be like every other person and send an admin your application and stay telling everyone how you dont care to be vip, shows how much you care about being vip
i crash join ttt ._.
we DO need more vips, it's been brought up before that maybe we shouldn't demote vip's for every little mistake they make, and as far as i know that hasn't been shot down
Or inactivity...
Or inactivity...Demotion for inactivity is to show how many people are actually active VIPs.
Or inactivity...The fuck?
I go on TTT everyday...>_<>implying you are (or should be) VIPSpoiler (click to show/hide)
>implying you are (or should be) VIPI'm a VIP? :)
I'm a VIP? :)...derp.
...derp.:o
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You really wanted to let us know you do that, didn't you?Sorry that was actually directed towards Axule (who abandoned this thread) >_>...I'll edit it out...
Well I can be honest with you, even if you call in a VIP, you still need to prove your claims. At least with me, I wouldn't start a vote unless I saw the person do _______. People would call me in to kick a mass rdm'er but no one had proof, therefore I could do nothing.
The thing is, Axule, it is very uncommon to have someone who goes on constantly and is willing enough to respond to every situation there is. Even then, they would have to be a trusted member and would have to give up their freedom to play peacefully, and be obliged to respond to every little call for help. See what I'm getting at? Yes, there may be a couple of people willing to do that including me, but we have to gain VIP the right way, by proving that we honestly want it and never break the rules. If we didn't, it would be like respected all over again, people would just be accepted out of the blue and abuse the shit out of their powers.
It's not like the current admins/VIPs don't want to help out, it's just that they want to have fun just like the rest of us without being bugged 24/7. I have, although, actually noticed that one certain admin is willing to do this and I am grateful to them.
Finally, the most you could do to help out your community is to attempt to report it and try the best you can to help out, even if it's something little, it still counts.
Even if I call a admin or a VIP, I still take screeny's of them doing it just in-case they pull the angel act on them, and then give them the link. (Steam screenshots are actually pretty useful.)
Thanks Hotgreen. That really helped : )
Sorry guys for this. I was just majorly focused on all that's been going on lately and how it's been iritating me, and not so much focus on the whole picture.
We DO need more VIPs but the VIP approval system is just way too strict (I would know).I would like to blame the promotion system for the lack of VIPs, and though the promotion system is a little strict, there are changes being made... but the truth is that there just aren't enough people that are good candidates for VIP.
I would like to blame the promotion system for the lack of VIPs, and though the promotion system is a little strict, there are changes being made... but the truth is that there just aren't enough people that are good candidates for VIP.
There's only a very small handful - 2 or 3 people at most who deserve to be VIP and who aren't IMO.
Well it's not like admin where they could basically fuck everything up if one admin decides to snap. I say we occasionally make some random proletariat VIP and see how that works.I agree.
I agree.
Lets have a random VIP give away, the first 12 year old to say I gets VIP!
not what i meant, and i don't know whether or not that was satiricalI agree, Wolfie's a great candidate.
i mean somebody that we know, but isn't necessarily VIP
Like I've said, VIPs can't really do a server-wise subversive destructive feat like admins can. An admin can (as far as I know) permaban everybody on the server at once, ban other admins, essentially make Coolz have to restart the server.So because they can't cause as much trouble as admin, it should be given out for test drives?
I'm not asking for VIP, although I will apply in December.
So because they can't cause as much trouble as admin, it should be given out for test drives?
I can't agree with that.
Like I've said, VIPs can't really do a server-wise subversive destructive feat like admins can. An admin can (as far as I know) permaban everybody on the server at once, ban other admins, essentially make Coolz have to restart the server.
I'm not asking for VIP, although I will apply in December.
So because they can't cause as much trouble as admin, it should be given out for test drives?
I can't agree with that.
Yeah, this is actually pretty much true. If someone becomes a VIP and they do bad, they could take it away from them.You would think.
I don't want the current approval system changed though. I'm just putting it out there that it's true that they can just take potential candidates, give em VIP, put em on close watch, and see if they do well.
We still wouldn't give it out to any old person, we would just give it to some people who a few others think are potential candidates and keep them under SEVERE watch. Of course, if there is no others VIPs or admins on, someone can just record the VIP doing something bad.
Like I said before, the current approval system is just fine.
EDIT:ffs Seb, stop beating me to the punch
You would think.
You would think.
Also, if you think the current approval system is fine, why are you backing up this idea so much?
you didn't answer my questionWhat I meant is that it's hardly ever that simple.
I'm totally for this.
Isn't this why the thread was starterd anyways?
the small number of VIP's for some servers.
What I meant is that it's hardly ever that simple.
no this thread was created because you wanted vip
that is all that i obtained from the original post
if i didnt make it clear in an earlier post, no you will not get it
Cool, we solved the riddle. Now may you please close the topic to prevent any further confusion?