[DICUSSION] New VIP Application Process

[coolzeldad]

Hello all,

There has been a new proposal for the method to approving VIPs.

I think that the new method has an opportune time to be tested.

The Long Version:

There are some scenarios where the current system fails in its effort to standardize the process for fairness.

This new application process is designed to help remove some of the pitfalls of the current system.

Essentially there will be no list of active admins. However, the seven day approval time will remain.

The whole process depends on the significance of admin responses.

This means that admin responses to applications require thorough and well detailed reasoning as to why the applicant should or should not be promoted.

This means that two forms of admin responses to applications will be ignored.

1. Short or inconclusive detail as to the suggested denial or approval of the applicant.

2. For any admin that does not post within the specified timeline, their potential vote will be ASSUMED NEUTRAL and have no effect on the application.

The applicant will be approved according to the overall significance to the total positive and negative admin responses.

The Short Version:

- Seven day application time remains
- No active VIP approval list
- VIPs approved based on the significance of the positive and negative admin responses
- Short or inconclusive admin posts will be ignored
- For any admin that does not vote on the applicant, their vote will be ASSUMED NEUTRAL.

Feel free to give your input on the proposal.

News post here ( http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,12089.0.html )

[Deacon]

I like it.
Now, will the temp servers be a testbed for this, or will the promotions carry over when we come back?

[Shockah]

I think this was a desperately needed change and this was the best way of going about that change, well done sir. However who will post these applications and will this change be effective immediately?

[Tezuni]

I think this sounds a lot more fair than the previous VIP application system.
Also yeah what deacon said, is this for temp only?

[Deathie]

I like it.
Now, will the temp servers be a testbed for this, or will the promotions carry over when we come back?

What we agreed on was to try it out for the temp servers, and if it works out, we could the system for the official servers.

[YomoFox]

- No active VIP approval list

what's this mean

[TehHank]

what's this mean

I think it means VIP's can't vote in VIP apps nao

[Mehis]

I think it means VIP's can't vote in VIP apps nao

No. Even if you're not very active on the forums or servers you can still vote, I think.

Anyway, I like that idea. I can't see anything bad in it.

[Prox]

What about the VIP votes? Will they be able to vote and will their votes still be considered?

[Don]

Before saying my opinion on this,

what would be the required admin votes?

I just don't see why we don't bring back the old system. It worked fine, except for a few fine exceptions (Roflcopter).

Also Prox, I fixed your post because it was super hard to read.

[ursus]

I am okay with this.

However, I think we need to have a concrete rule for approvals. If we allow admins to approve apps based on what they think the consensus is, we haven't made much of an improvement from the old system.

What I mean by concrete rule is, you require X amount of valid positive votes to be approved. Just so that there's no conflicts over people who think that a promotion was unjust and blame the admin who approved it.

[Shawn]

what's this mean

Its refering to the list that named all the Admins that can vote on VIP apps (The active admins)


Anyways what would this new system do with VIP votes now?

[○ Μαρία ○]

I guess it's best to try a new system for a change, but as others asked, what would this mean for VIP votes? I don't mean to sound dimwitted, but I am a bit confused; will we not be able to vote towards other VIP apps?

[Foofoojack]

Looks like it could be good to try it out, and fix anything that needs fixing.

Great idea anyway.

[Doctor Who]

VIPS votes were considered a part/full vote since then even though VIPS are suppose to give some details and support the app with positive or negative comments.