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Re: F.P.S. Russian: Ghosting? (Yes) T Hacks? (Maybe)
« Reply #30 on: October 28, 2011, 12:40:50 PM »
Like 30 post's long?

Damn, he should write a book about it.


LOL!! Stalker  ???

I am writing a book 40 000 words complete already  8)

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Re: F.P.S. Russian: Ghosting? (Yes) T Hacks? (Maybe)
« Reply #31 on: October 28, 2011, 12:44:05 PM »

LOL!! Stalker  ???

I am writing a book 40 000 words complete already  8)

Wow. >:L

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Re: F.P.S. Russian: Ghosting? (Yes) T Hacks? (Maybe)
« Reply #32 on: October 28, 2011, 01:43:36 PM »
Right now I'm at school, so I'm unable to give any long accusations.
So until then, later

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« Reply #33 on: October 28, 2011, 02:40:25 PM »
Just by reading his first replies make me want to +1 this.

I'm pretty sure he is ghosting as he had multiple reports, also, after kicking an AFK, he told me that I clearly am new to the rules, and the person was not AFK, but rather karma farming...

Then he complained instead for kicking for reason "AFK" I should kick for reason "Karma Farming" even though there was no proof of him doing so.

The videos seem to contain pretty good proof,  :thumbsup: to this.




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Re: F.P.S. Russian: Ghosting? (Yes) T Hacks? (Maybe)
« Reply #34 on: October 28, 2011, 02:59:17 PM »

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« Reply #35 on: October 28, 2011, 04:44:35 PM »
Because Russian has been reported for ghosting again, anyone else who was suspected of ghosting with him is sort of brought into this whole thing.



yeah but i am no where in the evidence. you can ask tezuni.

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Re: F.P.S. Russian: Ghosting? (Yes) T Hacks? (Maybe)
« Reply #36 on: October 28, 2011, 06:03:52 PM »
yeah but i am no where in the evidence. you can ask tezuni.

It's not about you being in the evidence, it's about you being reported with Russian about ghosting.
This doesn't mean you will recieve the same punishment , or that you will even recieve a punishment.
I was just adding in that you are sort of brought back in (as well as anyone else who has been suspected of ghosting w/ Russian).
Sorry for the misunderstanding.

@Russian

You say you play "smart" and by paying attention to people's habit's and such.
So in saying this, can you tell me the way you see how I play? (habits, tolerance level with people following me, how much evidence I kill for, etc)
Though this won't prove much (proof wise!), it will let me understand a few things.

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Re: F.P.S. Russian: Ghosting? (Yes) T Hacks? (Maybe)
« Reply #37 on: October 28, 2011, 08:53:22 PM »

@Russian

You say you play "smart" and by paying attention to people's habit's and such.
So in saying this, can you tell me the way you see how I play? (habits, tolerance level with people following me, how much evidence I kill for, etc)
Though this won't prove much (proof wise!), it will let me understand a few things.

Hahaha yeh with you it be a bit hard because you do not play as often as other players. However, I was able to pick up on some things which strongly show me the recognition pattern of you lying. When you play you use your microphone  a lot and that is one of the biggest things that gives away a Traitor. So shall we begin Dr Axule?

When you are a T:

1.Your behaviour  become more sarcastic or even aggressive if someone starts grilling you with questions and when someone persist in asking you questions about that person being dead that you followed around which the person caught a glimpse of.

2. You change the pattern of events that occurred after a body is found that you were last seen near,  so when you are  telling a lie you will usually make up events  as someone starts asking around "Wasn't it Axule who was around him last?". This usually results  in a significant change in your voice your speed becomes much slower then usual and you pause many times while talking in order to find the next rational thing which to say.

3.Your use of language changes the most and that is another thing that gives you away like an open book. Often your grammar is  more poor then usual  and your explanations are longer then usual. In a conversation about a dead body you use words like see, sense when? and hear a lot that  that makes it delightful for me cause I just shoot you because that gives you away. Your punctuality also changes instead of saying didn't or don't you say the words fully as in did not and do not which shows a pattern of anxiety in your voice which lowers significantly and lacks more assertiveness.

4. Your body language is another funny thing even though people are not aware Axule and I guarantee you that. The microphone can pick up a lot of things  which people think is not there. For example one time when I asked you if you killed 2 people you might not have noticed, but when you replied your microphone picked up a  lot of noise. That was caused by you moving around a lot more then usual and who would not after killing couple innos your adrenalin also excitement would kick in. This causes  frequent and constant change in  position that you are sitting in while you're being unable to settle down cause of your adrenalin bodies response.

5. When you are next to a body and someone ID's it then starts asking you why you killed them. Your voice has a higher pitch which either means you are smirking try saying "Im not lying" with a smirk on your face and then without trust me you will see the difference in the tone. Also another cause is your adrenaline kicking  in and you can not  wait to take this vigilant kid out as quick as possible.

Now your tolerance level of people following you is quiet hard to put in but I will try, when a person follows you around  and vanishes then pops up again following you. Like me you start grilling them  with questions as well and shoot them if something seems of at times you are too late and get stabbed. Well what makes it more interesting you seem to be doing a recognition pattern of their answers as well. Which makes me ask this question: LOL!!! Are you studying psychology? and What one to be exact?


When you are innocent you tend to have a frequently levelled monotone which stay perfectly balanced and there is nothing off about it. So in a more modern term you sound as chilled back as a cucumber.  You also follow around lower karma players which makes me think in a way you have a protective instinct that makes you be around them a lot. Because I believe that you know of  most Ts going  for the weaker links first before they attack a higher karma group last. When a person has low health and you ask them questions if something seems off you shoot them 90% of the time so you are a constant risk taker.

Now when you are a T oh baby the fun begins you take away the rational thinking of taking out low karma first. You Axule my friend love a challenge which makes it more easier to figure you out. You kill of the most vigilant and  lead away the strongest players first and take them out one by one while leaving the weak to panic and chaos. You then constantly  show up for live checks quickly so no one suspects you, you make it look like you been around the group this whole time moving in and out undetected. "The wolf amongst sheep" that is what they call it I believe.

Anyway I am pretty sure that if you are doing psychology you are aware of the few things I explained above. I hope that helped to clear up a  few things that you were wondering about enjoy.


Thus far my skills have been known to be unethical and some what insane, but meh whatever gets the job done.



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Re: F.P.S. Russian: Ghosting? (Yes) T Hacks? (Maybe)
« Reply #38 on: October 28, 2011, 09:06:44 PM »
Just by reading his first replies make me want to +1 this.

I'm pretty sure he is ghosting as he had multiple reports, also, after kicking an AFK, he told me that I clearly am new to the rules, and the person was not AFK, but rather karma farming...

Then he complained instead for kicking for reason "AFK" I should kick for reason "Karma Farming" even though there was no proof of him doing so.

The videos seem to contain pretty good proof,  :thumbsup: to this.

The person was Karma farming because:

1. They did not give notice of going AFK which lasted for 5 rounds. Kermit has been known to do this constantly when his karma hits below 500 digit.

2. Kermit was  never moved to the spectator team which also means that some time he moved his mouse not to be moved to spectator.

So clearly he was  Karma Farming and also yes I complained because saying AFK is not the best reason to kick never seen a VIP do such a thing. Which I was asking you as to why you said AFK and not Karma Farming.

« Last Edit: October 28, 2011, 09:08:29 PM by F.P.S Russian »

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Re: F.P.S. Russian: Ghosting? (Yes) T Hacks? (Maybe)
« Reply #39 on: October 28, 2011, 09:37:29 PM »
Also question for Tezuni why does the recording has crucial bits missing which show me not ghosting?  Cause clearly the video has been edited that show bits missing for example Rawshaw following us for a long time and me seeing Kermit around a guy that was later killed. So I would like to state that for some reason the video is missing crucial evidence of me not ghosting. Thus I demand to have a legit statement from Tezuni as to why this?

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Re: F.P.S. Russian: Ghosting? (Yes) T Hacks? (Maybe)
« Reply #40 on: October 29, 2011, 12:37:10 AM »
Russian I'm not bothering to read your triple post the video gives great reason to doubt you. Many thanks Tez for supplying reasonable proof and sorry for doubting your instincts Axule giant  :thumbsup: from me. As to proof the first two scenes were proof enough that you knew before anyone died and even when the person's name was hidden from your possible view. Then cases of karma rdm as well. I'm half way through the video and you've proven disregard for warnings by others as well as public disregard for rules.

Sorry for the edit but Russian my friend the psychology method you explained IS NOT 100% accurate and does not let you know who it is 10 seconds into the game or see through walls three abilities you seem to have. Since I know personally what you ghosting looks like I know that  this is not the case but beyond a doubt you have been caught. So either admit to your sins and earn leniency or face your punishment.
« Last Edit: October 29, 2011, 10:04:17 AM by Dark Pacifist »
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Re: F.P.S. Russian: Ghosting? (Yes) T Hacks? (Maybe)
« Reply #41 on: October 29, 2011, 03:26:15 AM »
-snip-

To be honest, I wasn't expecting to know everything.
Usually, I don't really care about being T, and therefore I'll have fun and play with people, trying to make it seem traitorous when I am, just to see what will happen.

What I was wanting though is for you to tell me how low my tolerance level is, meaning I'd kill anyone for following me after their warnings.
Also meaning I would kill for small reasons, but which are allowable.

What I'm trying to get at is an event that happened when I last played awhile ago.

Basically,
man said he'd rdm player next round
I said if you do, I'll kill you
Round starts, I happen to be T
Man goes ahead and kills said player
Said player was innocent
No one around did anything
I say alright, you're dead
*bang, kill him, Russian starts calling me out

Forgive the unorganized and nasty grammer, but that's basically it.

What I was trying to say is if you're so keen on knowing people's habits and ways, why did you call me out for killing someone (who was inno and killed an inno) even after I said I would before the round even started.
-for one, I killed someone who killed an inno
-two, I said I was going to kill him if he killed said player
-three, even if I said I wasn't going to, you should have known that I would have killed him.

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Re: F.P.S. Russian: Ghosting? (Yes) T Hacks? (Maybe)
« Reply #42 on: October 29, 2011, 06:13:13 AM »


What I was trying to say is if you're so keen on knowing people's habits and ways, why did you call me out for killing someone (who was inno and killed an inno) even after I said I would before the round even started.
-for one, I killed someone who killed an inno
-two, I said I was going to kill him if he killed said player
-three, even if I said I wasn't going to, you should have known that I would have killed him.

Alright I play some ball with ya  8)

1. The guy that killed the inno which was inno has been known for on and off rdm.

2. When he killed him you started talking in a very excited monotone which showed that your adrenalin kicked in. Moments later we heard a shot same guy dead shot by yours truly Axule.

3. What gave you away is your voice and the willingness to execute even though you were aware that the guy you just killed was a known rdmer. Thus a theory of your voice and then the following action proved you were a T. I believe after that you started saying I was ghosting was that not the correct event taking place?  ;)

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Re: F.P.S. Russian: Ghosting? (Yes) T Hacks? (Maybe)
« Reply #43 on: October 29, 2011, 09:45:04 AM »
There's no place for people like Russian in this community.

+1

It should be self-explanatory.

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Re: F.P.S. Russian: Ghosting? (Yes) T Hacks? (Maybe)
« Reply #44 on: October 30, 2011, 01:12:48 AM »
Alright I play some ball with ya  8)

1. The guy that killed the inno which was inno has been known for on and off rdm.

2. When he killed him you started talking in a very excited monotone which showed that your adrenalin kicked in. Moments later we heard a shot same guy dead shot by yours truly Axule.

3. What gave you away is your voice and the willingness to execute even though you were aware that the guy you just killed was a known rdmer. Thus a theory of your voice and then the following action proved you were a T. I believe after that you started saying I was ghosting was that not the correct event taking place?  ;)

Yeah, but that's the thing though. If you know I have such a low tolerance level, you would have known I would have killed that dude even if I wasn't T. I mean come on, he killed someone with high karma, and he already had around 700. I wouldn't have lost more than 2-300?

That's what set me off and made me blow my cover saying you were ghosting.
In all honesty, I would have killed that guy even if I was Innocent.