Regarding some rules in TTT

[Travelsonic]

While we're on the subject of rules:

Seems like an issue is coming up - for some, myself included - regarding baiting.  Had a few brief and semi-quasi heated arguments over whether or not certain things were baiting - primarily a non-Detective, non-Traitor destroying a health station without the Detective's go-ahead (while D(s) is/are alive, of course).  Somebody does this, I kill them, they end up being Inno, I get pissed, they herp derp about it not being baiting, I resist the urge to punch out my computer monitor.

Apparently some people fucking believe it isn't baiting to do that.  Really.   

[memo3300]

http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,7835.0.html


unkarmable prop killing, pre round killing, some asshole stading with a cup in a door and people can't pass it...


prop pushing just brings to much problems.

[Sabb]

While we're on the subject of rules:

Seems like an issue is coming up - for some, myself included - regarding baiting.  Had a few brief and semi-quasi heated arguments over whether or not certain things were baiting - primarily a non-Detective, non-Traitor destroying a health station without the Detective's go-ahead (while D(s) is/are alive, of course).  Somebody does this, I kill them, they end up being Inno, I get pissed, they herp derp about it not being baiting, I resist the urge to punch out my computer monitor.

Apparently some people fucking believe it isn't baiting to do that.  Really.   

It's just people being assholes. I honestly can't even care about that, if you're gullible enough to keep killing people for destroying the health station, then that's your problem. Don't mean to sound offensive about it, but that's how the game's played. Sure it's a total asshole move to do, but people are always going to do it. Unless karma loss is implemented to destroying a health station.

[memo3300]

While we're on the subject of rules:

Seems like an issue is coming up - for some, myself included - regarding baiting.  Had a few brief and semi-quasi heated arguments over whether or not certain things were baiting - primarily a non-Detective, non-Traitor destroying a health station without the Detective's go-ahead (while D(s) is/are alive, of course).  Somebody does this, I kill them, they end up being Inno, I get pissed, they herp derp about it not being baiting, I resist the urge to punch out my computer monitor.

Apparently some people fucking believe it isn't baiting to do that.  Really.   

most of times (when i used to play TTT) i used to heal with the hp station and then destroy it if i allredy had fighthed with a traitor in that round

[Travelsonic]

f you're gullible enough to keep killing people for destroying the health station, then that's your problem.

... so, it's my fault because I kill somebody for doing something a T would do, when he is neither D, nor authorized by a D to do it, nor proven [and/or authorized on top of that]?  If I read that correcrtly, nice logic there. 

[memo3300]

... so, it's my fault because I kill somebody for doing something a T would do, when he is neither D, nor authorized by a D to do it, nor proven [and/or authorized on top of that]?  If I read that correcrtly, nice logic there. 

it isn't like you would get punished for doing so...


I mean, some maps got amazing spots for camping, just stand in there and when someone aims at you it means that he got a radar wich equals a traitor wich means KOS...

I know that method could end up killing an innocent in a stupid way, but still I do it knowing the risks.

[Shockah]

Can we just leave it at, "Up to the admin/vip present at the time"?

[[TTPN] ShadowMoon]

Can we just leave it at, "Up to the admin/vip present at the time"?

Hm....
Nope.

[Deacon]

Hm....
Nope.

Then I'm afraid you will never be satisfied. That is how things work here.

[Ἆxule]

Not much a VIP can do anyways.
"You rdm detectibe?!?! 10min ban!"
"You knived T buddy! Bad boy! 10min ban!"

and so it goes.

[Deathie]

Can we just leave it at, "Up to the admin/vip present at the time"?

This is what I keep telling people when they go "BUT THIS ADMIN SAID ____"

I think it'd be a horrible idea to set up a baseline for what admins can ban for and how long, mainly due to how each specific situation is different, and SHOULD be left up to the admins judgement.

[memo3300]

don't unkarmable prop kill, don't pre round kill someone.

i find those 2 unfair, after that for me it is ok.

[[TTPN] ShadowMoon]

don't unkarmable prop kill, don't pre round kill someone.

i find those 2 unfair, after that for me it is ok.

You see guys, some maps like crummy cradle, when there are more than 2 AFKs..
Tom / anybody who trying to prop kill them, AFKs will somehow stack/goomba each other, damaging their karma during the procedure.
So, in retrospection, i still disagree with prop killing AFKs.

[Tezuni]

I think it'd be a horrible idea to set up a baseline for what admins can ban for and how long, mainly due to how each specific situation is different, and SHOULD be left up to the admins judgement.

yeah I agree with this because most of the time admins/vips do make the right decision

[[TTPN] ShadowMoon]

yeah I agree with this because most of the time admins/vips do make the right decision

Yeah "most of the time". But still.. Not all decision are right..