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Title: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: coolzeldad on March 28, 2011, 12:31:23 AM
Well, Discussion seems like the proper place for this.

Anyway, Workin' out a deal with Xexxar, he wants to play the servers again.

Previously banned for: Hacking, Threatening to attack the servers, Poor attitude to members and admins, Asking to be banned/never return/etc.

What do you think?

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Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: [Valor]iPounce on March 28, 2011, 12:33:54 AM
nigra nids unban, I miss old zs fags. Give him one more little chance.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Xexxar on March 28, 2011, 12:35:50 AM
Please do not post if you don't even know me. I really don't need kids reading this screaming hacker.



Point being, if you are / should be reading this then let me say, Hey, haven't seen you in a while.

Like I said, I just want to play again. I want to just leave what happened behind us all. I am curious to see the changes.

I hope you all look at this as a serious, "Hey, maybe he wants to play again." and not "ONCE A HAXER ALWAYS A HAXER!!!!!"

Please remember the old Xexxar and vote for me to come back. I really have changed from my previous faggy position.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: YomoFox on March 28, 2011, 12:47:57 AM
Please remember the old Xexxar and vote for me to come back. I really have changed from my previous faggy position.

You said "Yomo is not welcomed to rnd"
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Xexxar on March 28, 2011, 12:50:00 AM
The old old Xexxar.

... Which really doesn't help. Sorry Yomo I never really liked you. But hey now its in the open.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Moo on March 28, 2011, 12:50:55 AM
[SCREAMS]: HACKER
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Xexxar on March 28, 2011, 12:51:52 AM
Run cows run... cows got guns...

Wait, FUCUUUCKKKK

*gets shot by moo*
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Deathie on March 28, 2011, 12:52:14 AM
I do remember all the chat logs though, saying you'd spoof coolz'd ID and shit.

But I also think everyone deserves a second chance.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Xexxar on March 28, 2011, 12:54:10 AM
I dont believe I ever did that.

I am going to bed. Will have to see how this turns out in the morning.

EDIT: I said that but I never did it.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Deathie on March 28, 2011, 12:55:24 AM
I dont believe I ever did that.
Quote
12:46 PM - Xexxar: you have no idea
12:46 PM - Xexxar: how much I am holding back
12:46 PM - Xexxar: to hack rnd
12:46 PM - Tiger Guy: why
12:46 PM - Tiger Guy: why
12:47 PM - Xexxar: cause there douches
12:47 PM - Xexxar: all except for ruban
12:47 PM - Xexxar: and yeah
12:47 PM - Xexxar: ff
12:47 PM - Xexxar: screw it
12:47 PM - Xexxar: Im going to just relieve some stress
12:47 PM - Xexxar: on zs
Xexxar has changed their name to Hacker.
12:48 PM - Hacker: derp
12:49 PM - Hacker: im so tempted to spoof coolz's steam id
12:49 PM - Hacker: and name
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: bipolardiz on March 28, 2011, 02:13:24 AM
hmmmm I dont really remember you but something inside says to give you another chance. But to just say a simple search on google shows a lot of bans related to you involving hacks and stuff. Not sure if they are all you but a lot relate to Steam_0:1:22597435  and involve sethhax and baconbot. If he has changed more power to him and good to have him back but otherwise :omgwtfband:. kk well thats my input.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Don on March 28, 2011, 02:18:34 AM
After what he's done before leaving?
Haha, no way.

Even though he says he has changed, others have said that before and haven't changed one damn bit.
I am all for second chances, but in this case, nope.

I don't think someone that threatened to hack members, forums and servers of RND, DDoSd it and used hacks on the server should just be unbanned because "he wants to play again".
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Osme on March 28, 2011, 02:24:22 AM

But I also think everyone deserves a second chance.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Cheesicle on March 28, 2011, 05:13:26 AM
The old old Xexxar.

... Which really doesn't help. Sorry Yomo I never really liked you. But hey now its in the open.

WHAT THE FLYING DIARRHEA STAIN HOW CAN YOU NOT LIKE YOMO, HIS SEXY VOICE, AND SHITTY GRAMMAR???!?!?!?!!!??

Reason:

Coolz not make popcorn
so popcorn angry
atacking

SERIOUSLY HOW CAN YOU NOT LIKE A PERSON THAT POSTS THINGS LIKE THAT?
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Hitman on March 28, 2011, 06:55:16 AM
But I also think everyone deserves a second chance.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Mr. Franklin on March 28, 2011, 07:21:00 AM
The early early Xexxar i remember, when he first joined, he was very polite and quite, and it was like that for over a year, then he joined in with the kid crowd and started to act, a bit weird. Over the months it became worse and worse, and the years past, he got banned for his actions. I now see that he was overcome by visual peer pressure. The people from last year and this year, are very different, and less, trollish you can say. So in my opinion and my response, i say he can come back if he wishes so.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Seb on March 28, 2011, 07:22:28 AM
Xexxar! What the fuck UP, dude?!

:thumbsup: A ZS game without Xexxar isn't a ZS game. ZS is now populated by minges, little kids, idiots, and Kleiners. Let's take it back, huh?
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: » Magic « on March 28, 2011, 08:59:42 AM
You called my girlfriend a fat ugly bitch yet you fucking expect me to accept your motherfucking apology
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Frank on March 28, 2011, 09:55:55 AM
I was like "Okay." until I started seeing some too many insults. Such as "I'm retarded" "faggy position" "huge nigger faggot" so yeah.

Fuck you very much, Xexxar. And then shove it up your ass.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: coolzeldad on March 28, 2011, 10:49:41 AM
You called my girlfriend a fat ugly bitch yet you fucking expect me to accept your motherfucking apology

He isn't unbanned from the servers.

This was the point of the thread.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Xexxar on March 28, 2011, 10:57:35 AM
WHAT THE FLYING DIARRHEA STAIN HOW CAN YOU NOT LIKE YOMO, HIS SEXY VOICE, AND SHITTY GRAMMAR???!?!?!?!!!??

SERIOUSLY HOW CAN YOU NOT LIKE A PERSON THAT POSTS THINGS LIKE THAT?

Prolly cause I cannot understand what he is saying. And I haven't even heard his voice ever.


Frank anything I have said as in the past. I apologize sincerely.

I was like "Okay." until I started seeing some too many insults. Such as "I'm retarded" "faggy position" "huge nigger faggot" so yeah.

Fuck you very much, Xexxar. And then shove it up your ass.

Like I said, I really just want to look the past and forget it. Seriously, I was really not a good person back then, I perhaps didnt need to insult myself as that doesn't support any argument and makes me look dumb. I hope you understand that I only used those to words to point out how bad I used to be and try to point out my flaws from before.

Magic, I should have bit my tongue. Sorry about that. I really am.

Also All those hacking bans were from other zs servers that i used to hack A LOT on because I really only liked rnd. And I hacked on perp servers because they all suck at protecting themselves. And mad kid gets mad, laughter occurs.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Seb on March 28, 2011, 11:08:20 AM
I say e give him a chance, people.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: » Magic « on March 28, 2011, 11:16:21 AM
Incase you didn't realise I don't forgive easily
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Frank on March 28, 2011, 11:35:44 AM
Prolly cause I cannot understand what he is saying. And I haven't even heard his voice ever.


Frank anything I have said as in the past. I apologize sincerely.

Like I said, I really just want to look the past and forget it. Seriously, I was really not a good person back then, I perhaps didnt need to insult myself as that doesn't support any argument and makes me look dumb. I hope you understand that I only used those to words to point out how bad I used to be and try to point out my flaws from before.

Magic, I should have bit my tongue. Sorry about that. I really am.

Also All those hacking bans were from other zs servers that i used to hack A LOT on because I really only liked rnd. And I hacked on perp servers because they all suck at protecting themselves. And mad kid gets mad, laughter occurs.
So you're saying that having mental disabilities, being black, and gay are flaws?

Please, most sincerely, get the fuck out.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Seb on March 28, 2011, 11:43:55 AM
So you're saying that having mental disabilities, being black, and gay are flaws?

Please, most sincerely, get the fuck out.

He realizes everything he said was wrong. Why can't we just accept that? He apologizes for everything.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Frank on March 28, 2011, 11:45:39 AM
He realizes everything he said was wrong. Why can't we just accept that? He apologizes for everything.
"Hey dude fuck you piece of shit asshole nigger retard faggot cunt fat bitch dipshit."

Oh, sorry.


I don't see it that way.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Carp on March 28, 2011, 11:46:09 AM
I remember playing with you on perp and you were a dick but w/e i can get past that.

Xexxar was fun to play with a long time ago on zs, and should be unbanned. He obviously just wants to play ZS, myppl8 got a second chance why not Xexxar.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Seb on March 28, 2011, 11:47:02 AM
"Hey dude fuck you piece of shit asshole nigger retard faggot cunt fat bitch dipshit."

Oh, sorry.


I don't see it that way.

We all spew out those words randomly when we're pissed. How else is he supposed to show how much he despises what he said?
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Xexxar on March 28, 2011, 11:47:07 AM
Sigh... Those derogatory words at these days in age don't mean what they actually mean. I look at the word by the connotation given to it.

And btw, being mentally retarded technically is a flaw. As for being gay and black, I shouldn't have used those words. Nor retarded.

But seriously, this is no time to just drill me on word choice. That is the only thing you have brought up.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: » Magic « on March 28, 2011, 11:48:30 AM
I remember playing with you on perp and you were a dick but w/e i can get past that.

Xexxar was fun to play with a long time ago on zs, and should be unbanned. He obviously just wants to play ZS, myppl8 got a second chance why not Xexxar.

http://sourcebans.randomgs.com/index.php?p=banlist&searchText=myppl&Submit= (http://sourcebans.randomgs.com/index.php?p=banlist&searchText=myppl&Submit=)
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Don on March 28, 2011, 11:49:00 AM
He realizes everything he said was wrong. Why can't we just accept that? He apologizes for everything.
So you're saying we should unban all hackers, DDoSers and other people?
But of course.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Seb on March 28, 2011, 11:49:37 AM
Sigh... Those derogatory words at these days in age don't mean what they actually mean. I look at the word by the connotation given to it.

And btw, being mentally retarded technically is a flaw. As for being gay and black, I shouldn't have used those words. Nor retarded.

But seriously, this is no time to just drill me on word choice. That is the only thing you have brought up.

Exactly. I'm looking at Xexxar as a person and from my experiences with him, and I say we unban him.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Carp on March 28, 2011, 11:50:16 AM
So you're saying we should unban all hackers, DDoSers and other people?
But of course.

If they were known to the community, and apologize for it, they deserve a second chance imo.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Seb on March 28, 2011, 11:51:16 AM
So you're saying we should unban all hackers, DDoSers and other people?
But of course.

I'm not saying that. I was GOING to say something like what Carp just said:

If they were known to the community, and apologize for it, they deserve a second chance imo.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Frank on March 28, 2011, 11:54:08 AM
If they were known to the community, and apologize for it, they deserve a second chance imo.
So not so known people don't deserve a chance?
Your reasoning is both idiotic and not arbitrary at all.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: » Magic « on March 28, 2011, 11:54:51 AM
If they were known to the community, and apologize for it, they deserve a second chance imo.

>Krasher
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Mr. Franklin on March 28, 2011, 11:55:11 AM
If they were known to the community, and apologize for it, they deserve a second chance imo.

This is our prime example, we are talking about Xexxar, not anyone else. Stay on topic Don, and others :)
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Seb on March 28, 2011, 11:55:32 AM
So not so known people don't deserve a chance?
Your reasoning is both idiotic and not arbitrary at all.

Says the person denying somebody's apology via word choice alone.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Frank on March 28, 2011, 11:56:13 AM
Says the person denying somebody's apology via word choice alone.
Word choice alone?
:Don'savatar:
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Carp on March 28, 2011, 11:57:11 AM
>Krasher
Not known people who come in the server and hack are doing it to a random server, doing it to be a douche, and most likely won't apologize.

Frank leave the insults out please.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Seb on March 28, 2011, 11:57:25 AM
Word choice alone?
:Don'savatar:

I was like "Okay." until I started seeing some too many insults. Such as "I'm retarded" "faggy position" "huge nigger faggot" so yeah.

Fuck you very much, Xexxar. And then shove it up your ass.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Don on March 28, 2011, 11:58:54 AM
His was different he ddos'd which was attacking the server, and not known people who come in the server and hack are doing it to a random server, doing it to be a douche, and most likely won't apologize.

Huh?
Krasher never DDos'd the servers. He just hacked on them. And did some other stuff.
Xexxar did the same things, but threatened to hack everyone on RND and RND itself on top of that.
I don't see how simply pretending to be sorry for something should get you unbanned from something this huge.

... If we unban Xexxar, we might as well go ahead and unban hkill and Krasher.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: bipolardiz on March 28, 2011, 12:00:34 PM
I dont see the harm in letting him play during peak zs times. If he hax or something just godly perma banz. He seems sincere dispite him being unforgiven for past injustices. But Xexxar you must know that the past is never forgotten. Move on but never forget.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Mr. Franklin on March 28, 2011, 12:01:32 PM
Their is no reason to bring Hkill and Krasher in the matter, just Xexxar and his actions toward RnD and our response. Nothing else.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Xexxar on March 28, 2011, 12:01:43 PM
Huh?
Krasher never DDos'd the servers. He just hacked on them. And did some other stuff.
Xexxar did the same things, but threatened to hack everyone on RND and RND itself on top of that.
I don't see how simply pretending to be sorry for something should get you unbanned from something this huge.

... If we unban Xexxar, we might as well go ahead and unban hkill and Krasher.

Actually I didnt do that. I only threatened rnd itself.

But ok.

And I never really ever hacked on rnd. Cept maybe right before leaving.

Also its been a damn 6 months. People change.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Carp on March 28, 2011, 12:02:45 PM
Huh?
Krasher never DDos'd the servers. He just hacked on them. And did some other stuff.
Xexxar did the same things, but threatened to hack everyone on RND and RND itself on top of that.
I don't see how simply pretending to be sorry for something should get you unbanned from something this huge.

... If we unban Xexxar, we might as well go ahead and unban hkill and Krasher.
Ya i don't know what I was thinking lol.

But I'm pretty sure that Krasher or hkill haven't been as persistent as Xexxar to be unbanned.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Seb on March 28, 2011, 12:02:49 PM
Huh?
Krasher never DDos'd the servers. He just hacked on them. And did some other stuff.
Xexxar did the same things, but threatened to hack everyone on RND and RND itself on top of that.
I don't see how simply pretending to be sorry for something should get you unbanned from something this huge.

... If we unban Xexxar, we might as well go ahead and unban hkill and Krasher.

Hence, we give him a second chance. He seems honest and sincere enough about it, we give hima  chance. He blows it off, he's forever perma'd. Simple enough.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Don on March 28, 2011, 12:03:36 PM
But I'm pretty sure that Krasher or hkill haven't been as persistent as Xexxar to be unbanned.
They also haven't told everyone in RND how much of a cunt they are and how they're about to hack/spoof their SteamIDs.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Frank on March 28, 2011, 12:05:14 PM
Let's free Charlie Mason. After all it's been a long time. Let's say okay to Nazis because it's been a long time and some have apologized.

Okay, Ku Klux, you can come out now of prison. Feel free to join us.



It's the purpose behind the words.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Xexxar on March 28, 2011, 12:05:57 PM
They also haven't told everyone in RND how much of a cunt they are and how they're about to hack/spoof their SteamIDs.

Again your lying.


I never said that.


Let's free Charlie Mason. After all it's been a long time. Let's say okay to Nazis because it's been a long time and some have apologized.

Okay, Ku Klux, you can come out now of prison. Feel free to join us.


I know how to exaggerate too.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Seb on March 28, 2011, 12:07:10 PM
Let's free Charlie Mason. After all it's been a long time. Let's say okay to Nazis because it's been a long time and some have apologized.

Okay, Ku Klux, you can come out now of prison. Feel free to join us.

It's the purpose behind the words.

Hence, we give him a second chance. He seems honest and sincere enough about it, we give him a  chance. He blows it off, he's forever perma'd. Simple enough.

Not to mention we should keep a watchful eye on him.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Don on March 28, 2011, 12:07:42 PM
Again your lying.
I never said that.
http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,974.0.html (http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,974.0.html)
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Xexxar on March 28, 2011, 12:09:12 PM
I never denied saying I would take down the box, which I decided not to do, I said that I was going to spoof players steam ids.

But thank you for bringing up information that is completely irrelevant to what I said.




Internet drama at its max.

All I want to do is play some games and not talk about this bullshit. I just think if you people really want to know if i should be unbanned, let me play for a day. That will tell you yes or no.

But thats for coolz to decide.

But honest people. If you want to dwell on the past then be my guest. You cant forget the past but you can ignore it.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Cable on March 28, 2011, 12:20:56 PM
Hackers are hackers.
People who do bad things should be treated badly.
Sure, You might regret it, But what's done is done.
My personal opinion is that he really should continue to stay banned.
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Give him one more chance i guess.
People change over time.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Seb on March 28, 2011, 12:24:02 PM
Hackers are hackers.
People who do bad things should be treated badly.
Sure, You might regret it, But what's done is done.
My personal opinion is that he really should continue to stay banned.
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Give him one more chance i guess.
People change over time.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Xexxar on March 28, 2011, 12:25:02 PM

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:P

ZSP IS SUPA L33T PWNERZ
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Seb on March 28, 2011, 12:35:50 PM
In all seriousness, seeing that he seems sincere enough, PLUS he's willing to apologize for everything he said and threatened to do, I think we should give him one more chance.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Deathie on March 28, 2011, 12:39:17 PM
Eh.

After thinking it over, I'm gonna have to agree with Don on this one.

If Xexxar is forgiven, and unbanned, so should Krasher and hkill.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Seb on March 28, 2011, 12:42:07 PM
Eh.

After thinking it over, I'm gonna have to agree with Don on this one.

If Xexxar is forgiven, and unbanned, so should Krasher and hkill.

Hkill was just retarded, and Krasher wouldn't come back even if we did unban him. Xexxar, however, is willing to make reparations.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Sabb on March 28, 2011, 12:42:51 PM
Since when does RND allow hackers and people that threaten the owner and members of the community allowed to play?
What happened happened, idgaf if you guys think he has changed in not even a year, he has a certain manor and way of thinking, and eventually shit will hit the fan again.
Xexxar was practically bipolar as well, he would sometimes be kind to people but then turn right around and start doing all the stupid shit he did.
Eventually he's going to just go back to the same attitude and repeat his actions.

Xexxar acted so incredibly juvenile on several occasions threatening DDoS to the sever and several other things I believe, with his jesus computer he doesn't stop boasting about. Someone the way Xexxar acted really shouldn't be forgiven so quick and easily, it's just not a good idea.

Also, idgaf if he seems sincere and apologizes, it's quite obvious he knows what he did was wrong, but it doesn't mean he won't do it again. I believe myppl has apologized as well.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Xexxar on March 28, 2011, 12:44:21 PM
And yet somehow myppl got 4 chances. Don't you think I deserve one?


Eventually he's going to just go back to the same attitude and repeat his actions.


Doubt that one.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Don on March 28, 2011, 12:45:33 PM
And yet somehow myppl got 4 chances. Don't you think I deserve one?
With the difference that myppl only ever abused respected without having DDoS'd/hacked/threatened to DDoS the servers.

And Seb finally shut up, all you did so far in this thread is quoting others that have said he should get another chance while repeating your shitty argument over and over again. Seriously.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: » Magic « on March 28, 2011, 12:45:38 PM
And yet somehow myppl got 4 chances. Don't you think I deserve one?

Doubt that one.

myppl was being trolled ,-,
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Sabb on March 28, 2011, 12:46:55 PM
And yet somehow myppl got 4 chances. Don't you think I deserve one?
Did myppl threaten to DDoS and hack as much as you had?
Well, he might have threatened DDoS idk, but one way or another you can't compare myppl having more chances to your situation considering you did a total different degree of shit.
EDIT:
And yet somehow myppl got 4 chances. Don't you think I deserve one?

Doubt that one.
I'm pretty sure everyone has experienced what I was trying to explain one way or another.
It's your way of thinking that was the problem.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Carp on March 28, 2011, 12:48:19 PM
Coolz, I think the decision is up to you lol, the opinions vary so much in the community.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Seb on March 28, 2011, 12:48:48 PM
With the difference that myppl only ever abused respected without having DDoS'd/hacked/threatened to DDoS the servers.

And Seb finally shut up, all you did so far in this thread is quoting others that have said he should get another chance while repeating your shitty argument over and over again. Seriously.

I just think he should get another chance. I don't know why everybody rage-cums and -1s me when I say this person was a friend of mine and I think he should be unbanned, but I'm all for second chances.

inb4more-1s
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: » Magic « on March 28, 2011, 12:49:45 PM
I just think he should get another chance. I don't know why everybody rage-cums and -1s me when I say this person was a friend of mine and I think he should be unbanned, but I'm all for second chances.

inb4more-1s

He was my friend too until certain words were said and actions were taken against me
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Mr. Franklin on March 28, 2011, 12:49:59 PM
The choice for Xexxar to be allowed on the servers again is up to us, you saw on the first post, that Coolz said he did not care, but he cared if other people did not want him here, or if they did. It is a community response, not a Coolz response.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Xexxar on March 28, 2011, 12:50:14 PM
Did myppl threaten to DDoS and hack as much as you had?
Well, he might have threatened DDoS idk, but one way or another you can't compare myppl having more chances to your situation considering you did a total different degree of shit.

Do you honestly still think that I am going to do anything if I spent this fucking time trying to get unbanned.

Why would I waste a day of my life trying to get unbanned from a server just to get re banned when I could troll a different server?

The choice for Xexxar to be allowed on the servers again is up to us, you saw on the first post, that Coolz said he did not care, but he cared if other people did not want him here, or if they did. It is a community response, not a Coolz response.

Ultimately, cools will have to decide. Its fairly even at this point I would say.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Sabb on March 28, 2011, 12:50:46 PM
I just think he should get another chance. I don't know why everybody rage-cums and -1s me when I say this person was a friend of mine and I think he should be unbanned, but I'm all for second chances.

inb4more-1s
Krasher was a friend of mine, lets unban him!

I honestly did like Xexxar before his poor actions as well, I thought he was pretty nice and cool, but I didn't see half the shit he actually dished out.

EDIT:
Do you honestly still think that I am going to do anything if I spent this fucking time trying to get unbanned.

Why would I waste a day of my life trying to get unbanned from a server just to get re banned when I could troll a different server?

Ultimately, cools will have to decide. Its fairly even at this point I would say.
It's not like that, I don't think that you have the intention of going back to the server hacking or disrupting the server or anything, I think that if you're confronted with something you don't like, after trying hard at it or something, that you would end up resorting to bad decisions again.

Also, I don't really consider half of your "attempts" to get unbanned any actual effort.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Carp on March 28, 2011, 12:53:23 PM
I would kind of be pissed if he didn't get unbanned based off of this thread alone, because the only people who are active in zs in this thread are really seb, cable, franklin, possibly magic, and me.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Xexxar on March 28, 2011, 12:54:00 PM
Krasher was a friend of mine, lets unban him!

I honestly did like Xexxar before his poor actions as well, I thought he was pretty nice and cool, but I didn't see half the shit he actually dished out.

The point is. I never actually did anything. I seriously was going to but I stopped. Cause there was a lot of friends that I have come to know and appreciate. A community that did some amazing things. I never really knew why I wanted to leave. Partly because I was tired of zs "bad people" ( gotta stop myself, frank might be watching"

But seriously. I really dont want to do anything again. I just would like to hang out with you people again and do what this community is best at. Gaming.

And if you really hate my ass, most likely you dont play on zs. ( You wont see me! :D? )
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Seb on March 28, 2011, 12:56:09 PM
I would kind of be pissed if he didn't get unbanned based off of this thread alone, because the only people who are active in zs in this thread are really seb, cable, franklin, possibly magic, and me.

Exactly. Him being unbanned is not the concern of most of the people in this forum because he only played ZS. This should be based on Cable's, Franklin's, Carp's, Magic's, and my own opinion. And only Magic has a negative opinion.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Sabb on March 28, 2011, 12:56:13 PM
I would kind of be pissed if he didn't get unbanned based off of this thread alone, because the only people who are active in zs in this thread are really seb, cable, franklin, possibly magic, and me.
We don't have to be active in ZS to have a proper opinion on the matter considering it was an issue with the majority of the community, not just him causing problem on ZS. The hacking isn't the only problem.

I don't really think Xexxar should be on the forums either.
EDIT:
Exactly. Him being unbanned is not the concern of most of the people in this forum because he only played ZS. This should be based on Cable's, Franklin's, Carp's, Magic's, and my own opinion. And only Magic has a negative opinion.
Uhuh, read above.
Seb I don't want to insult you, but you really don't have your own opinion on the matter.
You just want Xexxar unbanned because you're his friend, and are just agreeing with what ever anyone else says because again, you don't have a proper view on the matter.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Don on March 28, 2011, 12:57:38 PM
I would kind of be pissed if he didn't get unbanned based off of this thread alone, because the only people who are active in zs in this thread are really seb, cable, franklin, possibly magic, and me.
I don't see how only votes of people that have been active in ZS should matter in this.
He threatened the RND community as a whole, not only the people on ZS.
Besides, I used to play ZS quite a lot, just stopped the past months because I got bored of it.

Exactly. Him being unbanned is not the concern of most of the people in this forum because he only played ZS. This should be based on Cable's, Franklin's, Carp's, Magic's, and my own opinion. And only Magic has a negative opinion.
...
Get out.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Xexxar on March 28, 2011, 12:59:10 PM
I don't see how only votes of people that have been active in ZS should matter in this.
He threatened the RND community as a whole, not only the people on ZS.
Besides, I used to play ZS quite a lot, just stopped the past months because I got bored of it.

The reason is you didn't know me so why would you say unban me based on the credentials available.

Which is the point.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Don on March 28, 2011, 01:00:01 PM
The reason is you didn't know me so why would you say unban me based on the credentials available.

Which is the point.
How didn't I know you?
I played shitloads with you and saw how you acted on both the servers and the forums ...
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Xexxar on March 28, 2011, 01:00:59 PM
How didn't I know you?
I played shitloads with you and saw how you acted on both the servers and the forums ...

Never remember seeing you on zs.

And you didnt know me from before I was a troll.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Seb on March 28, 2011, 01:01:25 PM
Don, I've NEVER seen you on ZS.


EVER.


And beleive me, I play ZS fairly frequently.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: » Magic « on March 28, 2011, 01:01:33 PM
Only Magic has a negative opinion.

>Don
>Sab
>Frank

dun forget them
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Cable on March 28, 2011, 01:02:40 PM
>Don
>Sab
>Frank

dun forget them
and cab...
Somewhat negative
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Xexxar on March 28, 2011, 01:02:52 PM
>Don
>Sab
>Frank

dun forget them

Those 3 and you are more inactive than anyone else that knew me from zs. Except for maybe sab. And he doesn't like me cause I used to kill him. :P
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Sabb on March 28, 2011, 01:03:12 PM
The point is. I never actually did anything. I seriously was going to but I stopped. Cause there was a lot of friends that I have come to know and appreciate. A community that did some amazing things. I never really knew why I wanted to leave. Partly because I was tired of zs "bad people" ( gotta stop myself, frank might be watching"

But seriously. I really dont want to do anything again. I just would like to hang out with you people again and do what this community is best at. Gaming.

And if you really hate my ass, most likely you dont play on zs. ( You wont see me! :D? )
Trust me, I don't hate you. I had some good times with you long time ago.
I'm just not convinced you have actually changed, cause I don't know if that's realistically possible.
Clearly, you've changed your attitude since your blow up, but again, it wasn't so bad until those threats started coming around, and when confronted with something you don't like, I'm pretty certain it wouldn't take long for history to repeat itself.
These posts I'm making aren't to offend you either, I really don't hate you.
I just really don't think you should be back onto the servers. And forum.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Don on March 28, 2011, 01:04:10 PM
Those 3 and you are more inactive than anyone else that knew me from zs. Except for maybe sab. And he doesn't like me cause I used to kill him. :P
... inactive
what.
Now you're just making arguments up.

EDIT:
Anyway, I'm out of this. Fuck it.
This argument is over something ridiculously retarded that shouldn't even be up for consideration, and all it did so far and will continue to do is put a giant riff between the community, making everyone hate each other.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Seb on March 28, 2011, 01:04:23 PM
>Don
>Sab
>Frank

dun forget them


Out of the ZS players.



and cab...
Somewhat negative

You're okay with him getting a second chance. That, at least for now, counts as a positive opinion.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Xexxar on March 28, 2011, 01:04:44 PM
Trust me, I don't hate you. I had some good times with you long time ago.
I'm just not convinced you have actually changed, cause I don't know if that's realistically possible.
Clearly, you've changed your attitude since your blow up, but again, it wasn't so bad until those threats started coming around, and when confronted with something you don't like, I'm pretty certain it wouldn't take long for history to repeat itself.
These posts I'm making aren't to offend you either, I really don't hate you.
I just really don't think you should be back onto the servers. And forum.

Why dont you just let me play then. If you have any problems then ban me perm again.

Does that seem like a bad idea?
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Sabb on March 28, 2011, 01:05:03 PM
Those 3 and you are more inactive than anyone else that knew me from zs. Except for maybe sab. And he doesn't like me cause I used to kill him. :P
And now you're switching your argument up a bit because you can't think up a decent reply?
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Xexxar on March 28, 2011, 01:05:46 PM
And now you're switching your argument up a bit because you can't think up a decent reply?

wat?
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Carp on March 28, 2011, 01:05:50 PM
I don't see how only votes of people that have been active in ZS should matter in this.
He threatened the RND community as a whole, not only the people on ZS.
Besides, I used to play ZS quite a lot, just stopped the past months because I got bored of it.
...
Get out.

I'm just saying that we know Xexxar a bit better than you guys because we have been playing with him in the servers longer. Honestly I haven't seen you in ZS ever Don lol. I never said that only votes of people that have been active in ZS should matter that was what Seb said, I said I would be pissed if he didn't get unbanned from this thread alone. But in all seriousness this argument could go on all day, and I'm pretty sure nobody is changing their minds here. He made a few stupid threats to the server and got perma'd, and has spent 6 months trying to get unbanned, I think he has learned his lesson and we should keep a close eye on him, but I highly doubt he would do anything because I know he loves rnd.

edit: Don have you ever played in-game with xexxar?
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Frank on March 28, 2011, 01:06:22 PM
As a really long-playing user from this community, I think my opinion matters more than some others'. And as such, I have presenced Xexxar's behaviour on the forums and I've been told by more than reliable sources about his ZS behaviour and talks.

So yes. I don't want you here, and I speak for many when I say you should've never even tried to come back.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Cable on March 28, 2011, 01:07:32 PM
As a really long-playing user from this community, I think my opinion matters more than some others'. And as such, I have presenced Xexxar's behaviour on the forums and I've been told by more than reliable sources about his ZS behaviour and talks.

So yes. I don't want you here, and I speak for many when I say you should've never even tried to come back.
:yes:
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Mr. Franklin on March 28, 2011, 01:09:16 PM
... inactive
what.
Now you're just making arguments up.

know your arguments, he was stating an opinion. Besides, the only reason why he is replying in a negative way, is because you are talking to him in a negative way, if you want to truth out, think positive and post positive.


(AND MAN, every time i try to post, it interrupts me with that damn red warning )
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Seb on March 28, 2011, 01:09:45 PM
Lol, my respect as +108 before I went to this thread. I've noticed half of the -1s are when I countered somebody's argument and they got butthurt and -1'd it instead of being mature and typing an actual argument.

I say we get rid of the respect system guise.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Sabb on March 28, 2011, 01:09:57 PM
I'm just saying that we know Xexxar a bit better than you guys because we have been playing with him in the servers longer. Honestly I haven't seen you in ZS ever Don lol. I never said that only votes of people that have been active in ZS should matter that was what Seb said, I said I would be pissed if he didn't get unbanned from this thread alone. But in all seriousness this argument could go on all day, and I'm pretty sure nobody is changing their minds here. He made a few stupid threats to the server and got perma'd, and has spent 6 months trying to get unbanned, I think he has learned his lesson and we should keep a close eye on him, but I highly doubt he would do anything because I know he loves rnd.
@ beginning of that
You can't say that about me specifically, you know I played on Exiled with him a quite a bit.

Why dont you just let me play then. If you have any problems then ban me perm again.

Does that seem like a bad idea?
I would like to say yes, but I'm convinced that EVENTUALLY it will go bad.
It's always hell when stuff like that happens, because half of the community are incredibly over dramatic when shit happens, and arguments start flaring out between the community, and before you know it half the community hates each other.
I'm mostly referring to the majority of people that go on the TS channel.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Don on March 28, 2011, 01:10:58 PM
edit: Don have you ever played in-game with xexxar?
Yes, I have.
A lot.
I just never used to actually talk while playing since that was still when I was quite new in RND.

Lol, my respect as +108 before I went to this thread. I've noticed half of the -1s are when I countered somebody's argument and they got butthurt and -1'd it instead of being mature and typing an actual argument.
I say we get rid of the respect system guise.
I am -1ing you because all you do is quote people saying how much they want Xexxar unbanned without addressing any other arguments ...
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Xexxar on March 28, 2011, 01:11:31 PM
Sabbath what is the team speak info?
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Sabb on March 28, 2011, 01:12:40 PM
Lol, my respect as +108 before I went to this thread. I've noticed half of the -1s are when I countered somebody's argument and they got butthurt and -1'd it instead of being mature and typing an actual argument.

I say we get rid of the respect system guise.
I find that funny considering you post this right after -1'ing Frank for the exact reason.

Seb, you aren't being -1'd because you have a different opinion on the topic, you're being -1'd because your replies are stupid.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Seb on March 28, 2011, 01:12:44 PM
@ beginning of that
You can't say that about me specifically, you know I played on Exiled with him a quite a bit.
I would like to say yes, but I'm convinced that EVENTUALLY it will go bad.
It's always hell when stuff like that happens, because half of the community are incredibly over dramatic when shit happens, and arguments start flaring out between the community, and before you know it half the community hates each other.
I'm mostly referring to the majority of people that go on the TS channel.

I'm the only person that loves everybody in this community.

Ironically, I'm the one getting hated on the most right now.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Xexxar on March 28, 2011, 01:13:18 PM

You can't say that about me specifically, you know I played on Exiled with him a quite a bit.


Wat I did? I do not remember ever ever ever seeing you on exiled. And all I do on exiled is troll now days.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Frank on March 28, 2011, 01:14:48 PM
know your arguments, he was stating an opinion. Besides, the only reason why he is replying in a negative way, is because you are talking to him in a negative way, if you want to truth out, think positive and post positive.


(AND MAN, every time i try to post, it interrupts me with that damn red warning )
opinion=/=argument
argument==unbiased
opinion==subjective

If it's an opinion, it's not really useful.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Sabb on March 28, 2011, 01:14:56 PM
Sabbath what is the team speak info?
http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,6.msg13792.html#msg13792 (http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,6.msg13792.html#msg13792)
No one's really on right now.

EDIT:
Wat I did? I do not remember ever ever ever seeing you on exiled. And all I do on exiled is troll now days.
I played with you a fair amount on Exiled.
Perp and GMR.
I never said anything bad happened there, but that I've seen the way you act and such (not saying that's bad necessarily).
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Mr. Franklin on March 28, 2011, 01:15:56 PM
Sabbath what is the team speak info?

Here's the link to the thread:
http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,6.0.html (http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,6.0.html)

Though i do not know if you are banned from it.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Seb on March 28, 2011, 01:17:59 PM
I am -1ing you because all you do is quote people saying how much they want Xexxar unbanned without addressing any other arguments ...

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt283/Rotedria/donbutthurt2.jpg)
(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt283/Rotedria/donbutthurt.jpg)

Yeah, those posts were undoubtably me quoting other people saying how much they want Xexxar unbanned without addressing any other arguments.


Anyways, I'm out before I end up with shit respect.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Sabb on March 28, 2011, 01:20:35 PM
(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt283/Rotedria/donbutthurt2.jpg)
(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt283/Rotedria/donbutthurt.jpg)

Yeah, those posts were undoubtably me quoting other people saying how much they want Xexxar unbanned without addressing any other arguments.


Anyways, I'm out before I end up with shit respect.
First one was just stupid.
Second one was an ignorant reply, implying that because you never see Don in ZS that he doesn't play enough.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Xexxar on March 28, 2011, 01:22:48 PM
This is about me, stop being dumb.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: » Magic « on March 28, 2011, 01:45:40 PM
Who gives a flying fuck about the ZS server? This thread wasn't made JUST for the ZS server, it was made for the community to choose if they wanted him back IN ALL SERVERS, NOT JUST ZS
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Xexxar on March 28, 2011, 01:51:11 PM
Who gives a flying fuck about the ZS server? This thread wasn't made JUST for the ZS server, it was made for the community to choose if they wanted him back IN ALL SERVERS, NOT JUST ZS

Although I prolly will only play zs.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Jman on March 28, 2011, 01:55:26 PM
All I can say is that the few times I've seen Xexxar in-game, he was autoaim, speedhacking, and threatening people.


Then again, it's been six months and he could have changed.

I don't know him too well, so I am going to stay neutral and not get into this one.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Xexxar on March 28, 2011, 01:57:58 PM
All I can say is that the few times I've seen Xexxar in-game, he was autoaim, speedhacking, and threatening people.


Then again, it's been six months and he could have changed.

I don't know him too well, so I am going to stay neutral and not get into this one.

Come to think of it.

I told ruban just to perma me because I was tired of rnd. Too which people got real derpy and it made me want to go out with a bang.

I prolly did hack right before I got permabanned with permission from ruban. cause he let me i do believe.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Cake Faice on March 28, 2011, 02:03:59 PM
Out of all the problems people have with xexxar and such, I never had a problem with him other than spamming everyone (including me) with his computer parts trying to make us jelly...

It would be nice if we could have some of our old members back...

But it appears in this thread...Xexxar said/done too many wrong things I guess.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Devie on March 28, 2011, 02:07:09 PM
Ohai. Like what Jim said on that chat - I was pretty upset and put in my input about it. But it feels great (sarcasm) that it was not even given a single piece of shit like most of the things in my life.

Remember the times we played on that map called Big city I think? We had so much fun there didn't we? It was us and "You're awesome" that played together.
I remember lolling for hours .. I had recordings of us having so much fun. I minged you on purpose for my own amusement back when we played on that big city map. Yet you didn't even rage at all towards me - just simply told me to quit several times... I still know there's the guy I first met in there somewhere.

When you started going downhill, I asked myself what the fuck happened to you man? You were so awesome. Fun to play with and fun to be around with.

Second chances? Yes I do believe in second chances.. If you ask me personally I wouldn't like you to be unbanned from the servers free to play on just like that.
No. It's not that easy. It shouldn't be.

After you have disrespected everyone in this community - especially coolz, I wouldn't mind you slowly climbing the ladder to earn our respect back towards you. If you're really the way you say you are now - then prove it. How? Since you're banned from the servers?

You're unbanned from the forums right? Why don't you start there. I know it's not much.
But going through this thread, I see there's already several holes that makes me uneasy.
You say you didn't do what coolz has proof you did.
Then later on the thread you slowly start to admit it.

Bottom line is: I wouldn't like it if you were unbanned from the servers because the things you did. But I do believe in second chances so I'd like to see you on the forums, redeeming yourself - proving to the community you are what you say you are now at least with your thoughts - the way you post, because I know posting on the forums doesn't prove shit but it helps even a tiny ass bit. Then maybe the community will like you again enough to give you a chance back to play on the servers.

Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Shawn on March 28, 2011, 02:23:32 PM
But I'm pretty sure that Krasher or hkill haven't been as persistent as Xexxar to be unbanned.

If memory serves right Krasher made a thread and everything to say he was sorry. but all it got him was an ip ban from the forums instead.


Anyways i've played with you in the past when i use to play zs like 24/7 you seemed nice then you just became a complete troll

as to my opinion on you getting unbanned i don't think you should just get unbanned. I'll have to agree with what Devie said prove to us that you have changed

Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: » Magic « on March 28, 2011, 02:29:18 PM
If memory serves right Krasher made a thread and everything to say he was sorry. but all it got him was an ip ban from the forums instead.


Anyways i've played with you in the past when i use to play zs like 24/7 you seemed nice then you just became a complete troll

as to my opinion on you getting unbanned i don't think you should just get unbanned. I'll have to agree with what Devie said prove to us that you have changed



He didn't ask for an unban, he just said he was sorry

And Ruben wouldn't be so stupid as to LET YOU HACK before he bans you
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Shawn on March 28, 2011, 02:33:41 PM
He didn't ask for an unban, he just said he was sorry

The point i was making was some peoples argument was "Unlike the others atleast hes trying to say sorry" and they used Krasher as a example so i was pointing out that Krasher did say he was sorry.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Xexxar on March 28, 2011, 02:53:10 PM
He didn't ask for an unban, he just said he was sorry

And Ruben wouldn't be so stupid as to LET YOU HACK before he bans you

Ruban and I used to be great friends. We shared hacking information and all that junk. He once let me use a program I developed to ddos wirebuild for a few seconds to see what the kids would say. Ruban actually did let me hack on zs before he permabanned me. He wanted to let me have some fun.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: » Magic « on March 28, 2011, 02:55:47 PM
Somebody get luben in here
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Xexxar on March 28, 2011, 02:57:43 PM
Somebody get luben in here

If he is honest he will tell you the same story.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Shawn on March 28, 2011, 02:59:14 PM
Ruban actually did let me hack on zs

Somehow i doubt this...


Somebody get luben in here

Nu he's going to chase after me with a knife he always does that with me in ttt :(

Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Sabb on March 28, 2011, 03:37:02 PM
How about we get back ontopic with our opinions on Xexxar coming back or not?
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Cheesicle on March 28, 2011, 05:23:04 PM
MY OPINION ON THIS:

Fidel Castro:
Attempted to overthrow the government in 1953, failed miserably. Instead of being executed or given a life-long prison sentence, as most traitors of countries are, he was jailed for a bit and sent into exile. He went to Mexico to plan another invasion. 3 years later in 1956, he tried again to overthrow the dictatorship, and once again failed miserably. He later came into power after the Cuban Revolution.

What I'm trying to say is that just because you give someone a second chance, doesn't mean they gonna follow rules.

Prolly cause I cannot understand what he is saying. And I haven't even heard his voice ever.

Also this tells me Xexxar discriminates people of different countries, as he dislikes yomo just because he can't understand his grammar, since he is from Japan.

So no.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: coolzeldad on March 28, 2011, 05:58:25 PM
Since when does RND allow hackers and people that threaten the owner and members of the community allowed to play?

Exactly, we never have and never will. There was a ban for around 6 months for this offense, and is still in effect.

I think that statement tends to neglect the trends of change.

What I'm trying to say is that just because you give someone a second chance, doesn't mean they gonna follow rules.

They also have an equal chance to follow the rules.

History is an important lesson, but it is not a documentation of the future.

There is no way for sure to know exactly how someone will act, however, following trends is a good place for assumption.

I opened this thread for Xexxar just like I would for anyone in a similar position.

I treat any one of you with the greatest respect I can and wish only the best opportunities to come your way.

It is my belief that anyone should have their ability to speak as long as it does not threaten the abilities of others.

Based off the disrespectful nature of his response to your reactions and the outright false testimony which he continues to go back on, I am not prepared under any circumstance to allow his position to change.

I would like to express the respect and appreciation I have for those who have come to defend their voice on this issue.

I will leave this thread open for any clarification or further comments.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Cheesicle on March 28, 2011, 06:04:39 PM
Yes I agree, however him disliking yomo solely because he could not understand him shows that he discriminates, which, in my case, turns my vote into a no.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: coolzeldad on March 28, 2011, 06:11:33 PM
Yes I agree, however him disliking yomo solely because he could not understand him shows that he discriminates, which, in my case, turns my vote into a no.

Yes that is true and another point to consider.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Xrain on March 28, 2011, 06:34:25 PM
This is a tough one.

On one hand, It's good when people like playing on the servers.

On the other it's not good when someone starts ruining the fun for everyone else.


You obviously had hindered other people's enjoyment since they have strong feelings about you not returning.

There are a few things that I find completely unacceptable in a gaming environment like this. Namely things that are obviously illegal.


#1 on that list is DDoS or DoS, people don't really understand quite how illegal that is, I mean all you have to do is type in an IP and hit a button and bam you can get all the revenge you could ask for.
How could something that easy be illegal?

Threatening to do it, is nearly just as bad. Even if you can't back up the threats, it's no different from walking into a store with your hand in your pocket, whether or not you actually have anything, and then starting to yell at the cashier that you want all the money.

It's still armed robbery.


And yes DDoSing in general is not quite as bad as holding up a convenience store, but it still has the possibility to cause just as much harm, just imagine for instance if a hospital uses only VoIP phones, and you mistakenly DDoS them shutting down their connection. That could get quite a few people killed.



On the other hand, I do understand what being a 12-19 year old is like, I was just there, It's easy to have your emotions get out of hand and to do something stupid. In-fact about 90% of the bans of well known forum members are because of this.

Eventually I hope everyone will realize when they are starting to get out of hand, and take a few steps back and get a hold of themselves.



But in the end, the actual risk anyone poses to the servers themselves, is only superficial.

The real damage is what happens to the people inside the community, which is why coolz opened this up for discussion.


I personally think, despite 6 months seeming like an eternity, the wounds are still too fresh for people to get over them.

If you really are wanting to make amends, keep at it, show us you want to play here again and don't let your impatience get the better of you. Betraying people's trust is a slow thing to heal.

Apologizing can never really erase something, but it sure as hell doesn't hurt.



To everyone else,

Yes Xexxar made quite the ass of himself before he got banned, but I'm quite certain there is sometime in your life where you have made a an ass of yourself when dealing with someone, and spoiled something and after a while you wished you could take it back.



To Magic,

I am kinda disappointed here, I understand defending your girlfriend, but holding a grudge against someone is awfully petty, no matter what they have done.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Deathie on March 28, 2011, 07:16:18 PM

The Prophet has spoken.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: ursus on March 28, 2011, 07:28:32 PM
Magic and everyone else who keeps holding onto grudges needs to get the fuck over it.

Go ahead and spew hate, -1 this post all you want, but it will only make you even less mature than you're already showing yourself to be.

Six months ago I called a girl a whore, and I'm friends with her now.

Everyone needs to realize that sometimes you can be wrong, you can admit at least a bit of kindness, and forgive someone.

Not just that, but none of you are looking at the situation from his viewpoint.

Xexxar is trying to come out with an apology, and you're all acting like the same fucktards you always do whenever you don't like someone. It's moments like this that are the reason I never wore the rNd tag in-game, because each of you give us a horrible reputation with things like this.

Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Cable on March 28, 2011, 07:30:43 PM
Alright boys,
feast is over. Now back into your cages.

Quite glad that this didn't turn out into a huge fight.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Xexxar on March 28, 2011, 07:39:27 PM
Yes that is true and another point to consider.

I didnt like him also cause he used to extremely difficult with me. He tended to abuse and just be a nussience on zs. That is why I think so.

And Xrain. I did stop myself before actually ddosing the server. I figured it would lead to more shit.

Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Carp on March 28, 2011, 07:48:02 PM
I am quite disappointed with teh community atm :|
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Mr. Franklin on March 28, 2011, 07:58:31 PM
This was a basic response from the community... well half of it was.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Cake Faice on March 28, 2011, 08:06:13 PM
I think Xrain and Gamefreak just summed everything up pretty well  ???
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Xexxar on March 28, 2011, 08:45:39 PM
And there is something I havent said.

I originally just wanted to leave rnd in butthurtness about knowing I will never get moderator. Too which everyone seemingly sort of trolled me about. At least to some degree. To which I thought it, if I am going to leave, I should leave with a bang. But thankfully I stopped myself before I did the act. You guys are some of the greatest players ever. Thoughtful, caring. If you don't wish for me to return that is fine, I don't blame you. But honestly. I really miss the community. I miss the days of pwning minges. The days were I could go on the server and just have fun and not worry about getting ddosed. (cough exiled cough). I want to let you all know that I am sorry. And I would very much enjoy the opportunity to game with you guys at least one last time. Maybe it will show you that I actually want to come back to the server.

Until then. Have fun.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Cheesicle on March 28, 2011, 09:41:52 PM
And there is something I havent said.

I originally just wanted to leave rnd in butthurtness about knowing I will never get moderator. Too which everyone seemingly sort of trolled me about. At least to some degree. To which I thought it, if I am going to leave, I should leave with a bang. But thankfully I stopped myself before I did the act. You guys are some of the greatest players ever. Thoughtful, caring. If you don't wish for me to return that is fine, I don't blame you. But honestly. I really miss the community. I miss the days of pwning minges. The days were I could go on the server and just have fun and not worry about getting ddosed. (cough exiled cough). I want to let you all know that I am sorry. And I would very much enjoy the opportunity to game with you guys at least one last time. Maybe it will show you that I actually want to come back to the server.

Until then. Have fun.

A genius once said "Forgive but don't forget"

KK 1 chance
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Moo on March 28, 2011, 09:45:34 PM
you guys do realize.. this isnt as big of a deals as most of you are making it...

i dislike his previous actions and all just like everyone else but if you look a little bit more into it...

HE CAN BE BANNED AGAIN if he does anything, just chill out... if he REALLY wants to play and keeps asking for an unban like he keeps doing, just give him a shot and see what happens...

everyones gonna be watching him
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: bipolardiz on March 28, 2011, 09:57:07 PM
And there is something I havent said.

I originally just wanted to leave rnd in butthurtness about knowing I will never get moderator. Too which everyone seemingly sort of trolled me about. At least to some degree. To which I thought it, if I am going to leave, I should leave with a bang. But thankfully I stopped myself before I did the act. You guys are some of the greatest players ever. Thoughtful, caring. If you don't wish for me to return that is fine, I don't blame you. But honestly. I really miss the community. I miss the days of pwning minges. The days were I could go on the server and just have fun and not worry about getting ddosed. (cough exiled cough). I want to let you all know that I am sorry. And I would very much enjoy the opportunity to game with you guys at least one last time. Maybe it will show you that I actually want to come back to the server.

Until then. Have fun.

>implying we arent ddosed lol.
Anyway He should be given that one chance!
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Xexxar on March 28, 2011, 09:58:39 PM
>implying we arent ddosed lol.
Anyway He should be given that one chance!

I heard about that. But their have been times were exiled has been ddosed by like 3 communities in a row.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: bipolardiz on March 28, 2011, 10:00:29 PM
I heard about that. But their have been times were exiled has been ddosed by like 3 communities in a row.

LOL well rnd is in its like 4th month of ddos day. :D Grab a drink and kick back with the homies! :D Also I think I remember you now, well more clearly. Back when I was a little no nothing newfag. I think I remember raging at you owning me in zs.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Xexxar on March 28, 2011, 10:18:06 PM
LOL well rnd is in its like 4th month of ddos day. :D Grab a drink and kick back with the homies! :D Also I think I remember you now, well more clearly. Back when I was a little no nothing newfag. I think I remember raging at you owning me in zs.


:D
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Prox on March 29, 2011, 06:53:23 AM
I remember seeing you on zs when I first joined this community and weren't known by anyone.
Your actions seemed to be okay, didn't really had any problems with you.

When reading the whole thread my opinions were changing and changing and after all I decided that you should get another chance.

I hope I'm not making the same mistake like I did with Prsn.


Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Shawn on March 29, 2011, 06:59:28 AM
I hope I'm not making the same mistake like I did with Prsn.

Mhmm we tried to warn you on that one but you wouldn't listen Lol

Also like i said before you're going to have to prove yourself to people... Perhaps temp unban him and see how it goes?

And Xex all you can do in the meantime is keep posting on the forums and try to get on everyones good side BUT don't suck up to them.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: » Magic « on March 29, 2011, 07:51:12 AM
If I called your wife an ugly bitch I'd like to see you not hold a grudge against me
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Shawn on March 29, 2011, 08:15:29 AM
If I called your wife an ugly bitch I'd like to see you not hold a grudge against me

I'll have to agree with Magic on this one... Its one thing to called somebody you play games with something but its entirely different level when you bring that persons loved ones into it when you don't even know them or anything.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Don on March 29, 2011, 08:35:02 AM
Magic and everyone else who keeps holding onto grudges needs to get the fuck over it.
Go ahead and spew hate, -1 this post all you want, but it will only make you even less mature than you're already showing yourself to be.
[...]
Xexxar is trying to come out with an apology, and you're all acting like the same fucktards you always do whenever you don't like someone. It's moments like this that are the reason I never wore the rNd tag in-game, because each of you give us a horrible reputation with things like this.
And this comes from the guy that asks all newcomers who the fuck they are, tells them to get out and -1s all their posts?
Haha!
Yeah, you create a much better picture of RND yourself, I must say.

Anyway, I just came back in here to quickly say the above.
I have stated my opinion on this matter and will not change my mind, I'm not going to rage with the fist of north star if he gets unbanned though ... Simply because I know he'll be banned again within a few months, just like all the other people that got a second chance before him.
If you manage to build your way up again and never do anything bad again - I stand corrected. I just don't believe in it.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Carp on March 29, 2011, 08:45:38 AM
And this comes from the guy that asks all newcomers who the fuck they are, tells them to get out and -1s all their posts?
Haha!
Yeah, you create a much better picture of RND yourself, I must say.

Anyway, I just came back in here to quickly say the above.
I have stated my opinion on this matter and will not change my mind, I'm not going to rage with the fist of north star if he gets unbanned though ... Simply because I know he'll be banned again within a few months, just like all the other people that got a second chance before him.

Examples?

I'm pretty sure he is the first one in this situation....
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Don on March 29, 2011, 08:46:41 AM
Examples?

I'm pretty sure he is the first one in this situation....
myppl8
Krasher, who didn't initially get permabanned for his hacks

Not directly in the same situation, just in a similar one of receiving additional chances after fucking up majorly.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Mr. Franklin on March 29, 2011, 09:31:03 AM
Coolz said already that he will not be unbanned for now, from his post above. So why are we still arguing about it? post count?
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: » Magic « on March 29, 2011, 09:34:05 AM
Am I allowed to lock then?
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Mr. Franklin on March 29, 2011, 09:46:27 AM
Am I allowed to lock then?

Ask coolz for that. He said he will leave it open for a few
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: bipolardiz on March 29, 2011, 10:19:31 AM
If I called your wife an ugly bitch I'd like to see you not hold a grudge against me

Yeah I gotta agree there. Call me anything but not my girl! >:|
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Xrain on March 29, 2011, 10:43:16 AM
If I called your wife an ugly bitch I'd like to see you not hold a grudge against me

Easy, If someone did that I'd punch them in the face, then continue on my way, honor resolved, no need to do something teenage girls do.

If this was over the internet, I wouldn't even bother doing anything, since none has any idea of what my family looks like, and all they are is just trying to get a rise out of me.

A grudge isn't something that you do because someone infringed upon your loved ones, a grudge is something you do because your insecure and someone popped your ego balloon.


Like I said, deal with the situation when it rears its head, then move on. Don't waste your time on such things.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: » Magic « on March 29, 2011, 11:37:52 AM
Easy, If someone did that I'd punch them in the face, then continue on my way, honor resolved, no need to do something teenage girls do.

If this was over the internet, I wouldn't even bother doing anything, since none has any idea of what my family looks like, and all they are is just trying to get a rise out of me.

A grudge isn't something that you do because someone infringed upon your loved ones, a grudge is something you do because your insecure and someone popped your ego balloon.


Like I said, deal with the situation when it rears its head, then move on. Don't waste your time on such things.

But I can't punch him in the face

Annddd he happened to comment on the picture

SO grudge stays held

Whatever, Give him one chance
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Sabb on March 29, 2011, 12:32:02 PM
Before the thread is locked I just wanted to clear something up.
For Xexxar and anyone else that has possibly come to this conclusion based on my posts in this thread.
I do not hold a grudge against Xexxar. I don't want Xexxar to stay banned because I dislike him or he did something to me or something similar.
As I said before, I actually had a lot of fun with Xexxar a long time ago.
I just don't think that he's ready to be unbanned, because of his personality. I don't mean that he's some huge asshat to everyone or something, I don't really know how else to explain it, but I just think that similar problems that happened before would repeat itself. I do also understand that it's really not that big of a deal, but the community (maybe I'm a part of this too, I'm not saying that I'm not) blows stuff out of proportion when stuff like this happens. What I mean by this, is that everyone argues like hell well something along these lines happens, and half the community ends up wanting to slit each others' throats. And I might be a bit of a hypocrite for saying so, but that's what always happens.
And before anyone mentions it, I know coolz isn't unbanning him and I'm not trying to start up an argument again, I'm just trying to explain that I don't hate/ hold grudges against Xexxar.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: » Magic « on March 29, 2011, 12:46:03 PM
Nobody said you did
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Sabb on March 29, 2011, 12:47:22 PM
Nobody said you did
Yes I know, but I also know most the people who are disagreeing with me are probably thinking so.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: » Magic « on March 29, 2011, 12:47:42 PM
Yes I know, but I also know most the people who are disagreeing with me are probably thinking so.

Hmm lol
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Carp on March 29, 2011, 06:20:36 PM
Yep nice to clear that up sab, but its just annoying to see people changing their opinions on the subject. I have seen three people change their opinions just because Gamefreak posted his appeal at the exact same time.

Honestly I'm not trying to make anybody mad, I just like a good debate. I just think you guys are blowing this out of proportion, even though he isn't getting unbanned at the moment, I hope if he is persistent he will in the near future.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Mr. Franklin on March 29, 2011, 06:30:51 PM
Now i think is a good idea to close it. Based on opinion of course.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Sabb on March 30, 2011, 05:51:14 PM
Yep nice to clear that up sab, but its just annoying to see people changing their opinions on the subject. I have seen three people change their opinions just because Gamefreak posted his appeal at the exact same time.

Honestly I'm not trying to make anybody mad, I just like a good debate. I just think you guys are blowing this out of proportion, even though he isn't getting unbanned at the moment, I hope if he is persistent he will in the near future.
TBH I wouldn't mind Xexxar coming back. I just don't think he should quite yet.
He is fun and amusing, but I still see some characteristics in him I'm not too fond of.

I think within another month or few Xexxar should be able to come back, but being watched of course.
And if history does repeat itself, the worst that could come out of it is Xexxar being banned again and having another RND "civil war", which I'll just hope people will get over, and I'll just stay out of.

GL getting unbanned in the future Xexxar, just continue showing an interest/effort.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: PhysicX M.D. on March 31, 2011, 06:13:34 AM
Give Xexxar a chance even though I never see him at all before.He just want to play on rnd zs.If he ever do something so idiotic or hacking than just ban him permanent.Just give him a chance.Forget The past,it's over and it's present and future we are talking about.So I Say,give him a chance.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: » Magic « on March 31, 2011, 09:27:39 AM
Give Xexxar a chance even though I never see him at all before.He just want to play on rnd zs.If he ever do something so idiotic or hacking than just ban him permanent.Just give him a chance.Forget The past,it's over and it's present and future we are talking about.So I Say,give him a chance.

Who the fuck are you
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: [Valor]iPounce on March 31, 2011, 09:36:43 AM
Who the fuck are you
Westwind, detoxed.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Xexxar on March 31, 2011, 04:05:10 PM
Just want to point out I will not remain active on the forums. I never did and I am not going to.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Tiger Guy on March 31, 2011, 04:18:17 PM
I say give him a chance, but keep him to a small leash. One mistake and bye bye.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: ursus on March 31, 2011, 04:22:28 PM
Just want to point out I will not remain active on the forums. I never did and I am not going to.

just so there isn't an imminent flame war resulting from this

Quote from: coolzeldad
no

ingame rank not determined by forum rank
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: Cheesicle on March 31, 2011, 05:31:35 PM
Westwind, detoxed.

Or, mokey, his most recent name, AssDuff
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: [Valor]iPounce on March 31, 2011, 09:15:56 PM
Or, mokey, his most recent name, AssDuff
Nigra y u said mah old name......

And yeah, his old name was westwind when we were new to zs.
Title: Re: Xexxar: Community Response
Post by: PhysicX M.D. on April 01, 2011, 08:58:26 AM
lololol,it's not about my name we are talking here.