. Like, wearing mommys shoes, etc.
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LOL, I don't necessarily think that's the best way to go about things though the general gay stereo type is very feminine there are plenty of gay men who are very masculine (COUGH Neil Patrick Harris I swear that guy's straight). I mean I'm gay do I look, sound, act the part I like to think not but I digress.
Wait wait wait Neil Patrick Harris is gay?
Exactly my fucking point.
It's not their fault, it's the other children's parents fault for bring up a bigot. It's kinda like being bullied because your race or height. You can't control it.
Holy fuck I just googled that.
You're not fucking kidding dude, Jesus.
Seb, how do you not know this?
Because he's Neil Goddamn Patrick Harris! He was a total stud in How I Met Your Mother! He was the older brother in Malcolm in the Middle!
Because he's Neil Goddamn Patrick Harris! He was a total stud in How I Met Your Mother! He was the older brother in Malcolm in the Middle!
When I found out a couples years ago, I wasn't too surprised.But that would mean that I'm gay.
It's always the hot ones that turn out to be gay.
But that would mean that I'm gay.
Shut up Tiger Guy, everyone knows furries can't be gay
Shut up Tiger Guy, everyone knows furries can't be gay>Furries
But that would mean that I'm gay.
I believe that the government shouldn't have anything to do with marriage. Especially if they're going to justify their reasons from the bible.
Devie, where the Hell do you live?Maybe not in your area, but in towns like King, North Carolina, it can get bad. Look up "In God We Trust?" on YouTube to understand what I'm talking about.
I live in North Carolina and I can assure you that it's not like that here.
Devie, where the Hell do you live?
I live in North Carolina and I can assure you that it's not like that here.
I dont think gays should be allowed to marry...So? Being a brony is weird, and you're one. It doesn't matter if it is 'weird'.
because marriage is between a man and a woman and between two men is weird
i mean, how could you have a baby? every animal in the world needs a male and female to mate and those that happen to be gay dont live on to pass their genes, so why should people be different?There are more than 100 species of animals show homosexual behavior. It's a shame that the most advanced one is the only one discriminating against it.
i know people have different opinion and might not agree with me but i really dont think gays couples should be allowed to have a ceremony that was traditionally for a man and womanActually in several ancient civilizations (Ancient Greece, Ancient Rome, and Native American Tribes (They were actually declared holy and sacred)). They have for about 2000 years. Why don't people just let them be?
There are more than 100 species of animals show homosexual behavior. It's a shame that the most advanced one is the only one discriminating against it.
those 100 species of animals arent smart enough to know what is right and whats not they only have urges>Brony
those 100 species of animals arent smart enough to know what is right and whats not they only have urges._.
>Brony
>love and tolerate
>gays can't marry because that is WEIRD!
>no face can describe my emotions
actually youk now what, your right. i shouldnt be discriminating gays, especially on a forumI like how supportive you are of your own opinions.
can a mod remove this please
actually youk now what, your right. i shouldnt be discriminating gays, especially on a forumIt's not about that, you haven't said they're bad or anything, just that they're weird. It's your reasoning what I find strange. How, being a part of such a group (MLP), you reject same sex marriage because it's weird.
can a mod remove this please
I dont think gays should be allowed to marry...LOL
because marriage is between a man and a woman and between two men is weird, and not the norm. i mean, how could you have a baby? every animal in the world needs a male and female to mate and those that happen to be gay dont live on to pass their genes, so why should people be different?
i know people have different opinion and might not agree with me but i really dont think gays couples should be allowed to have a ceremony that was traditionally for a man and woman
It's not about that, you haven't said they're bad or anything, just that they're weird. It's your reasoning what I find strange. How, being a part of such a group (MLP), you reject same sex marriage because it's weird.
i didnt think MLP = homosexuality or anything related to that..... althogh i am not a brony or anything, mlp(bronys) just seemed to be a joking/statement of not being afraid to be silly..
marriage is between a man and a woman and between two men is weird, and not the norm.
He isn't saying it is, he is saying that he has not right to call anything "weird" or "not normal" because he does something that is equally weird and abnormal. He pretty much contradicts himself making whatever point he was trying to make, invalid.No, what I said was that saying you can't do something JUST BECAUSE it is not normal, since it's not normal to watch MLP within male gender roles, for example.
In a sense, Nothing CAN be normal, in one prespective or another whatever it is can seem weird.My phys ed teacher once told me there's no average size of dick.
For example; Some people like football and think people are weird for not liking it,
Some people can't stand football and think people are weird FOR liking it
So in a way normal is impossible to achieve makings something legal or not because it's "Weird" isn't right, we might as well outlaw eating meat because vegetarians think it's weird and hate when people eat meat making it abnormal for them.
In a sense, Nothing CAN be normal, in one prespective or another whatever it is can seem weird.
For example; Some people like football and think people are weird for not liking it,
Some people can't stand football and think people are weird FOR liking it
So in a way normal is impossible to achieve makings something legal or not because it's "Weird" isn't right, we might as well outlaw eating meat because vegetarians think it's weird and hate when people eat meat making it abnormal for them.
we arent weird, we're just like any other dedicated fanbase. they can be obessed at times too, but no one ever harrasses them about it and calls them out on being "weird" and not "part of the norm"
love and tolerate, that's what everyone should be doing
My phys ed teacher once told me there's no average size of dick.this is my new sig
Bitch, there is. You measure a lot of dick, divide it by the amount of dick you measure, multiply by 100 and bam. You've got an average.
What I'm saying is being normal isn't a myth lol.
honestly i find the thought of homosexual intercourse disgusting, but as long as its not hurting anyone or is violating any law or constitutional amendment, then I don't see any problem with gay marriage.
Never seen two male cats getting it on, so it certainly isn't natural. That said I think as everybody's minds are different (physque, confidence, upbringing, religion, optimism/pessimism) and certain types of people have more of a chance of having feelings towards those of the same sex.Haha, no. It's like saying "I have never seen two guys having sex, therefore gays don't exist."
honestly i find the thought of homosexual intercourse disgusting, but as long as its not hurting anyone or is violating any law or constitutional amendment, then I don't see any problem with gay marriage.
Haha, no. It's like saying "I have never seen two guys having sex, therefore gays don't exist."
So if homosexuality was illegal, you'd want it to stay that way?
I'm fairly certain that it was a federal decision to go to war.
Never seen two male cats getting it on, so it certainly isn't natural. That said I think as everybody's minds are different (physque, confidence, upbringing, religion, optimism/pessimism) and certain types of people have more of a chance of having feelings towards those of the same sex.
I dont care, if two people of the same gender love each other then so be it.
I dont have any problems with gays, just in a way this is...creepy?
Another... BUMP!