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TTT: Traitor Testers..... why?
Travelsonic:
--- Quote from: Sabb on August 05, 2011, 01:13:16 PM ---...because if the person is refusing to be tested they obviously seem suspicious
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Depends....
--- Quote from: Sabb on August 05, 2011, 01:13:16 PM ---...so they are killing that person based on that suspicion. In other words, I don't really consider it RDM.
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How the hell would that NOT be RDMing if [key word IF] you have a guy getting killed just because they refuse to go into the traitor tester, without any evidence beyond that, at most you'd be able to deduce the person as suspicious if all you had to go on was that he/she refused to go into the tester.
--- Quote from: Sabb on August 05, 2011, 01:13:16 PM ---Plus the person that doesn't want to go into the traitor tester could just be trying to get killed by the detective, so keeping that considered, not many people even kill for that anyways. (not from what I've seen at least)
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Depends on the group of people you'd play with, which also depends on time of day/night you play I guess.
You'd have to keep all possibilities open I guess - I mean, lately we've seen it all, RDMers, aimbotters, ghosting, RDMing DETECTIVES, etc.
Sabb:
--- Quote from: Travelsonic on August 05, 2011, 01:33:37 PM ---Depends....
How the hell would that NOT be RDMing if [key word IF] you have a guy getting killed just because they refuse to go into the traitor tester, without any evidence beyond that, at most you'd be able to deduce the person as suspicious if all you had to go on was that he/she refused to go into the tester.
Depends on the group of people you'd play with, which also depends on time of day/night you play I guess.
You'd have to keep all possibilities open I guess - I mean, lately we've seen it all, RDMers, aimbotters, ghosting, RDMing DETECTIVES, etc.
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RDM = "RANDOM death match".
Not "no proof deathmatch".
When someone refuses to be tested to be a traitor or not, imo, it's enough to kill the person if they want to give the risk.
Travelsonic:
--- Quote from: Sabb on August 05, 2011, 01:37:32 PM ---RDM = "RANDOM death match".
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And what isn't random about shooting-to-kill somebody who at most has only been proven suspicious, with nothing else to go on than refusing to be tested?
Keep in mind throughout the discussion, my focus has shifted to being far far far less about traitor testers existing in maps, if it was about that at ALL, but how the are used, if they are overused, used appropriately, etc, in case anybody thinks I'm arguing for any kind of traitor tester abolition here [which I'm not - or at least am not trying to].
Sabb:
--- Quote from: Travelsonic on August 05, 2011, 01:47:01 PM ---And what isn't random about shooting-to-kill somebody who at most has only been proven suspicious, with nothing else to go on than refusing to be tested?
Keep in mind throughout the discussion, my focus has shifted to being far far far less about traitor testers existing in maps, if it was about that at ALL, but how the are used, if they are overused, used appropriately, etc, in case anybody thinks I'm arguing for any kind of traitor tester abolition here [which I'm not - or at least am not trying to].
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I still don't consider it RDM.
cogsandspigots:
--- Quote from: Sabb on August 05, 2011, 01:53:19 PM ---I still don't consider it RDM.
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RDM: Not allowed
No-proof: Allowed.
What the difference is is this:
RDM is killing without ANY reason whatsoever.
No-proof is killing someone you believe is traitor, even without solid proof.
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